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#1 Sep 28 - 8AM
Mariline
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Stingy

Okay. I am feeling better. I slept last night like a child-because I nad I underline I have a clean conscience- and today realized that: okay I am broke and he exploited me AND my son.....but I am the one who enjoys life. I am able to be happy also with a slice of bread and tomatoes, while HE is the miserable one. So stingy that, being a millionaire, I had to buy him a polo shirt when we were going to meet my mum as I was ashamed of his stained and old shirt.
I paid for everything as I was the lady-HE was the beggar.

It would help if you would talk me about the pathological stinginess of your narcs, as I am sure I am not the only one victim of the stinginess here.

Sep 29 - 12AM
girlfriday
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I'm so glad you're feeling

I'm so glad you're feeling better after your recent shock. I'm feeling a little "tough luv" tonight, so I will tell you that first of all, a stingy narc is different than an exploitive psychopath, which I think you were with. Secondly, the focus should not be on how stingy he was or how he "made" you pay for everything. It should be on why you felt your worth was so low that you agreed to pay for everything. I've been there. And I won't do it again. Anyway, I SO don't mean to be "mean." I just think that we all have to start looking at the things we ALLOWED because it takes us from victim mode to victor mode. Of course, it's a process. BUT, for a laugh, as other on here may know, mine only purchased me gifts from the $.99 Only store. Seriously. How is that for stingy? (Although I have to give him credit for always paying for dinner.) Best to you.
Sep 29 - 12AM (Reply to #28)
Mariline
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But of course you are not

But of course you are not being tough. You are perfectly right and I know that. Why do you think he was an explouitive psycopath? Please tell me.....
Sep 28 - 9PM
apple
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The First AND Only time...

Payed for anything was when he took me to a motel. OMG!! I thought it was one of those pay by the hour dumps. I itched for an ENTIRE week afterwards thinking that I had headlice or bed bugs. lololololo's. It was awful. But I didn't say anything bc at least he was putting in some effort. lol
Sep 28 - 4PM
kiwi10
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jesus, are you serious? why

jesus, are you serious? why would you pay for everything with a millionare? i guess we all pay in our own way... mine i still supporting me, but i payed with my heart and getting beat... don't ever let some guy make you pay for shit again, youre better than that.
Sep 28 - 1PM
helldweller
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Oh and

I forgot that even though he gets a thousand dollars a month from the state on top of the 150K a year from the county, he drove his foster child forty minutes each morning and afternoon each way to put him in a storefront daycare center in the Chicago ghetto because it was state-funded and the preschool at our Catholic church was a hundred dollars a week. When I say Ghetto I mean GHET-TO. I also forgot that he wears the same clothes every day, too. He has one summer outfit and one winter outfit. I do think it's because it looks "humble" like you guys said. He also put 60 can lights in his living room/kitchen in the new house because "I like light," but he has never turned them on because he's too cheap. He drives to Indiana to buy cheaper cigarettes. He lied and said he worked at the courthouse downtown so he could park in the garage for free. This is a judge who worked on the south side of town and LIED through security so he wouldn't have to pay 20 bucks to park to see a show *I* bought $200 tickets for. The one time he took me to a party, he said, "Drink up, honey, it's free."
Sep 28 - 12PM
CarolKittyGale (not verified)
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stingy

seems to be defiantly a trait...mine was tighter then a gnats chaff...lol
Sep 28 - 12PM
fooled no longer
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mine is stingy and

mine is stingy and controlling but then suddenly generous. bought his 23 year old son who lives at home with mum and earns a salary a sportscar luxury brand with our saving we cant afford to go to the dentist!!! he is the only one who cant see the ludicrous nature of this. he just says its my money and ill do what i want. its mine not ours is his stock statement. I think if you look at history millionares are often as tight as a ducks end. how do you think they accumulated that money by spending it??? tight and rich often go together. A
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #19)
better off
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Well that's because everyone

Well that's because everyone can SEE the luxury sports car. There is nothing generous about it. That's about HIM and his IMAGE. There's the guy who bought his son a luxury sports car. He must be LOADED! Nobody can see your cavities, honey. And if that ain't a rich example, I don't know what is!
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #20)
fooled no longer
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better off

youre straight up hilarious! you should consider a one woman show, amd ill be your agent. ps your perceptiveness is as sharp as a tack too. thanks for the laughs! A
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #21)
better off
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LoL. thx

I would get assassinated. I've always said I would have been burned at the stake in any other century.
Sep 28 - 7PM (Reply to #22)
almostlydia
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betteroff

Isn't it the truth! I would surely have been burned at the stake in another era, or beheaded:) almostlydia

almostlydia

Sep 28 - 12PM
helldweller
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Stingy

She's right; they are stingy about everything because it's all about control. Anything they know you want or need: nope! Anything the know would make you feel happy or secure: nope! And someone else posted yesterday, that they will actuallly give it to someone ELSE just to show you that THEY are in control. Now, that said, here are some stingy things mine did: -Had me over for dinner one time in four years but ate at my house a thousand times--and specified what he wanted, but never outright. I would say, "What would you like for dinner?" and he would say, "Anything." But then I would say, "I'm making pork roast." and he'd say, "Oh, pork." Like it was brains with cheese sauce. No problem eating every scrap of it, though, and drinking a bottle of only the finest vodka at each sitting. Meanwhile, the half dozen times I imposed on him and invited myself over for a drink, we sat on the kitchen counter and he made me vodka with apple juice because that's all he had in the house (for his kid), even though he knew all day I was coming over. Apple juice. Disgusting. It's like the only juice in the whole world that doesn't mix with vodka. There were also a hundred times at least that he was supposed to come to my house and I was OUT of vodka and asked him to pick some up and he never once did it. Always some lame excuse, like "I"m stuck in traffic" or "Eric's sleeping in the back seat." THERE IS A LIQUOR STORE ONE BLOCK FROM OUR HOUSE. The one time he invited me to dinner, I had to buy the food. We never used his car. He said it was a "gas guzzler." So we would go to the gas station with my card and he would wait for me to give him my credit card. This is a multi fucking millionaire, remember. In the same minute that he filled the tank with my money, he asked me if I thought he should buy a Mercedes SUV or a BMW SUV, knowing full well I would never ride in it. He made me blow off my family for Christmas Eve so I could make dinner for him, his brother and their friends who had nowhere else to go. I swear to God I spent $1000 on dinner for 8 people; he did not give me a dime towards it; he brought nothing, not even a bottle of wine, and then he left me with the dishes at midnight. He was back in the morning for breakfast, according to his specifications. He gave his foster child a $200 complete Wii system with a bunch of games for Christmas the first year and my daughter a Hannah Montana Magic 8 Ball, and my other daughter a marshmallow gun. He'd known them 2 1/2 years by then, the foster child two months. His brother gave them nothing, and his other brother's girlfriend gave them each a pair of tights that were each four sizes too big. Four sizes. They gave the foster child a four hundred dollar bicycle. He gave me a card for each of my birthdays, and a pair of clearance shoes for our first Christmas together. He never picks up the check for anything. My brother wanted to go to dinner with us, and the bill was three hundred dollars. The narc paid nothing towards it. Nothing. When I was apalled, after we left, he said, "He invited us, honey." Toward the end, I said, "Ok. If you want to stay together and you are not going to live with me, then you have to start paying some of my bills, otherwise I need to find someone who will." He just looked at me like I had dropped down from Jupiter and said, "Are you crazy?"
Sep 28 - 11AM
better off
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They are stingy about

They are stingy about everything... not just money. And they are stingy about money for the same reasons, because it's something to hoard and control, not enjoy. Let's see... the AW millionaire had a live-in fulltime nanny/housekeeper/slave and paid her 500 dollars a month. Yes, she got room and board (in an insane asylum), but I can't fathom calling that a salary.
Sep 28 - 12PM (Reply to #12)
sunflowergrl70
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Dirty and ripped clothes

What is it about the dirty and ripped clothes? My narc was like that. He made an above average salary, had a nice house and could afford clothes. As a matter of fact. He had a ton of shirts and pants in his closet. He would wear the same shirt and jeans day after day. The shirt would have obvious rips and the jeans would be covered in old paint stains. Half the time the stuff didn't match. He was actually spoken to about it and people make fun of him to his face about it. His answer is "I'm a bachelor" or "what can I say? I'm a feral male". I actually called him feral because he's a complete slob and it seems like he actually works hard at being that way. His toilet seat was an atrocity. It was like he just peed anywhere he pleased. GROSS!
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #13)
better off
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Sounds like a big passive

Sounds like a big passive aggressive FU to me. FU, I'm not going to wear anything decent. FU, I'm not cleaning the bathroom. Nobody tells ME what to do. It's like he's five and refusing to take a bath and comb his hair, because "you can't make me!!!" Maybe?
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #16)
helldweller
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better off

Right on again, girl! "No one tells me to wear a suit to work." "No one tells me what the dress code is." "No one tells me to not wear jeans." The night before my brother's wedding--a huge deal as he had a terrible divorce from a horrible woman and it took him ten years to even date again--the narc dropped the foster child bomb on me. Then, as soon as he got home, he started texting me, "I don't have to wear a suit to this wedding, right?" "I don't have to come to the ceremony, right?" Just to screw with me. As if he hadn't f*cked me enough. Turns out, the next day, he actually didn't have a suit that fit him. He had lost a bunch of weight and literally looked like a kid with his dad's suit on. Thanks, honey, for going through all the trouble, I said. I also asked him one time, "How do you do your dry cleaning? I never see you leave with any or bring any home?" He said, "I lend my brother my car in exchange for him having it done. He's too slow to know he's being ripped off."
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #15)
helldweller
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better off

Right on again, girl! "No one tells me to wear a suit to work." "No one tells me what the dress code is." "No one tells me to not wear jeans." The night before my brother's wedding--a huge deal as he had a terrible divorce from a horrible woman and it took him ten years to even date again--the narc dropped the foster child bomb on me. Then, as soon as he got home, he started texting me, "I don't have to wear a suit to this wedding, right?" "I don't have to come to the ceremony, right?" Just to screw with me. As if he hadn't f*cked me enough. Turns out, the next day, he actually didn't have a suit that fit him. He had lost a bunch of weight and literally looked like a kid with his dad's suit on. Thanks, honey, for going through all the trouble, I said. I also asked him one time, "How do you do your dry cleaning? I never see you leave with any or bring any home?" He said, "I lend my brother my car in exchange for him having it done. He's too slow to know he's being ripped off."
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #14)
sunflowergrl70
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Oh yeah.

Most likely. Plus it's another way to get attention. He likes the idea that people think he's eccentric. I used to grit my teeth to not say anything about his sloth. I never once said anything about the disgusting toilet. I would tease him about being "feral" thinking that perhaps he would get the hint and change things up. He would just laugh and laugh at the comment. Then he's say "oh you love a feral man and you know it". WHATEVER!
Sep 28 - 9AM
janine
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Stingy N

So you'd like some examples of a nacrcissist's stinginess? Here we go. First you should know that his average income would be around 10.000 € a month (13.500 US Dollar), often more. That's not so bad, is it? He used to live on potatoes, pasta and the cheapest stuff there is most of the time. The heating would either be turned off or on low even in icy cold winter, until I said I'd no longer come to see him. His idea of dining out would be a hamburger. The few presents I had were usually something we could use "together"meaning he could hang onto them (I left them there when I left him, so he may use them with somebody else and save some money). His kids and other family got no presents whatsoever, X-mas he ignored anyway. But he'd certainly invest in people who might gain him something - company, when he needed it, business, sex or just admiration for great him. He'd even suck up to his kids' friends this way, never occured to him how ridiculous that was. And of course he would spend thousands on his hobbies. Good thing I noticed early on that he tried to let me pay for his things when shopping by not having enough money in his purse. I put a stop to that right away. Well, I did avoid wasting money. But normally it gives me so much pleasure to buy little treats for others, no way would I do this with him. To have to be so careful in order to avoid being exploited ruined much fun. You know, it's not just money such people are stingy with. In his case it was time, effort and energy he was as mean with, always considering who was worth how much. Extremely calculating, such a turn off and except for short-lived gain it got him nothing but misery and loneliness.
Sep 28 - 12PM (Reply to #2)
Meadowbrook
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nothing but misery and loneliness

Janine, I think that is a powerful observation. ExN was extremely stingy but I didn't realize it until I had already given him a lot. And by "a lot", as Better Off has pointed out, I mean not just material things but emotional things and trust and attention and time and thoughtful advice. It wasn't until after I had given so much that I realized he never gave me ANYTHING. But, silly me, I didn't wake up and run away. What did I do? I tried harder to get him to value me enough to give to me. Sigh. Just a couple of examples of his stinginess to answer the original question: -I spent money on thoughtful Christmas presents only to have him gush about how much he loved it all, then, in spite of telling me we would be "exchanging gifts", he turned and walked away. Um, hello! How is that an exchange again? Hmm -I had to ask for a present for my milestone birthday. He gave me, seemingly grudgingly, an unwrapped bar of chocolate. Gee, thanks. This was while he was showing me the new iPads and other expensive gadgets he loved to buy himself. -He took me to lunch one day to a sandwich place. I had a sinus infection and didn't have much of an appetite. He seemed annoyed that I didn't eat everything. I sensed his attitude was like, "I am so magnanimous for deigning to buy you lunch, how dare you not eat it all." I could go on....
Sep 28 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
Alibi_10
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Stingy? !!

Have posted this before but mine asked me to take my birth certificate when I went to stay. Reason? So that we could go.to a restaurant where if it is your birthday and you produce that. .. you eat for free! !!!!! How special I felt! Will run five miles rather than pay for car park EVER. !! Has lots of money and big house but skimps on everything. My birthday gifts were unwrapped and were things he didn't want any more. Would not put heating on in his house but said was cold in mine! Made me use his bath water at his house but ran big tubful at mine. Said I was wasteful with money and screwed face up if I did not finish food. ..... I just don't have big appetite. ... but he accused me of being a secret binger because he said I would be much thinner otherwise. ! Let me pay for night in hotel, but then had a temper tantrum about something minor. ... oh yes, the way I looked at him ! Was so ungrateful. That enough to be going on with? Comforting to know he was not alone in his miserliness!
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #8)
helldweller
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Meadowbrook

The last Christmas he said, "Dont get me a present. I'm not getting you one." Not even in a mean way. Just matter of factly. No, he didn't get me one. But he did get an Austrian crystal wine decanter and a cashmere sweater for the whore babysitter who doesn't speak to me.
Sep 28 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Meadowbrook
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helldweller

Wow, he actually preempted the gift exchange?! He probably thought he was doing you a favor by making sure you didn't get him anything. Ugh. I found out recently that the exN gave the OW at least one expensive gift and other lesser gifts. I'll admit it hurt me to hear that even though by the time I found out I had figured out he is an N and what that means. Even now as I write this it hurts. Sad how our logical brains and our emotional brains get all out of whack and the pain persists.
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #7)
helldweller
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Meadowbrook

The last Christmas he said, "Dont get me a present. I'm not getting you one." Not even in a mean way. Just matter of factly. No, he didn't get me one. But he did get an Austrian crystal wine decanter and a cashmere sweater for the whore babysitter who doesn't speak to me.
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
janine
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Meadowbrook, this is sooooo true

The few times my ex acted "generous"I could feel him getting angry in his typical covert N way, that I did not appreciate what he so kindly offered. I was so sick of it that I actually did not want to eat when with him nor did I want any of the few "treats" he presented knowing that he was just doing so to feel good about himself. Do not for a moment imagine that while I protected myself - certainly gave him no trust from square one - it made me happy. It is disgusting and the only way to avoid it is to end it. Which is what we have done at last!
Sep 28 - 1PM (Reply to #3)
better off
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How is that an

How is that an exchange? He's using the Narc Exchange Rate. You give, and he lets you.
Sep 28 - 7PM (Reply to #5)
almostlydia
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You're so freaking funny.

You're so freaking funny. Thanks. Narc exchange rate????? priceless. almostlydia

almostlydia

Sep 28 - 4PM (Reply to #4)
Meadowbrook
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Narc exchange rate!

That deserves a big ole LOL!