Comparing yourself to the OW

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#1 Sep 12 - 12AM
brinamarie
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Comparing yourself to the OW

after 5 years of being told i tend to get chubby at times, i am flat chested & "look just like my brother" it's been really hard to find the inner confidence I USED to have...

Especially since the last OW had a gorgeous face, and huge boobs. I even considered breast augmentation after her (which xN told me "only insecure girls get breast implants") ...which I suppose is true to an extent.

I am so scared he will end up with this beautiful, large chested woman and I will be ancient history. Focusing on the physical today and I am ashamed to admit....

I expressed this to my therapist and said my biggest fear is that he will end up with her, and I will be bitter, untrusting & alone for the rest of my life. She replied "well his karma is the fact that he will never be satisfied with anyone and miserable the rest of his"

I hope this is true :/

Sep 13 - 8PM
juliamarie
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Never good enough

My Narc said I was his perfection from head to toe based on his last D&D email to me. That was physically.... He wasn't happy with the way I acted. It's always something with these assclowns. I was beautiful enough...just not willing to put up with his crap. Seriously, never alter yourself for another person. You are beautiful on the inside..which is all that matters. I'm struggling with feeling I'm not beautiful on the inside based on what my Narc said. I'm much more concerned about that than my obvious physical imperfections I have since I'm 40 years old.
Sep 14 - 9PM (Reply to #17)
brinamarie
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i guess so!!!

after reading everyone's posts & experiences, I guess if it's not one thing it's another. I just like to fantasize about being NC forever!!! Getting breast implants (for me, if i ever had the balls) and getting married to another man... Then posting all my happiness & loving pictures of my new life all over facebook. SO juvenile, I know. but a girl can dream!!!!
Sep 13 - 11AM
Better than ever
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Hi....not sure it this will help but....

I want to tell you about my physical experience with my Narc. I do have a large breasts with a thin body (I'm a ballroom dancer) and blond hair which he prefered (or so he said).....So, I'm 42 and he would look for imperfections, point them out ( I had lines on the back of my thighs) and give my breasts very little attention....and sometimes act as if he wished they were smaller...... The bottom line.....they are NEVER happy with what is in front of them and will always find fault with everyone..... You are perfect just the way you are!!!!! : )
Sep 13 - 2PM (Reply to #15)
brinamarie
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Thanks love...

it does make me feel better! i believe i'm an attractive person? or at least I used to. Not the prettiest, but a good heart too.. But it's been 5 years of someone witholding sex constantly, pointing out every little blemish or flaw, verbalizing other girls are attractive to me constantly, and cheating... I imagine even kim kardashian would feel terrible about herself after a narc. makes me sick.
Sep 13 - 3AM
KeshaN
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Don't think of things this

Don't think of things this way. I used to worry that my XN would meet some beautiful woman and live happily ever after too. Now that we are apart he bragged to me about his new chick stating that she is more financially successful then me and smarter then me. HA! I was jealous for a minute but that soon turned to pity for the ow. I know what she is going to have to go through. Somehow I wish I could warn her. These other women have nothing by getting these low lives. Feel sorry for her! He will not change for her either. He may love her big buns but then that will get old and he will eventually tell her that she needs a breast reduction in other words he will eventually devalue everything about her! Then on to the next one he will go. they will destroy and hurt every woman in their paths. If it is not as bad with her as it was with you it is only because she is easier manipulated and controlled and because she doesn't know him yet and adores him.
Sep 13 - 3AM
ifinallygotit
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please do not change yourself because of him!

they are happy with no one! big boobs,little boobs no matter! Please accept yourself as a fine total package and wasn't he attracted to you in the first place? I am pretty (not gorgeous but very attractive) naturally slim and fit with nice size boobs! My exN left and hung out with a nasty looking bar hoe with thick waist and small boobs! it does not matter how nice, smart, beautiful or fit you are, they just want attention and new supply, period. Maybe they think new supply is better for their image than us but so what! Do you think I now want to look like a grade B porn star? NO!
Sep 13 - 8PM (Reply to #11)
SoaperGirl
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My Narc Backed Off After Mastectomy - One Boob Woman

I'm sure you are right. After my mastectomy, the narc in my life began distancing himself from me. I'm sure if it wasn't one thing, it would have been something else. One of the last things the narc did was try to throw in my face, I only had one breast left. I just blew him off! I didn't get upset in the slightest which likely disappointed him because he couldn't hurt me! The past year has been unbelievable. Okay, he has OW now...oddly enough although I am a year older, I think she looks older than me and plain, nondescript. As everyone says, I believe she got the worst of it all things considered! She got the Narc! How's that for bad karma? However, thanks to skilled surgeons, I once again have two breasts, perhaps even improved over the originals. No longer saggy and baggy breasts of a 60+ year old,. try more like about a 25 year old woman! High, round and firm! I figure the next guy will definitely be happy with end results of my mastectomy and reconstruction. I know I am! hahaha.
Sep 14 - 9PM (Reply to #12)
brinamarie
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GOod for you!!

THanks for sharing your story!!! disgusting that he would ever say anything to you about something so terrible; these vampires are UN REAL!!! I always think about that, though. How ex N hated illness and when I was sick. Ex N could barely handle when I had food poisoning or a cold - he'd be out with his friends. I can't even imagine being a woman with breast cancer, enduring treatments and being with some selfish, asshole?! makes me sick... I am happy to hear your success & your nice younger looking ta-ta's ! lol
Sep 13 - 2AM
Done sourcing
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Last night I was grilling

Last night I was grilling burgers for me and my kid. I was thinking about the cool cool people I have met this past year. I have a few new friends that I appreciate very much. I was cooking and I noticed I was so happy and content. My kid was getting the fixins ready inside, and the meat smelled so good cooking with the garlic salt, and I was smiling with no one close by. I was looking forward to dinner, Peeking on here, watching a show with my daughter, and just for feeling so free. This from a guy that couldnt sleep more than 2 hours a night a year ago. I want for nothing today. Last year I felt I had lost everything! Same guy. What has changed? Time, alot of nc with some slips thrown in (usually with the excuse that she called me), reading, learning, praying, and a willingness to look at me and what I needed to do to move on a free man. Her behavior and disorder gave me much to talk about, ruminate about, and focus on. It is important to know that they are sick and will never be even semi-normal. But moving past that to the reality that my life is my responsibility and I need to take 100 percent ownership of my future is key. I wanted to move past the pain, but didnt know how. It is happening every day now, even when I dont even expect it or ask for it. My gift to you is this...there will be a time when you will be grateful someone else has your narc...and that the mask that fooled you is gone for good. And know that since he is going to be a jerk and a bore and a phony and a liar and a cheat and an abuser for forever and a day...that you are lucky that someone else besides yourself spends their days trying to please him and figure him out! ds
Sep 14 - 2PM (Reply to #9)
Sunafterrain
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DS

This is one of the most UPLIFTING, BEST posts I've seen. I was so relating to what you were feeling cooking and being with your kid!!! THAT IS JUST GREAT! All you've said is right. Time really does heal, and NC is very important in making that happen. I'm so glad to hear you are happy and well!
Sep 13 - 10AM (Reply to #8)
Winter
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Done sourcing

Thank you so much, it gives us hope and I am so happy for you!
Sep 12 - 9PM
Susan32
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It's a diversion

Ns/Ps use the OW to create a diversion from how terribly they're treating us. They want us to be envious, longing. They want us to think we're somehow unworthy, while they're lavishing their gifts on the OW. The ex-Psych prof's girlfriend (now wife of a decade) was more tomboyish than I, she had a haircut like him... but in some ways, she resembled ME so much (to an uncanny extent) that hating her would be like hating myself. It was like seeing a twin or a reflection. It was difficult to envy her when I saw how horribly he treated HER. No physical affection. They didn't even pretend to be happy together. He didn't introduce her to his colleagues. He abandoned her. She went running down the stairs after him... and they were arguing all the way down. His plan to triangulate me backfired. If he HAD treated her better than me, yes, I'd be sobbing over how she stole "my" man and how she robbed me of such a gem of a husband&father... but NO. She got my gratitude. Everlasting gratitude, for having gotten him OFF MY HANDS. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ENVY THAT???
Sep 13 - 8PM (Reply to #6)
Susan32
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Counterproductive

The ex-Psych prof's tasteless flaunting of his girlfriend (after a pastor friend of mine died, and my senior thesis advisor was a fellow member of the congregation at my church) in some ways, put me in MY place. No longer could I think "what does she have that I don't?" Envying her would be counterproductive. I didn't know her. If I had focused on how the ex-P treated the OW, I would've been eaten away with jealousy. Instead, I had focus on how he treated ME and what I wanted. I had to contemplate MY needs and desires in a relationship. It had nothing to do with her. I saw him treat her shabbily, so his theater to make me envious didn't exactly work. What his girlfriend (now wife of a decade) saw in him, I don't know. What he saw in her, I don't know... I don't know if she's a fellow Narc, an emotional vampire like him, or if she's a normal person who's suffering like us. All I know... and know for certain.. is that he treated ME badly. I was the one dissatisfied. I was the one languishing. I was the one trying to put a happy face on a bad situation. I was pretending to be happy when I wasn't.
Sep 12 - 9AM
Winter
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brinamarie

I understand your feelings. And I think they are legitimate as any feelings or emotions. You were verbally abused in regards with your physical appearance. I think it hurts very deeply. But that was done intentionally. Now you are seeing him with a woman who has those physical traits that you don’t have. Again, I think it is absolutely normal to feel the way you feel. I think every single human creature is affected by how others perceive us, especially by those that we love. Of course he is a total looser by saying those nasty things to you. This is the part you have to accept. He is an N, a dark soul, incapable of love. He does feel physical attractions to a large breast – fine, many men do. But not a man with the self respect and a bit of heart would ever put it this way to a woman they are intimate with. No matter if they love her or not. So he is a total looser. Now, about you. Sweetheart, when we are loved, every piece of our body and soul is loved. We can be chubby/skinny, young/old, big breast or a flat one. How many times I saw men not falling in love for incredibly beautiful women and “ losing their mind” for the very ordinary ones. And here is the key to the famous self love. “I love my self they way I am” and I know I am loveable for who I am with all my physical and even non physical aspects. Please, do not beat yourself for feeling the way you do, it will pass
Sep 12 - 12AM
Sunafterrain
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brinamarie

That is kinda shallow LOL! Only narcs think that way. truthfully, honey, she could be two ton tessy or twiggy, it doesn't matter to them what she looks like, it only matters to us. And it shouldn't. They use women. There is no love there. Pretty soon he'll be comparing her to you because that's what they do. They don't go with a woman because she has big boobs and a gorgeous face, they go with a woman because she's willing to be his victim. Not at first, because she doesn't know it, but she will. Don't focus on the physical. It's shallow and especially to the N, completely meaningless. It's not about you or her, it's always about HIM.
Sep 12 - 12AM (Reply to #2)
brinamarie
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Going to repeat that to

Going to repeat that to myself over & over. Needed some reassurance. THank you...
Sep 12 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
into the light
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Listen to your therapist

Listen to your therapist Brinamarie! He'll be the same with whoever it is - with pathologicals they just repeat past behaviour - they don't change, he doesn't even really see the woman as we would: just sees himself reflected in the woman. Hugs.