when will the obsession go away

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#1 Oct 22 - 4PM
Victim-no-more
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when will the obsession go away

Im new here. I need some reassurance. My friends dont understand why I can think of nothing else but this loser or why I can't move on. My narcissist discarded me 6mo ago after I told him he needed to go into drug rehab. I told him I couldnt keep enabling him and the next thing I knew he wouldn't speak to me or acknowledge a text or phone call. I was a basket case. I begged, pleaded,but he wouldnt respond. I finally texted him, told him I hated his guts and never to contact me again. I was finished this time. I guess he sensed it. Soon after he would call my phone,let it ering once and hang up.....or send a text that was blank. He eventually started leaving voice mails acting like nothing had ever happened. I tried my best to ignore them. The more I ignored the more desperate he became...sent me pictures of hearts, texts 4saying I love you. Teddy bear pictures....i could not believe this he never showed any lovey dovey feelings before. But I had never ignored him before either. I caved and responded. I said I was very hurt and angry and that I just "needed time to cool off" ughhhh, I see now that was supply! This was 5 days ago. Havent heard another peep. I suppose he thought fine,she won't talk to me then I will show her and disappear! His favorite weapon is the silent treatment, acting as if I do not exist. He never insults me or rants,its Always the silent treatment. What is he thinking right now? Will he reappear? Im so sick of this cycle but I feel like I am addicted to him. How can I love someone who cares nothing for me? Ive always gone running back after every discard...i know he must wonder why I didnt this time. I need to be strong but I miss this idiot. Im torn up and cant think of anything but him. This has been going on for 2yrs now. I feel like I still love him,how sick I am. Has he gone away now or will he come back to try to finish me off? im exhausted and hurting.

Oct 24 - 12PM
badjer
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I'm past the 1 year break up...

…and it still gets to me every single day. The tears have stopped, the crazy fog has lifted considerably, but I feel g=haunted by the notion that (a) I was never loved, (B) I allowed myself to be treated to badly by somebody whom I loved so much and ©he is just getting on with his life without a backwards glance. In reality, these people are deeply, deeply selfish and with a crucial inability to empathise. I keep having to say to myself (and you should too) it was NOT me. It was not. No man worth his salt swears at a woman and then gives her the silent treatment for 3 days until SHE goes to HIM. No real man makes condescending remarks while she is crying in the street and sneers at her when she is wiping away tears. No real, caring person does that. I look back now and I see that my ex was just a selfish, stupid little boy who strangled the life out of what he had, because he never felt truly deserving of it. He wanted what another man had, but then when he had it and he saw I had backbone, he discarded before he had it done to him. It still pains me and makes me raw with anger that I let him do that. It bites that I was such a whimpering, snivelling wreck that I went back and gratefully lapped up his crumbs of attention after 5 months of him sulking and being "too scared" to contact me. I went back after he told me (with a grin) he had thrown away a cherished gift. What sort of person does that? I can tell you. A person who is so overly involved with the immediacy of their own emotions, in the moment, that they have no thought, care or concern for the consequences of their actions and the feelings of others. I want you one minute, I don't the next. You're heavy on earth, now I hate you, go away. There is no consistency, they are almost bipolar. The only thing they want is to know they have ultimate control and that they can click their fingers - and you go back. When you take that control from them and choose not to play any more - that is when the pain really sets in for them and they discard for the last time. I feel anguished by my inability and failure to get him to see what he did. I feel as if I played right into his hands at the end and I even said "I have no regrets. Sorry for ever hurting you." I apologised to HIM when he finally dumped me. Crazy, huh? It makes me sick to the stomach that he has got away with it, that I was in it to get validation out of him, a sincere apology, a true showing of care and concern for me and for what he had done. I needed that so badly. I needed - yes, I admit it - to punish him and make him squirm for the months that he kept me twisting on a line. And he sensed it and what did he do? walked. "I have too many doubts. The same thing could happen (you could dump me again) in 6 months. I'm scared." He bottled it citing "doubts" and that we had lost our spark. After saying staying friends would be too hard. He toyed with me long enough, came back long enough, opened that can of worms just enough….to kick me in the teeth one final time. That BITES and is the most bitter pill I have ever had to swallow. On the one hand I want one last chance to tear him to shreds, but that would be too much for him - he would know I still cared. I know the best thing is total radio silence - it shows strength and courage and that I don't need him. But the anger and rage I feel is at the unfairness of it all. Why did he come back that final time telling me we were "amazing" only to ditch me so soon again? Why didn't he swallow his pride and show some desire to mend the wounds? Why did he not care enough to stay around and heal the wounds? Why did he leave me screaming silently to be heard? It feels like I have never been heard. I know deep down he knows he killed it off. He had a good thing and he killed it off. His dumping me in the end was all he could do to save face because it was inevitable that I would have found the courage to ditch him again. I know this. But nit's this sense of "HOW DARE HE" do this to me and discard me AGAIN, like I am and was nothing to him. After messing in my marriage for nearly 2 years. It makes me boil with anger. I am just waiting for the rage to pass now. Peace to all xxxxxxxxxx
Oct 24 - 6PM (Reply to #24)
Victim-no-more
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Wow, you definitely know

Wow, you definitely know exactly what I am feeling. Thank you.
Oct 24 - 1PM (Reply to #23)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Really a great and insightful

Really a great and insightful post. When the xN and I split, we had a soft spot moment in the kitchen the night before I moved out. We were actually hugging (if you had any clue how vicious I was to him in the end, you'd be stunned there was any physical contact at that point)...and he asked softly..."we're not fixing anything, right?"...even then, after all I said to him and trust me, there were some real crushing verbal blows delivered to him, he still wanted supply from me. I didn't even look at him...said as I was hugging him..."no, we're not fixing anything...there is no 'we' and there never was...which is why I am leaving this life and you behind". In that moment, my quest for answers and truth began. Without him. And if I had stayed, if I had remained on that tilt-a-whirl with him, I'd be even more miserable and still as clueless as I was when I met him. How does one 'fix' nothing, after all?
Oct 22 - 11PM
foreverfun1
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i think we go back because we

i think we go back because we are seeking some sort of justice. also we want to prove to them that we are good and worthy of love and respect. this is a big draw when someone who loved us stops for no reason. we want them to treat us fairly and acknowledge that we are valuable.i'm not sure why this is so important that we would compromise ourselves just to make this point but i guess it is. the sad thing is, no matter how perfect we are we will always fall off the pedestal again because no one can ever live up to their expectations. they are unrealistic and live in a fantasy land.
Oct 24 - 3PM (Reply to #20)
badjer
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Yes yes and yes. I found

Yes yes and yes. I found myself chasing his approval and love and validation within the relationship before it ended. I was questioning what I was doing wrong suddenly to turn him and for him to play games and ignore my texts. I see now it was all his yo-yoing to keep me on the line, to keep me keen, to put pressure on me to leave my marriage. And when it all finally imploded and I walked….what better, sweeter revenge for him than to wait until I have instigated divorce proceedings, to know I am on the market, before suddenly turning around and saying "nah, don't want you now. I may have wanted you for 18 months while you were married and treated you like shit but….I don't want it now." Sweet revenge for him, huh? That's not love. That is power and spite. I wish and hope and pray he gets his just desserts and then he will know EXACTLY how it feels. If the coward ever fucking dares to expose himself to any kind of pain. But then - that takes courage - and these cowards have anything but courage.
Oct 24 - 6PM (Reply to #21)
Susan32
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I KNOW he lacks courage...

And I've taunted him for it! The ex-Psych used to bully me, but I guess my narcissistic injuries were like the schoolyard "go crying to your Mommy, waah, waah, waah." He's coward... and he's gotten mocked for it. Publicly. And BY ME. He can't even hide in his cowardice, because he is mocked for his cowardice. The ex-Psych prof WANTED to be my friend (well, he pulled that act)... but when I tried to get emotionally closer to him my senior year... he suddenly didn't want it. I got publicly humiliated for it. A smear campaign in which he claimed that I was making unwanted sexual advances on him. Now, his father studies animal behavior... and this is something the ex-P should know, when a predator smells fear, they ATTACK. A dog is MORE likely to attack you if they know you're afraid. Really. The ex-P thought he could flee from pain... too bad I knew how to deal it out...
Oct 23 - 9AM (Reply to #19)
Victim-no-more
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I am so grateful for all of

I am so grateful for all of u. This forum is going to save my life. I made a decision. Iam done with that man. I am starting NC today,i say today because I emailed him last night. I know it will give him his precious supply but he can have it. I did it for ME. It was MY closure. I told him I know he cant love or bond and in spite of it my love was real and that I would pray for him and that have forgiven him but that I am finished. I spent yesterday connecting with my higher power and I felt led to write that last email. I felt relieved and still do. I dont think I will hear from him at least not anytime soon. Last year after the discards he would send me a "merry xmas" text on xmas......the same thing on easter. This is how he would establish contact again. If it happens this year,i will ignore it. Somehow I think this really is over this time though. Thanks for all the support, I feel strong!
Oct 22 - 9PM
dulcinea441
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Ugh, yes. They only want you

Ugh, yes. They only want you to respond so that they can leave you hanging. "Silent treatment" equals the "last word" to a narc. This is the mentality that you're dealing with: someone with the emotional maturity of a two-year-old. Keep remembering that fact and that you deserve infinitely better. You are going to have to reprogram yourself after all the negative programming you received from the narc/loser/psycho. You can do it, it just takes time! Hugs, D.
Oct 22 - 7PM
Journey
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Welcome and please be

Welcome and please be reassured... what you are feeling is a completely normal reaction to being narc-ed. It takes awhile to integrate the knowledge about NPD and the emotions we feel from the abuse and brainwashing of being involved with someone who has it. Cog dis is what you are experiencing and it keeps the fog rolling in. Rest yourself and decide to stay No Contact to clear the fog. It WILL clear. Don't worry about others not understanding, they just can't unless they've walked in your shoes. We have and many of us still do, being at a similar place in recovery. Glad you found us, trust yourself and what you KNOW, soon your heart will catch up with your brain to integrate for your healing. (hugs)

Journey on...

Oct 22 - 7PM
Victim-no-more
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Thank u

Thank you guys for taking the time to respond. The sickest part of the whole mess is that I have read everything I can find on this disorder. I know there is only more misery in store if I continue. And I feel stronger than I ever have after all the things I've learned. What seems to really make me panicky is the thought of never seeing this person again in my life. And I know it makes no sense. I feel a deep disgust that I never have felt up until now....but that denial keeps shouting....well maybe someday we can be friends,or maybe after a few months I won't care as much and I can see him and not let him get to me like this. Or, maybe he will learn a lesson blah blah blah. Im just telling on myself...these are the things going thru my mind. Its hard to believe you can love and loathe someone at the same time. I just want him held accountable. It's not fair that they have a free pass to destroy people and then go on their merry way....i want him to hurt like I hurt. I wish I could scratch his eyes out!
Oct 23 - 7AM (Reply to #15)
jackguy
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I used to and still get that sometimes

That thing about well we could be friends, I don't have to blank her. And then I well up with disgust at the thought of her sickly phoniness. Remaining nc is my way of respecting myself, getting detoxed from her pathological lies, and alsomy way of telling her that I know precisely what she is and that she is transparent to me. This also lines up with my values about being truthful and having zero tolerance of abusers.
Oct 22 - 7PM (Reply to #13)
Syren66 (not verified)
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We all want justice in the

We all want justice in the beginning...it comes in the oddest forms. I do believe these people watch from a distance...and they do it for far longer than we do...I don't believe any of them have the ability to 'get over' anything...the older they get, the more baggage they come with...b/c they have never let go of a damn thing ever. We have the capacity to let go, forgive and move on. You don't want to feel abandoned and you're still connected to him emotionally. There will come a day when you are able to look back and genuinely laugh at the notion of being scared you'll never see him again, because at that point, YOU WON'T ever want to see him again. It takes time and work to get there, though...there is no short cut. You're on the right path...give yourself a huge pat on the back for that!
Oct 23 - 7AM (Reply to #14)
NarcJunkie
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That makes me feel better, Syren :)

It's so easy to convince yourself that the Narc has completely moved on and doesn't give a s*** anymore. Mine made it a point of putting on a perfect happy couple show with OW all these months. It makes me feel better to think that maybe he is still watching sometimes, not getting over anything himself while I have finally reached a point where I don't care what he does anymore and am focussed on my own life again. :)
Oct 22 - 7PM
Syren66 (not verified)
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I got the silent treatment

I got the silent treatment too...and still do...personally, I enjoy the peace and quiet these days...that's how you'll know you're moving on...takes time and a lot of introspective evaluation/honesty...it's not fun, but it's so worth the results!
Oct 22 - 7PM
jackguy
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Hi VNM

Hi VNM, Hunter is right. Stay NC and read, read, read about npd and abusers and their manipulations. I have personally found sam vaknin's videos on youtube a big help. It does get easier with time. Jackguy
Oct 22 - 6PM
Sparrow
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You friends won't and can't

You friends won't and can't understand..............it is a co- dependency that they know nothing about. It's best if you never hear from him again, unfortunately, you will more than likely hear from him. NC is the only way at this point. He is giving you the silent treatment. Don't buy into it..........work on you from here on out. Good luck and stay strong!
Oct 24 - 3PM (Reply to #9)
darling.girl
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Re: friends can't understand

Sparrow is right. We understandably go to our friends for support, because they have supported us through so many other difficult times. But this is one they don't and cannot get unless they were also preyed on by a narc. My best friend tries to understand. She conveys her love. She wishes the best for my healing and recovery. And she probably understands more than most people who haven't gone through this. But I know she had a period of judging me. A sociopath is a sociopath. If we could have seen them for what they were, we wouldn't have fallen for them. Someone described a narc's ability to fool us this way: The sleazy guy in the bar, rubbing his chest and looking for a one night stand is obvious. We know what he wants. But a narc on the prowl... He looks like Prince Charming, and promises ever lasting love. We can spot the sleazy guy. At least, the sleazy guy is honest, but the narc is another story.
Oct 22 - 5PM
Done sourcing
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Obsession is a crzy feeling.

Obsession is a crzy feeling. Over-thinking stuff that you don't even want. Mental anguish, yuck. Welcome to the site, vnm! You are not alone. We have all been hit squarely by all of the questions and concerns you have. My shit hit the fan early last year. 14 year r/s that included marriage and one child. Today (I'm a man) I am at a coffe joint sitting outside with a bud having a peaceful relaxing day. The world is big again, my life is full, and I don't live in the past anymore. Hope is here, recovery requires learning, sharing, willingness to look at things with a new perspective, and being honest even when you don't want to be. Add your comments all over this site, and get to know us... Welcome and good luck, Ds
Oct 22 - 5PM
Unfreakinreal
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Oh dear...

2 years? I say this with all the understanding and sympathy in the world... It is not reassurance you need, it's a little kick in the ass. You are going to continue to feel this way for as long as you allow yourself to be a part of this mess. I know it sucks, believe me, I have been there. It is time for you to take your bat and ball and go home. The game is not able to be won. Xoxo
Oct 22 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
Hunter
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Welcome to Narcville.. NC ..

Welcome to Narcville.. NC .. It will be ok .. Read and get a therapist !! Hunter
Oct 22 - 7PM (Reply to #3)
gwebb
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I agree...

A therapist/counsellor can only help, and so does the reading and arming yourself with info. To give you an example, my counsellor on my very first session got me to practice strategies for relaxing straight away.
Oct 22 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Yah, well with one word of

Yah, well with one word of caution...find a therapist who knows wtf NPD really is. I went to one shortly after moving out and the guy looked like he was medicated to the point of catatonia...listened to me and only said..."do you think your relationship might have failed because you're 'moody'?" SERIOUSLY?!?!?! Never went back to that guy...or any other for that matter. They may be helpful to others, but I have no use for pill pushers...masking pain doesn't solve the problem. Being judged by someone who doesn't even know the dynamic of the relationship, much less the level of evil I was living with...which, I dunno, MIGHT have had something to do with my "moodiness"?...is of no fkn use to me whatsoever. But me, being ever the smart ass...made the comment to him..."so, my mom has a thyroid problem, even though she's been DEAD for 2 years...and my relationship with someone you have never met ended because I'm 'moody'...gee, I thought the sign on your door said psychiatrist...not PSYCHIC". asswipe.
Oct 22 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
gwebb
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fair enough

I hear what you're saying.... and yes, do make sure you find someone who knows what you're talking about.
Oct 22 - 8PM (Reply to #6)
Syren66 (not verified)
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I'm beginning to think I have

I'm beginning to think I have an 'a**hole' magnet on my forehead. I know many people who love their therapist...I'm jealous...the ones I've met are some of the most f*cked up people I've ever encountered.