Self-abandonment

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#1 Jul 27 - 11AM
Klarity Belle
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Self-abandonment

I have mentioned in previous posts that I have no doubt that N's & P's are capable of working their way into the psyches of even the most secure and stable folk and affecting them and throwing them off balance. However, it is my belief that N's and P's are even more adept at sniffing out a 'victim' because they are easier prey, easier to work over because the ground work has already been done for them long before by a dysfunctional upbringing - N's are lazy, that's why they have an antenna for the emotionally wounded even if those wounds are hidden well under an exteria of confidence and competancy.

I try not to use the 'V' word or worse the 'C'word - they are loaded words and can cause negative reactions. From my own experience I see myself as someone who suffered childhood trauma; a strong survivor who operated just fine in the world until it came to romantic personal relationships. Then, each time I would manage to get involved with someone who ultimately (after the honeymoon phase) did not value me and would emotionally neglect me. My childhood conditioning had been to learn to accept this kind of behaviour as 'normal' and that was the best I could expect. This unconcious belief kept me in unhealthy relationships way too long, long enough for an N type to really get his hooks in deep.

I have since come to realise that I developed a lot of adaptive behaviours to survive my traumatic childhood and these have not served me well in my subsequent relationships - I was indeed a magnet for N's, ASPD's and PD types in general and through my 20's and 30's I struggled to become a more assertive person. My last love was AvPd (Avoidant PD)- a good man but nevertheless still emotionally distant and neglectful of our relationship. This is when it first dawned on me that throughout my life I had been self-abandoning.

Since then (around 2 years) I've been more into self focus and my own recovery since and I have to say, that by learning to love myself and self-nurture, there has been some major improvements - and not an N in sight!

I read this interesting article recently, written by a lady called Susan Elliot, she runs a blog called 'Getting Past your Past'. It sums up self-abandonment pretty well:-

http://gettingpastyourpast.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/letting-your-light-s...

Jul 28 - 9AM
smileyfacepr
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yes!!

I have visited the site :Getting past your past: and yes Susan Elliott is also awesome!! Thanks for the article! xoxo

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Jul 27 - 8PM
Lisa E. Scott
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Klarity Belle

Wow, great post. Thank you so much for sharing! I love her blog and will have to check out her book. It is time to focus on ourselves and take care of ourselves. When we're in a relationship with a narc, their needs consume us. I almost think we like it that way at first because it means we do not have to worry about our own issues. We're so consumed with making them better and fixing them that there's no time left to think about how we can help and nurture ourselves. It's time we do that and start talking about how to do that. Great post!
Jul 27 - 6PM
Klarity Belle
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Trauma re-enactment

This article is a bit more heavy going but certainly shines some light on why/how victims of abuse can go on to repeat traumas in a bid to 'get things right'. http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/vanderkolk/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran "That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

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"The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran

"That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung

http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4

Jul 27 - 1PM
BlueMoon
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Thank you!

This is great! And I believe ultimately when a man or anyone sees us taking care of ourselves, they value us more and become even more solicitous... Ultimately if we love ourselves and reflect that to the world, things fall into place. It is a skill to learn like anything else, I have found. Not easy.
Jul 27 - 1PM
Briseis
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Thank you KB :) I've been

Thank you KB :) I've been out for a while now and recently I think I "got" what it means to abandon myself. You know how you hear the words "abandon yourself" and you think you know what it means? But then it HITS you lol. OH, that's what it means!! I was one of those who was conditioned to abandon myself OR ELSE, my father was NPD and a few other things. Any sort of self assertion was punished or ridiculed. I didn't really deserve to exist unless I was pleasing to him. It's still very much a work in progress. In some ways I still self efface automatically, without even thinking about it. I am trying to learn the healthy difference between being a "normally" self effacing person AND not going so far as to abandon myself entirely. I still allow people to get under my skin, but they don't get under quite so far and I can wake up to it and "shed" their little hooks more quickly. That is progress :)
Jul 27 - 12PM
betty2020
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Thank you for this article

Thank you for this article Klarity, This is so true that it is easy to abandon ourselves in the relationship with the N. The list of demands place on us to try maintain peace and tranquility leaves very little time to focus on us. We are to lost in the cycle of abuse to see that we even EXIST at all. Now in the aftermath we are left with as an empty shell. This is were we have to change gears and refocus on what we lost. Ourselves. xoxox only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Jul 27 - 12PM
Used
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ps

i will never be able to love my self i dont know anything about love, when narcs tried to get me with the i love you, it didnt mean a thing it still doesnt, i dont want anyone to love me, how can you miss what you never had, it is alien to me, but what i do expect is respect, i have now earned it the hard way and i expect it .
Jul 27 - 12PM
Used
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klarity belle

brilliant and i so can relate to it, i was used to bieng treated this way in childhood, that i expected so little, and so little was what i got, i have relized in going into relationships with these people ,that what i am ultimately doin is taking no responsibilty, ergo i didnt even have to think for myself, so never[until this past 3years]addressed my problems and my needs, it has been hard for me this last couple of years, b/c for the first time in my adulthood i am goin it alone since i was 14 years old ive always had a nmale in my life,over 9mnths nc with both of them, thanks for post.
Jul 27 - 12PM
Goldie
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A love relationship with myself

Hi Klarity, Thank you so much for sharing. I can totally relate to your post. I have played out a similar role in relationships as you describe. The best times in my life have been when I was out of relationships, that is when I excelled in business, bought my house, raised my son, and traveled. When I am in relationships I get lost and become someone who is afraid of being unloveable and being abandoned. My sponsor from this site told me that she wants me to have a love relationship with myself and this I am attempting for the first time. The theme in my family of origin was, it's all about them. My role was care giver. The message was: children are to be seen and not heard. We were bred to have as few needs and wants as possible. I remember this doctor who specialized in women in painful relationships, can't think of her name, told me that when you love yourself the "crazy's" won't want anything to do with you. Again, thanks for the post and the link, great stuff. God bless, Goldie
Jul 27 - 12PM
rainbow1
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Good post

Everything that you just said describes what I am feeling. Good post!

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Jul 27 - 11AM
NinjaGirl
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I absolutely love her blog.

I absolutely love her blog. Her book is very good as well. I highly recommend it to anyone who's going through a breakup or having issues with self-esteem.