Working the Steps?

Hello and welcome to The Path Forward. My name is Goldie and I am the forum's lead moderator. I am available to assist you with the 6 Steps of recovery from a relationship with a Narcissist. This process is often painful and many are left with unanswered questions and a sense of "What just hit me?" "How can I be feeling this badly when I was "so loved" in the beginning?" and "How can I get my life back on track and recover from this confusing, painful ordeal?"

You must remember you have done nothing wrong, but believe in the good nature of another person. Unfortunately, this person has shown their true colors and you are now left with many questions. This section of the forum is devoted to answering your questions because we know you have many.

Here we will talk about what it means to be "Working the Steps" and the different recovery tools we find helpful in healing from a relationship with a Narcissist. Allowing yourself to process and feel your emotions through creative outlets as well as writing your "Goodbye Letter" are important aspects of the 6 Step Recovery process we believe with help you on the path forward. Please post your questions here and I will respond. Many of the questions which you have will also be helpful to other members. We are glad you found our community of support and can assure you that being here is the first step on the Path Forward.

Members, submit your question to Goldie!

No contact with children

Hi... I'm new to this site and think its an awesome resource to help understand and deal with these little trolls. I share custody of my daughter with my ex..who happens to be a Narcissist of the highest order. It would be easy for me to go no contact and never look back but I have to leave some room for communication for my daughters' sake. But he does these "hit and run" scenarios. He will email and ask if he can do something with her... I agree and ask what time.. then he abruptly says something like, "I'm going to NY..see ya". So there I am left with a dangling child..

What if there was never any hovering

When I broke up with the NARC as I think and surely know he was, he accepted everything soooo cooly. There was no sign of emotion whether it be anger, sadness. He just continued on his merry way. He did not fight about our property settlement, although he got a house out of it. When I do run into him - it is weird. It is as if I never had the last 10 years with him. I broke it off with him in December 2011 because of his verbal abuse and three years of continual D & D. Prior to buying a house with me you could not have got a more loving partner. He said OK and that was it. Although he did stay in the house for three weeks after that, kissing me on the forehead everyday before he went to work etc. It was like we went from full on lovers, friends to acquaintenances.

How can they be so unfeeling towards me after all I have done for them?

"I keep trying to understand how someone can have no remorse, no regret, no empathy, no kindness, no guilt, nothing. I cannot wrap my head around it and I keep trying to empathize with him."

Answer: 

This is EXACTLY what they are counting on you thinking

Substitute the word Narcissist with Conman, manipulator, player, taker, user, parasite. Perhaps this helps. You are still looking a him as if he is YOU. They are NOT like us. They do not think, feel, or behave as we do. You are trying to understand him through your lens. This will never work or happen. This will continue to keep you stuck.

The conman seeks out supply who are empaths and struggle to wrap their brains around what is being done to them by the conman.

The conman wants to use you and take from you and will create false persona's in order to get into your good graces and make YOU THINK they are just like you. They mirror back to you YOUR hopes and dreams. They give you what they think you want in the beginning in order to set up their target fot the CON.

Once they have you where THEY want you, they no longer need to try so hard. They have you thinking a certain way now and they can take whatever they want from you.

By the time YOU wake up and realize that you are the target of a con....

Either everything you have is gone; or they are gone.

They will keep this up for YEARS if YOU allow them to do so.

The only way to get this, is to STOP looking at them through your eyes, your lens and look at them for the 2 bit conmen that they are..

This may not be what you would do because you are not a con artist, yet, this is what THEY are and what THEY do.

This is NOT about understanding what YOU would do; this is about understand what THEY ARE DOING right in front of face.

ONce you see this, then you begin to realize that YOU do not need or want a blatant predator in YOUR life.

HE IS NOT who YOU thought he was, never was, and never will be.

YOU are the GOOD one; HE IS NOT.

YOU cannot change a bad person into a good one.

They are who and what they are.

This is no reflection on you, they were this way long before you came along and they will be this way long after you are gone.

THE TRUTH of who and what they are, WILL SET YOU FREE.

God bless,
Goldie

Does the Narc View No Contact as Giving You The Silent Treatment

my NARC was good at giving me the silent treatment if we had had a disagreement about something (and of course any disagreement brought about relationship ending threats). His behaviour has been so erratic and compulsive/impulsive (for example he sends me an email telling me he wants no contact whatsoever for a period of time, wants no type of relationship with me and will exercise his options to date others (he never cheated on my cause of his own sexual performance anxiety issues). So I read this email, feel totally devastated by it but I do not reply. He has said no contact. The next day, I get a text from him saying "hope you are ok, I didn't hear back from you re the email I sent" - WTF? Of course I engage back into the Ping Pong game and start the spin cycle all over again.

Knowing for sure?

Hi goldie,

Can I venture a guess and be confident that the N won't return?

I'd like to base my confidence on the fact that I know he's a passive coward who hides from confrontation and negative criticism and has a habit of hiding. But so far everything I've read points to the fact that they all do eventually make a guest appearance at some point.

How to keep from Contacting him......

Hi Goldie: I am really having a tough time with the NC. I feel like I am going through some kind of hellish withdrawal and it has only been two days. The last contact was on Saturday morning when he showed up at my door (this after threatening to take legal action against me in an email he sent on Thursday night...I didn't respond to that one). On Saturday morning he showed up and rang the doorbell incessantly until I answered.

am i the only one?

Today im having a bad day... ive been ruminating about the past and have been tempted to contact some of his ex on fb to find out what actually happened and i suppose to get clarity.. did he do the same to them? i know this possibly isnt a good idea but i do feel very tempted!!! HELP ...x