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#1 Jun 29 - 8AM
Happy1
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I need help

I failed at no contact and am so scared of the lengths I will go to stay with this N. I have been brainwashed I know but it's crazy. I have done everything on that list that was posted of what the the N's expect of us to stay. Like look the other way, etc. My N a month ago was paying a great deal of attention to another lady we attended a baseball game with. I of course got jealous because he even moved to go sit next to her and talk and I was left alone. I was jealous and my jealousy is bad now. Anyway, she was part of the same group we were in and he took a ton of pictures of her and her children. He didn't take one picture of my son and I and I got pissed and jealous and said something to him. I am not very good with words and I just blurted out something stupid like 'why are you taking so many pictures of HER'? So anyway, he lost it there and we fought all night and the next day. We were supposed to be going to his boat with the boys the next day. I was upset because he was ignoring me in front of his friends so I started defending myself and said that I won't be treated this way and will not attend breakfast with these people when you are being so cruel and a jerk. I told him to take the boys to breakfast and I packed our stuff up. Anyway, we went back to his house because he said he had to mow the lawn. He said we can go because we are 'friends' (not girlfriend status) or not go. He said he didn't care one way or another. Well that is what gets me to go. I don't know what it is but maybe it's the feeling of being discarded and I can't take it. I want to mean more than what he treats me. So we did go this weekend and the last 3 weekends we pretended nothing had happened I guess. But then I noticed the last few weeks he was giving me one word answers, etc and new this wasn't good. I try even harder when I know something is wrong. Well I tried the NC for a few days and I was in such a bad spot and scared that I contacted him and I did go to his boat this past weekend. On Thursday night he got drunk and wouldn't touch me. I finally said something and he said that I ruined it weeks ago with my jealousy and it's over. I was stunned and confused. I said then why am I here now? Why did you wait 3 weeks? Why are you bringing this all up now? Of course I didn't get answers and he said he had no feelings for me because I ruined any hope for that and he will not miss me at all when I'm gone. Well, we were laying in bed when he said all this and I did something I've never done before to anyone. I slapped him out of the hurtful things he was saying to me and couldn't take the painful words. I was screaming and slapping him. He was worried about the neighboring boats hearing me of course and kept telling me to calm down. I was so upset and instead of getting up and leaving I laid there and cried while he slept. The next morning he got up and went to work. I asked if we could talk when he gets back and he said yes. So of course I know me and I was texting him throughout the day out of desperation to win him back. I even texted sex messages which he wanted more detail and for me to go on about. By the end of the day he was telling me to start dinner. We ended up eating dinner and not talking about night before and having sex all weekend (a lot of which is me pleasing him only) and he was holding my hand for walks. I left stunned and confused and now have no clue what I'm doing. I see him only on weekends and cannot control myself. I am a freak! A complete freak that has no dignity and self respect any longer I guess. I don't care about myself and only care about him. He is in my head day and night. What kind of steps can I take? I cannot go cold turkey NC because I go into complete panic mode and break it. God please help me.

Jun 14 - 3PM
Happy1
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reading a post from one year ago

Hi all, I'm reading where I was 1 year ago and I guess I'm a little sad that I'm not further along than I am, but I'm so glad I'm not in this place from a year ago. I remember how deeply hurt I was and confused. I'm still hurt, but I know that I'm better off without him. I just need to continue living today and not a year ago. Very hard day today. Thanks, Happy1
Jun 14 - 9PM (Reply to #38)
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I'm sorry that you're having

I'm sorry that you're having a difficult day. Just wanted to send you support and encouragement.....you are on the right path, you are on your way and you will get there! Celebrate your clarity and progress :) ~KG
Jun 14 - 4PM (Reply to #37)
Hunter
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Happy

Ugh!! You are not that person from a year ago! Plus it's really only been six months of real NC! This guy is a hug Jackoff! Yuck! Stop, you know why ??? Because we got the Beat! Hunter
Jun 14 - 3PM (Reply to #36)
Done sourcing
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I'm sorry today sucks for you

Been there, got the T-shirt, sometimes put it on and it still fits. This process is diffucult, keep posting and reading and do something good for yourself, you deserve good things and good people in your life. When I list the good things in my life today, I include this site. Chris
Jul 2 - 9AM
helldweller
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sad1

I'm actually going out of town with my freaking ex husband and our daughters rather than stick around here and be left behind again this weekend while the N and the Prince (that's what I call the foster child) leave us behind. I cannot bear to watch them get in the car again together and drive away on another beautiful weekend. Ugh. Please take good care of yourself this weekend, and concentrate on YOUR son. Be totally there for him and show this idiot what a real parent-child relationship is like. Also, are you planning on going to the first Chicago meeting when Lisa sets it up?
Jul 5 - 9PM (Reply to #34)
Happy1
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helldweller

I tried really hard this weekend to just focus on my son and not try to over think things. I can't say it was a good weekend with the N and his son. I'm overwhelmed with my attachment problem. I'm glad you went out of town and away from your horrible N and Prince. I hope it was relaxing and helped you forget things for awhile. I do plan on attending Lisa's meeting if it's a week night. Maybe we can go downtown together. I hope you are good! 8-)
Jun 30 - 4PM
agnesmurphy17
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Cannot go cold turkey

Sounds like you & this man are in the throws of "traumatic bonding." Pain & pleasure alternating - random reinforcement can really keep a victim in a horrible situation forever. And creates such a profound attachment to the abuser. An attachment more profound than one can imagine--the abuser is THE savior & THE validator. All others mean nothing & their support & validation means nothing. I agree, once one gets out of the web of the narcissist for a long time, then one sees what occurred. While caught in the web, it's almost impossible to see clearly. Unfortunately, no contact is about the only way to recover from these brainwashing abusers.
Jun 30 - 8PM (Reply to #32)
Happy1
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yes... he breaks up with me

yes... he breaks up with me all the time and then we get back together. It's always so intense and traumatic for me. I don't get this attachment to my abuser at all. I don't get why he's my savior. It's a sick cycle we're in. Completely sick!
Jun 30 - 4AM
helldweller
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sad1

I think once again that your N and mine are one and the same. Everything is the same. And I panic too from NC. I just can't do it. It feels so much less terrifying except that it always ends in disaster and violence. It truly is an addiction. I feel like an alcoholic who says, "Why can't I have just one drink?" when I think, "Why can't I just be detached from him? Be casual with him?" But it doesn't work that way. We are addicted. My ex husband was an alcoholic--not an N, though--and I'd go to his meetings with him sometimes. They always talked about how, if you stop drinking and then start again, it's always worse than it was when you stopped. It's as if you had kept drinking and you need more than you did when you stopped. It's the same thing with these creatures. I can stop talking to him for three days, and then agree to have a talk about things, and it will end in an argument. The next time we don't talk for three days and then get together, it ends in pushing and slapping. The next time, it ends in a fist fight. I am completely subdued now. I feel totally powerless over my own life. He still asks to have sex every day and refuses to have a conversation, obviously hates me visciously and is just deliberately abusing and controlling me. I just found out I have to have surgery on my shoulder because of his violence last month, and I told him for some bizarre reason, ridiculously thinking he would care or help me (I have no insurance). He texted me back, "Baby, the drama. Always the drama." I don't know what to do either. I"m exhausted, depressed, panicked, horrified, trapped. I'm in counseling but it's just more talk, talk, talk about him, constantly.
Jun 30 - 7AM (Reply to #24)
Happy1
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helldweller

We truly do have a lot of similarities. My ex husband is an alcoholic as well but won't come to terms so he won't go to meetings. That's what also makes my N look so appealing I guess because he's not an alcoholic and seems more responsible than my gay ex alcoholic husband. wow! I am sorry to hear you have to have an operation on your shoulder because of what your N has done to you. He sounds as cruel as mine and that's scary. I'm also in counseling and I know what what he is but again it's same as you and it's just talk talk talk to me. I went to outpatient therapy for a week rather than being admitted to a hospital a few months ago because I wasn't completely suicidal but they knew I was heading there. My counselor is worried that I'm going to commit suicide. The way he has broken up with me so many times I can't count and I go to any lengths to beg for his forgiveness and kiss his as_s to no end even though I know I'm not wrong when I stand up for myself. It tears me down each time and I guess I haven't hit bottom yet. I feel I have and I feel worse than I ever have in my life but I keep the addiction and beg and beg and beg. When I finally get out of this I will do whatever I can to help other women with this addiction. I never thought I could be brainwashed or addicted to anything in my life and it's a matter of these evil men taking advantage of our kind and giving hearts and just wanting to be loved. Just wanting affection. I didn't know these devils existed. I never knew one before my N and he's the absolute cruelest and meanest N in the world. God, he gives me nothing and I still want him. He doesn't even put on a nice act when we get back together as yours doesn't. He just abuses right away again. Like I'm the enemy and I'm so not. I've told him I'm not his enemy and he doesn't get it. He talks to other women on email and spills his thoughts out to them and I know nothing of what he's thinking. I can't say feeling because he has no heart and no soul. I feel cheated out of so much. Thank you helldweller. I know you are having just as hard if not harder time than I am with the physical pain as well and now surgery. My heart truly goes out to you and everyone on here that is being so supportive.
Jun 30 - 9AM (Reply to #25)
helldweller
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sad1

You cannot give up on this, as I cannot though we cannot at this point imagine life without him, and it's insane. When I see his face in my mind now, I don't even see him nice as I used to. I used to have a mind full of the images of us together at the beginning, his great smile and twinkling eyes, etc. Now I just see him the way he is to me: nasty, vicious, degrading, dismissing, evil, heartless and cruel. I watch him go through life, carefully maneuvering among the web of "safe" places and people he's set up who cushion him from the world: his brother next door, his enabling babysitter, his few political friends. I see them laugh and hug, I see them talking out on the sidewalk or at their cars, I see them go out to dinner and parties, I see them coming home from trips. For me, he has only a dead expression and dead eyes. He asked me to have sex last night, even though I made it clear he could not come over anymore until he sat down and talked to my daughter about what has gone on (he dismissed her when he got his foster child two years ago and never once spoke to her about it; she was heartbroken because she adored him and we were supposed to get married and live together). He didn't even answer; he would never apologize or explain himself to anyone, let alone a ten year old. I asked him to go to dinner with me and talk about what is going to happen with us, what has happened with us, and he said no, that he had plans. I said, with who? He said, with a friend. He said that my concerns about my daughter and my complaints about being kept away from his son, and my complaints about never going out together or doing anything as a family are "nonsense." He then said that the other women in his life are smart and sensible, that they "don't do your drama" and that's why he and his son spend time with them and not me. Well, sad1, he might as well have cut my heart out with a butcher knife. The way they drain us of all our goodness and energy and love for years and then throw us away saying, "Not good enough. You are just annoying or a bitch or a whiner." When he brought home his child, out of the blue, we were just about to get engaged. We had appointments for fertility screenings. When he told me the news, I let my entire life slide to step up to the plate and be the child's mother, as requested, and I was rewarded with the two of them going out of town for a week so the N could sleep with someone else. I was a wreck, cooking, taking him to school, buying clothes, finding a doctor and getting him his shots, while my business failed, my children suffered, and my finances ran dry. One day, after I had been actuallly hospitalized from stress, I couldn't pick up his child from school and he let me know that I was a complete disappointment to him, that I couldn't "deal with" parenthood, and that he "was mistaken" about how capable I was. The two of them passed me on the street this morning, holding hands, and he didn't even speak to me. Even the child, who used to call me "Mama" just stared at me with the same blank look on his face. I know where you are. I was hopsitalized again two months ago when he moved his babysitter in next door (she doesn't speak to me or my children as he told her not to, though we were best friends before). I asked him how he could do that to me when he told me she was moving and I wouldn't have to worry about her anymore. He said, "She did move. Next door." In the hopsital, that was the only concern: that I was going to kill myself. I thought, you have got to be kidding me? Who is this person in my body who appears suicidal over some guy? I get dead drunk every single day, to keep from shaking. I have nightmares about him every night. I hate his child, the symbol of his sickening hypocrisy who he is making into a clone of his dead hearted self. I know my days of actual violence are over, as I know i will be the one in jail if anything else happens between us, so I just sit here in misery, trying to pay a bill or make a phone call or do a load of laundry. Life is excruciating; I pray for justice, for the child to go back home so I don't have to look at them anymore, for money enough to move somewhere else, for freedom of any kind. I've actually gone so far as to put a spell on him (!) so that he will realize what he's done to me and feel sorry for once. Crazy! I still think that one day he will say, "Gosh, honey. I'm sorry about what happened." But every day he says something worse to blame me and to dig the knife in deeper. It's insane.
Jun 30 - 10AM (Reply to #26)
Happy1
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Helldweller

I feel for you because I think were in the same bad stage at this. I know what you mean by paying a bill or doing a load of laundry is so hard. It's the hardest thing in the world to get moving every day and I'm finding myself doing less and less every day. My son is being affected by all this and I feel a great amount of guilt that I'm a horrible mom too. Your N doesn't even try to fake love with you as mine doesn't with me. He is a huge as_s and I wish we could help one another more. I wish we lived close enough to help more but writing about it helps. I feel for your daughter but I know that she is so much better off with this N out of her and your life. My N is still around and my son and I are supposed to go to his boat this weekend. I am more miserable every day because I know he doesn't even care about me and is just using me. He uses me to buy him things and take his son to him on the boat and to drive the boat. He uses me for sex and has no affection for me whatsoever. He treats me like the enemy on a daily basis and sends wordy emails to other women but will not communicate or say hi to me during the day. I'm sick because I look forward to seeing him and don't know why. I spend my last dollar on this guy. I do anything he asks and anything he wants I do. I'm his pet. I wish you didn't live next door to him but maybe you can do something each time you see him. Like look the way. Don't respond when he says something. Give him the same cold as_s treatment he gives you. I'm here for you and I know what you are feeling. I wish I could take all this pain away. I wish we were wealthy and could go o some retreat and relax together and heal. I would do anything to help this go away.
Jun 30 - 4PM (Reply to #27)
helldweller
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sad1

God, I wish that too. When I go away, I do feel happy with my daughters, but I still wonder why we couldn't all be together. I walk through all the memories and try to beat myself over the head with the realiztion that none of it was real, but the thing that ruins it is that he did give his life to someone else: to this little kid who had nothing to do with him. I rationalize that the child is "safe" because he is a foster child and the N has no committment to him, but it doesn't make it hurt less when I see him in his lap and holding his hand and going out with him and kissing him. I know it's sick to be jealous of a poor little boy but I am so far beyond well it's not even funny. Is there any possible way you could just not go to the boat this weekend? I can't remember, are you in the States and it's the Fourth of July? We used to spend them together, too, at his friend's huge house with the pool and fireworks on the golf course and steaks and vodka flowing like water. My girls were on Cloud Nine and I was in his lap, covered in kisses. Every holiday sucks now; I just run away as far as I can go, and close the drapes in the morning so I don't see him and the child driving away to be the single dad and his orphan on the Fourth of July. Ugh. Sick. Can you even just say you're sick or a family member is sick and just not go, just for some breathing room? Or maybe just go and text your friends all day on your cell phone to mess with him and give yourself some power? I am out of ideas; I do wish we could have a big anti narc picnic this weekend. I wish you could just be with your son. What does your son think of him?
Jun 30 - 8PM (Reply to #28)
Happy1
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Helldweller

I'm in IL. What state are you in? I know exactly where you are with the jealousy of the foster child. He is showing him the affection you don't get and the attention you long for. I get it! I'm jealous of my N's son because even though he told me 2 years ago that he doesn't know how to love his son he has tried to make it look differently ever since. He is all about his son now and makes a huge production out of it. Look at me! I'm the super great single dad! Look at me! I'm the PTO President ladies and I'm also the Cub Master! Who wouldn't want me!!! He is fake and I hear his son say he loves him and my N responds he loves him too. I feel sick to my stomach each time he says it. I'm also jealous because I don't get an ounce of affection. No reaching over and touching me, no compliments, nothing! Zero! His son gets it and I get jealous of the poor child. It's wrong I know and I've really tried to rethink it. I wish I could get the courage to not go this weekend but I'm afraid of where I will be with myself if I don't. I don't trust my emotions right now and feel very obsessed with him. My son gets no attention from the N... well, I shouldn't say that. My son gets corrected by him. He pays no attention to my son unless he wants to correct him. This Friday he told me to bring my son later because he is taking his son on a tour of the plant he is a scientist at and it's a big deal that the managers gave him this permission but he can't take my son because he's not his. I told him that's fine but my son did ask to see his office because he's a scientist and he wanted to see a scientists office. My N went crazy on me this morning and said why did I even bring it up to my son. I was ticked. I wish we did have a 4th of July party with all of us! We would have more fun!!
Jul 1 - 10AM (Reply to #29)
helldweller
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sad1

Oh My GOD. They are the same, I swear. The N has done this a hundred times to my girls since he got the foster child. The first summer we were together, he said, "Let's go to the Air Show" here in Chicago. I made a beautiful picnic, we went to the Lake all day, played at the beach, had a fantastic time and went home and sat in the yard all night laughing and drinking wine. The next summer, after he got the child, I asked him about going again "like last year" and he said, "Can't. I have to work." I asked him if he and his child wanted to come over for pizza in the evening and he said, ok, but later. So they walk in the door at about 7, and I said to the child, "Hi, sweetheart! How was your day?" He said "Fun! We went on the boat and all the planes flew right over!" So he took his child to the Air Show on a politician friend's boat and lied so he wouldn't have to take us. When I freaked, he said, "There wasn't enough room for you." Same thing with trips to visit his friends all over the country: not enough room for us. They are on his own boat every weekend, but when I catch him lying about it he says, "we were just working on the boat" or "checking out storm damage at the lake." His brother volunteers at one of the big museums and always talked about taking us on a behind the scenes tour of it. Well, guess who's been on the tour and guess who hasn't? And guess who's been to his big alderman friend's beach house and petting zoo and who hasn't? The weirdest thing is how they "trade" us in for their own. He literallly traded us in for this strange child after knowing us for three years. He literally removed our photographs from his house and replaced them with photos of the child. He literally removed me from his lap and replaced me with the child. Seriously, one summer it was me in his lap and him saying, "My baby, I love you. Give me a kiss." And I swear to God the next summer it was the child in his lap and he said THE EXACT SAME THING to him but would not even hold my hand, make me a drink, or kiss me on the cheek. I'm in Chicago BTW
Jul 1 - 8PM (Reply to #30)
Happy1
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helldweller

I truly feel for you because I know your pain. It is horrible how he has treated you and I know how shocking it is to be discarded like that. I often feel very jealous my N's son who is my son's age and I cannot believe it. I know it's because he is showing the child everything I yearn for. I also get upset that he shows my son no attention (only when he is angry with him). I totally get where you're coming from. It's so wrong that we can be discarded as long as they have N supply elsewhere. I guess what confuses me on all this is how they can all have such similarities with this sickness they have. It's just hard for me to comprehend. They're so sick and so extremely cruel! I'm 40 miles West of Chicago so we are very close to one another. 8-)
Jun 29 - 6PM
Happy1
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Thank you all for your

Thank you all for your understanding and support. I feel like such a loser for continually letting him abuse me and I appreciate your support. I know this is a battle for me and I pray to God to help me be strong enough to do the NC. I know this weekend we're supposed to be together with the boys on his boat. My son is looking forward to it and I don't feel I have a life outside my N. I actually don't because I lost everyone over the last 2 years. I am very lonely. I thank you all and think you all are so wonderful and I'm so scared you guys are going to want to abandon me too. I feel like a child right now and not the strong person I thought I was.
Jun 29 - 10PM (Reply to #22)
Lisa E. Scott
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Sad1

Please don't apologize. We are not going to abandon you! Don't beat yourself up. That's the last thing you need. You need to treat yourself with loving kindness right now. We're here for you.
Jun 29 - 10PM (Reply to #21)
Lisa E. Scott
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Sad1

Please don't apologize. We are not going to abandon you! Don't beat yourself up. That's the last thing you need. You need to treat yourself with loving kindness right now. We're here for you.
Jun 29 - 1PM
girlfriday
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sad1

"I am a freak! A complete freak that has no dignity and self respect any longer I guess. I don't care about myself and only care about him. He is in my head day and night. What kind of steps can I take? I cannot go cold turkey NC because I go into complete panic mode and break it. God please help me." I am so sorry for what you are going through. I have been where you are. It's horrible. As someone else mentioned, you are addicted. Merriam-Webster defines addiction as: 2 : compulsive need for and use of a habit-forming substance (as heroin, nicotine, or alcohol) characterized by tolerance and by well-defined physiological symptoms upon withdrawal; broadly : persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful Sound familiar? Except the N is the "substance." We already know the Ns are bad and unhealthy for us. Yes, mine used NLP and speed-seduction on me which got me HOOKED. But regardless of what they did in the past or continue to do, we cannot control them. Ever. We can only control ourselves now that we know what they are. All of your focus is on him. (Been there.) You have to learn to bring that focus back to you and your OWN life. You have one. You now have to find the tools to start unearthing it. The message board is a great tool. Another tool that helped me at my worst was going to Codependents Anonymous meetings. The first step is: "We admitted that we are powerless over (insert N's name here). That our lives had become unmanageable." When I read that, I thought..."Well, that pretty much sums me up!" There, I started taking responsibility for my own thoughts and behaviors and learning healthy boundaries. I am suggesting that a 12-step program could perhaps be one tool in your arsenal that you haven't considered. I know it's not for everyone. And I hope this concept doesn't end up being a big debate here. But it resonated with me, so I figured it might resonate with others going through what I've been through. Take care of yourself.
Jun 30 - 8AM (Reply to #16)
curlygirl
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Support groups

Sad1 I have been where you are - I wish I could give you a hug, too. He's a monster and I relate completely to lying next to him crying while he sleeps. I think the hardest thing about having been with my N was how little respect I had for -myself- by the end. I was hooked and couldn't figure out why. I started going to coda, too. It has helped so, so, soooooo much. I wish there were a support group for N abuse, but there isn't. I read so many books by survivors and psychologists. I also read "Women Who Love Too Much" and a lot of it struck a chord with me. This was probably my second N - but he also had substance abuse issues and that's a problem I've come across before, too. I know that it has been discouraged on here before to talk about 12 step groups. I also accept, completely, that when it comes to Ns - anyone can be a sitting duck. They are master manipulators. But. I got some early training in my family of origin that geared me to put other people's feelings first and to be the caretaker. That's me. I also have a great therapist who knows about narcissism and she has really helped with the aftermath - and I had horrible ptsd symptoms that I treated with yoga and acupuncture. But the 12-step group and having a process to focus on that is mine, and helps me refocus on myself instead of the N, has been invaluable. Not for everybody - but I can't say enough about what it has done for me. Hugs, Curlygirl.
Jul 6 - 12AM (Reply to #18)
girlfriday
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"I know that it has been

"I know that it has been discouraged on here before to talk about 12 step groups." I hope that our individual healing processes are no longer discouraged here. I trust they will be tolerated now. We are here to heal, and there can be more than one way to do so. We cannot heal the N. Just ourselves.
Jul 6 - 11AM (Reply to #19)
Lisa E. Scott
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Girlfriday

"I know that it has been discouraged on here before to talk about 12 step groups. I hope that our individual healing processes are no longer discouraged here." Absolutely not! You can discuss whatever healing program or support group helps you. I've participated in 12 steps groups in the past and found them to be very helpful. I think each of us needs to find our own unique recovery path. What works for some, may not work for others and vice versa. Everyone is welcome to share what works for them as it may help another person still looking for the right treatment or support group. Please feel free to share. We no longer censor, ban or dictate what is said here.
Jun 30 - 8AM (Reply to #17)
Happy1
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Thanks curlygirl. I think I

Thanks curlygirl. I think I will see if they offer the codep groups in my area. I appreciate your help.
Jun 29 - 10PM (Reply to #15)
aceonelady
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substance

My ex N sent me an IM at the beginning of our relationship...My substance will be your sustenance...i thought what aweird thing to say....Now i know what that means...And that is why we all felt or feel..like we are substance addicts...just addicteds...And that is way is soooouverwhelming...don't blame yourself...They know what they do,they are Devils...

Aceonelady

Jun 29 - 10AM
Happy1
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thank you all for your

thank you all for your support. It helps hearing from all of you. I know I'm in a state of not moving again today. I cannot get up. I have nothing to look forward to and I know I'm miserable with and without this man. I feel it's all me now and not him. I feel he wants me gone and I won't let him get rid of me? How sad is this? OMG! My N wants me gone and I won't let him go. I have been seeing a therapist off and on for a year now and she says I'm brainwashed and he's the worst N she's ever heard of. Nothing is helping me though. I just feel like I'm to stupid to stop or something. I feel isolated and I feel like I'm an extension of him now. I don't exist anymore. I've never been consumed by anyone. I'm 38 and thought I was level headed and went through a lot with my 11 year marriage. I found out my ex was gay after 11years of marriage and we had a newborn boy. He encouraged me to quit my company of 11 years while I was pregnant and start my own restaurant. I had a new restaurant, a new baby and a gay husband that took off. I cried but I even packed him up and sent him his stuff. I was sad for a long time but I got through it and it was nothing compared to what this is. Nothing! I don't get it! I'm obsessed and fight with myself all the time on what I should do vs. what I'm doing. My feelings take over 100%. I've always been extremely sensitive and don't like conflict at all. I love to please others and don't want any enemies and will do anything for anyone. Actually, now I only do anything for my N. He has consumed me so I'm selfish when it comes to anyone else now. I know what he is and I cannot stop myself. His cruelty of me is insane and he is not affectionate at all. This is how bad it is now and I beg for more. Once I told him to just hit me rather than give me the silent treatment. I know how wrong that is. I really do. I don't see anything getting better. Thank you all for your support. Thank you so much for this board Lisa.
Jun 29 - 2PM (Reply to #13)
Lisa E. Scott
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Sad

Oh, I wish I could give you a big hug right now. You have been through so much. Believe me, the more you distance yourself from him, the easier it will be to see you want nothing to do with him. This is the hardest part. You're in the fog. Like Stayingstrong said, you don't have to do anything today. Just take care of yourself, let it out, and grieve the fake man you thought he was. This is the toughest part, I know, but it's also the only was to finding yourself again. This man has you brainwashed! The obsessive thoughts of him are exactly what he intended when he brainwashed you. The only way to break free is to follow the No Contact rule. However, first you have to get it out. If you haven't mourned or grieve yet, which I don't think you have because you are letting him back in, then please find an outlet to grieve - writing, coming hear, boxing, running, hitting a piloow, whatever it is, but be sure you do this. Only then, can you move to the next step of No Contact. Please know we are here for you and you are not alone. xoxo
Jun 29 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
Scoop
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"i feel like he wants me

"i feel like he wants me gone but i wont let him get rid of me "...this is a grown man who could easily say to you im sorry but i dont want to see you anymore . Do you think he feels sorry for you and that is why he lets you tag along to his boat , thats why he has sex with you ..... no... you foget he feels nothing he is a narc he has no feelings . he want you there to feed his pathtic ego , so grab every inch of suply you have , he enjoys you adoring him , he enjoys hurting you , he enjoys having sex with you etc .. man its so sick .. What a sick sick man . Keep strong, please no contact .
Jun 29 - 11AM (Reply to #11)
Janet
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Sad, you need to get out of

Sad, you need to get out of the situation ASAP. You are in danger from this creep. You need to get out and get back to a therapist. It will feel like you are going insane, like you cannot not live without him. You cannot live with him! There is nothing there. Do you have family or good friends close by? He will get worse and that is a frightening reality. I really, really feel for the place you are in but you NEED to get yourself out. Then NC until his hold is broken and you no longer feel his awful spell. Do yo have WWLPs? If not, get it. Good luck - be your bravest and best self. Peace. J

Peace. J

Jun 29 - 11AM (Reply to #10)
Steph
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I wish i could give you a

I wish i could give you a hug. You are not too stupid or anything else you think bad of yourself. You are a victim of a narcissist. This is the aftermath of what they do to us. Obsessive thoughts, depression, self loathing, blaming ourselves, cognitive dissonance and the list goes on. Don't worry that you can't get up today. That is ok. You reached out here and that's a great step. Keep reaching out. Keep talking about it. Nobody expects you to just be over it and move on just like that. Moving on is a process. A slow process. Sometimes a verrrrry sloooow process lol. I was off work for a month, couldn't leave my house, lost weight, started smoking again. We all know that feeling of having no will to do anything. As long as you continue no contact, it does get better. Just take it hour by hour. Read articles, journal, write us here.Get it off your chest. Cry. Maybe take a loooong hot shower. That's all you have to do today. Thinking of you. keep posting:) xoxo