Jesse James #5!!

sure - animals rarely talk back get away from this creep ASAP ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller

Sorry, but my ex-N was into animal rights,and was a vegetarian. One of the EARLY red flags was when my friends offered him bacon. Instead of the normal, polite "No thank you" or "not interested",he proudly proclaimed "I'm a vegetarian." A Narc can be caring towards animals (my ex-N was afraid of killing a spider on his porch) because they're simple... but people, they're complicated.

Narcissistic Personality Disorder falls under the "Cluster B" category of Personality Disorders which includes Psychopaths, Sociopaths, Histrionic Peronality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Anti-Social Personality Disorder, among others. Think of it as a one way street. If they have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, they could stop there, or they could ride the Crazy Bus a little further down to full blown Psychopath. So, all Psychopaths are also Narcissists, but not all Narcissists made it all the way down Crazy Street to become Psychopaths. I say all this to get to this point - many Psychopaths DO ABUSE ANIMALS. They lack "Empathy" for others - human or animal. Narcissists could very well abuse animals, but I have not yet heard of this being their 'calling card' - sometimes they are just very selfish and self centered, but not necessisarily 'abusive' in terms of hurting animals. Whereas Psychopaths are more likely to abuse animals and humans, since they have zero feelings of empathy. Barbara will correct me if I screwed that up.