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#1 Nov 7 - 11PM
kiwi10
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update :)

Hi everyone. I'm going to take some time to try and respond to some of the posts here tonight before bedtime. The new guy and I are having amazing conversations and I'm so love sick I can barely sleep. There ARE nice kind men out there, I swear it! Ones who will listen and be interested in you. You will allfind one when and if you really want to, as I am convinced this is a meeting of some of the most amazing women on earth. I'm so happy right now and I am keeping it in my prayers that you all get this too because you deserve to be loved and seen and cherished.

Nov 9 - 4PM
Briseis
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Fierflie

LOL here below are examples of what good friends are :) Everyone is happy for you to be feeling good, after a long time of misery. BUT they aren't willing to leave it at that because they care about what happens to you. Now I'm gonna say something I've been biting back ever since you met this new young man: DON'T you dare hurt him. LOL!!! The last thing on your mind, I'm sure. But honey, he sounds like he's in such a different league than you. You are a woman of the world, and he sounds like a he was raised conservatively and religiously. Does his family know about you? I mean, REALLY know about you??? If this is serious, hon, you have to get real honest here. You are still living with your exNarc, still dependent upon him for shelter and other things. Have you shared this with the new guy? I mean seriously told him the truth? Probably not (at least, ALL of the truth). Yet you are lovesick and sleepless at night over him. He probably hasn't the slightest clue as to who YOU are, in all your glory. And that is important, for him to make an informed choice. You've already gotten expert advice on all the other stuff (about leaping from a Narc relationship that isn't quite over into another one). I can't say it any better. But there is another side to this, too. I don't know this kid, but my life experience is what has me wondering about what I'm wondering about :D I care much more about YOU, though. I care about you being whole and healthy and confident with yourself. About reaching your goals. About your maturity as a woman. What this kid looks like on paper should be the least of what attracts him to you, otherwise, you are using him for another Sugar Daddy and that is just not right. You need to learn to take care of YOURSELF, without a man to do it for you. That's not fair to the guy. Even if he wants to do it for you, it's not fair to him. My sister found herself a man who totally takes care of her. She barely lifts a finger. She doesn't work or pay a single bill. She jokes that their daughters are "farm princesses" cuz they don't lift a finger either. But . . . she is dependent on him, for everything. She is unhappy with that. She is not happy with herself, even though their marriage is a good one. She is still a little girl in so many ways. So "unrealized". She's brilliant and gifted, if the IQ tests and college scholarships she got offered are any indication. But she sold out to be "taken care of" and now she doesn't have her own money (though my BIL is generous), she doesn't have her own car, she doesn't have her own LIFE because she didn't want to be responsible for herself, and found herself a man willing to work his ass off to give her and their girls a lazy fat and BOOOOORING existance. I feel pity for her!! And really sorry for him. They love each other and have beautiful children. BIL works on his farm and he is happy, because he's doing something. Human beings need to be useful, to have meaningful work and an amount of independence and personal activities. My sister has none of that, and if something happened to my BIL she would be TOAST. She's have plenty of money, but she wouldn't have the slightest idea what to DO, how to make it work, how to cope or manage a THING except perhaps the dishwasher. You'll do what you are going to do, and I'll love ya anyway :) But I'm not talking out of my ass, here. And neither are these other good FRIENDS of yours here on the board.
Nov 9 - 4PM
ewa
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Fierflie

I am so happy for you :). Isn't great feeling to think of sb else then N? :)
Nov 9 - 2PM
blueeyes
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Fierflie, nice and easy girlfriend

I'm glad your feeling good, keep your eye out for red flags, illigitiment children, or tempers..lol Keep posting, I worry with the gun under the bed... Is he out?
Nov 8 - 9PM
kiwi10
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i'm not don't worry

first of all he's pretty religious. in this custom, you don;t even really TOUCH until you are engaged or married. we have been spending time talkingon the phone and in person about herbs and stuff, becoming friends. nothing more. i'm just smitten is all. to top it off, i think his family is really (I mean REALLY) wealthy. :) I'm totally not rushing anything, and trust me, he about as un NARCY as they come. he's shy, ackward and genuine.
Nov 8 - 10PM (Reply to #7)
no more
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Fireflie

I am so happy for you... It is nice to have someone pay attention to you and chat you up,,,we have all been there before,, but I think you need to realize you are not even out of the relationship with your exnh yet,,,you need to end that first before you are even able to go on with any other relationship. It is a nice feeling to have someone new there to help you thru these difficult times,,,but that is how I met my exn,,, not even close to being out of my previous relationship,, so I really just want you to be careful. We are all here to give advice,,support and help each other out. Please just BE,,,,careful,,,we all want the very best for each other.

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Nov 8 - 10PM (Reply to #8)
kiwi10
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but...

i have been out of my relationship with my x husband for at least 4 months.
Nov 8 - 11PM (Reply to #10)
no more
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Fireflie

4 months is nothing,,,I just reread your story and it is horrendous to say the least. I am 55 years old and this is not my first n experience,,,it is in fact my third,,,that I know of from reading this board. I too have had some very difficult times with my exns. I wish I had this board 36 years ago. I don't know if the older you get the more you learn from what one experiences,,,but I wish someone had of given me advice about Ns 30 years ago,,,but you never learn until you experience it. I just hope you don't go thru anymore n experiences. They are the worst and you need to protect yourself emotionally from any more n relationships. They will kill you if you let them. You talk about wealth and maybe in some way social climbing,,like who you know,,,I was there too once,,,money and material things mean absolutely NOTHING to me now. Life is all about friendships, family and health. I have absolutely no family other than my son,,my sister and a brother. Right now I know for sure my health is good but you never know what tomorrow will bring. Please give yourself some more time,,,or at least keep your eyes and ears open.. Don't just take life for granted. We are all the same and we can not see the forrest for the trees around us when we are in any situation. It is hard to look from the outside when you are inside any situation. 4 months is not enough time,,,,we are here to protect everyone on this site from further emotional turmoil. We have all suffered enough and I know for sure that this board has helped me a lot. I don't post very oten,,,but read everyday. I am not very well written so that is why I don't post. Hope I have got my message across. We all need time to heal,,I don't know how long that takes every individual person,,but give yourself the time you deserve.

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Nov 8 - 11PM (Reply to #9)
Janet
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Your ex is living under the

Your ex is living under the same roof as you right now (that is messy). Four months is not much time after a divorce from a HEALTHY individual, let alone the tailspin one is left in after the divorce from an N/P. Time focusing on oneself, with no distractions, is really important for recovery. It is hard and it takes time (at least a year, 18 months is often recommended). Abuse is horrible. We here have all been abused, including you, and to get well it takes work and unfortunately a relationship is a major distraction. You have said you are "lovesick" then "that he is just a friend" then you mention his family's financial status -- which should be of NO interest to you at all. You are looking for something from him and that is not fair to you or him. This is all meant with kindness, but you have a lot of work to do and you are avoiding that. You cannot do deep soul searching and lovesick flirting at the same time. Peace. J

Peace. J

Nov 8 - 8PM
Lisa E. Scott
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Fierflie

Happy for you, Fierflie! Just be sure your eyes are wide open. Enjoy what life brings you. Enjoy this because you deserve it. As you said, we all do and when the timing is right, it will happen for us. Just don't rush anything, k? xoxo
Nov 8 - 5AM
desprathousewife
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Woahhhhhhh Fierflie

I'm really pleased to hear you sound so happy, just wish you'd put the brakes on a little here. Don't go rushing anything, this guy is still very new to you. I'm concerned with how you are saying you are lovesick already. This is what happens when we get with a narc remember. Hell I'm not saying this guy is a Narc, I know nothing about him, but falling in love again so quick, after everything you have just been through, and are still GOING through, concerns me. Take your time, slow things down and enjoy getting to know each other. Keep a tight reign on your feelings here, I'd HATE to see you hurt again :( Sorry to put a damper on things, I'm worried about you is all x Oh and one last thing, remember how you felt when you first met the N? He will have made you feel HE was a nice kind man, these guys are GREAT at putting on an act. This is why we all fell for them in the first place. Now we are all WISER hopefully. Take care sweetheart x
Nov 7 - 11PM
Mariline
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Amen :-) very happy for you

Amen :-) very happy for you little Fierflie! You deserve it!! But only, pay attention! ((((hugs))))
Nov 8 - 8PM (Reply to #2)
PhoebeR
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WUHU!

So happy for you! Take it slow. Enjoy and yes there are good, kind men you there. :)
Nov 9 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
Anne_
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happy for you!

reading your post made me very happy! enjoys what life brings you!