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#1 Jan 18 - 7AM
HelpMeHeal
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Karma?

I have no plans to "seek revenge". I know better than to mess with a narc. However, I am wondering if karma ever makes them suffer? I have read a few articles where women have said these losers never seem to get punished for their evil ways. I want to hear a good karma story.... ie: narcs wife finds new boyfriend and leaves him without a pot to piss in, OW gets pregnant and he has to fess up to wife, loses his job because boss finds out he's fucking every breathing person he can get his paws on during work hours. Anyone have a karma story to share?

Jan 19 - 6PM
walking_on_sunshine
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I'm not set in my beliefs on

I'm not set in my beliefs on karma, I have no clue if it exists or not. However something really bad happened to my x while we were together and I kept telling him that a ha ha that its his karma a ha ha. Then about 3 weeks later, something really bad happened to me and I felt like shit for being as evil as he is, for enjoying his suffering.So I chalked it up to my karma for enjoying and relishing in his pain and suffering. Could all be random, but who knows right? Anything is possible I suppose. But if you believe in it then yes he got karma, but then so did I for enjoying it.
Jan 19 - 3PM
NarcJunkie
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I just read this...

The story is a good example of Karma (for all involved parties) and of how a narc operates and never changes his pattern over the years. This guy's pattern is long-term marriages while having an affair with the next potential wife, then dumping her as illness strikes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088692/Newt-Gingrich-affair-Ex-wife-Marianne-reveals-wanted-open-marriage.html
Jan 19 - 1AM
bgirl
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I call karma consequences. I

I call karma consequences. I brought about my own consequences by being truthful, living in the light so to speak. I forgive N. I know he won't have karma or consequences for what he intentionally set out to do to our family, BUT I let him into our family, MY responsibility to make amends the best I can for my role. So I don't wish for karma I wish for a miracle instead. I wish him and his family peace and contentment, so he never has to keep searching for it and then he has no need to inflict pain on anymore people. I know that his family blame me. They didn't want to know the truth on any level. They would like to see me dead. They even said it. So that's what we are dealing with here. Pure hatred. No wonder there are so many people living in turmoil...just so sad and such a waste.
Jan 18 - 7PM
I_Dated_Satan
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What goes around

comes around like a hula hoop... -Lil Wayne Yes. The OW got hers. She knew I was his GF of a year. She was married and she works with me. She was sleeping with him for one year and still is. Her husband found out and filed for divorce. She has to pay him child support because she was the bread winner and her reputation is shit in town as the cheater nurse practitioner. HE got a new GF as soon as she became single and still sees her on the side with his entourage and now she is single with two kids who are distraught about the divorce. I guess she thought he would be with her once she was single. That's out! Think again, LIL MAMMA....Karma is a bitch. Live well...do not seek revenge... It all comes back around. What am I crying about this POS for????? I ask myself this daily and him having the affair wasn't the worst that he's done to me.... Good grief...
Jan 18 - 7PM (Reply to #13)
Sparrow
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I_dated_satan, please

I_dated_satan, please remember, the OW is just like us, a victim or target of the narc. She may have never even considered doing what she had done if not for falling for the same exact illusion that we all fell for. It's hard to wrap your head around, honestly, I was there once myself. I hate to see you consume yourself with hatred towards her. We have to stay focused and know and understand why we are here, because of the NPD. He got to her too, used his charm, convinced her that he was the best thing since instant pudding, and she was willing to give up everything in order to have this complete and utter happiness that she only dreamed existed. Don't be surprised if you don't find her here one day. After he does to her what he did to you and the many women before you. My heart breaks for the children. And the anticipated D & D to her...............you didn't deserve this, I didn't deserve this, no one on this forum deserved it. Narcs suck.............period. :)
Jan 18 - 8PM (Reply to #14)
I_Dated_Satan
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Sparrow...I agree

Thank you. I needed to hear that because recently I have been directing my anger towards her and I have found only bitterness and heaviness in my heart and that is affecting my recovery. I appreciate you reminding me that she too was a victim. I do also feel for the kids. I had forgiven her and let it go at one time and I felt so much better. I know that it is time for me to let this go again.
Jan 18 - 10PM (Reply to #16)
HelpMeHeal
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In my situation, I AM one of

In my situation, I AM one of the other women and I am married. Trust me, the pain I feel for what I have done to my family is unbearable. I feel like I am serving karma now. Ladies, I was not looking to dance with the devil. He found me and asked me. It took 6 months to lure me to the dark side, but once I crossed, I was hooked. This went on for a year. I started to slowly understand him at 7 months. Now I know all of the lies he has said about his wife were just that - lies. I am not playing victim. I take complete accountibility for the worst decision I have ever made in my life. My "karma" question was definitely directed towards the narc only. The OW in addition to me are nameless and faceless. I try not to think of them, I just knew they existed. His predictability gave that away.
Jan 18 - 10PM (Reply to #15)
HelpMeHeal
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In my situation, I AM one of

In my situation, I AM one of the other women and I am married. Trust me, the pain I feel for what I have done to my family is unbearable. I feel like I am serving karma now. Ladies, I was not looking to dance with the devil. He found me and asked me. It took 6 months to lure me to the dark side, but once I crossed, I was hooked. This went on for a year. I started to slowly understand him at 7 months. Now I know all of the lies he has said about his wife were just that - lies. I am not playing victim. I take complete accountibility for the worst decision I have ever made in my life. My "karma" question was definitely directed towards the narc only. The OW in addition to me are nameless and faceless. I try not to think of them, I just knew they existed. His predictability gave that away.
Jan 18 - 3PM
Belle de jour
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I would never seek revenge

I would never seek revenge either, which means I wouldn't do something deliberately to cause him trouble or hurt him in any way (as if this would be possible...). But I have wished for the most terrible things to happen to him :( Believe me you would be surprised at how cruel my thoughts were. And I don't feel proud of myself, even though I was in great pain when I had those thoughts.... If any of these wishes came true, God, that would be horrible... and this would be a burden for me...So, be careful what you wish for. I agree with agnes when she says karma = bringing upon oneself the inevitable consequences of one's actions. What you give is what you get. For me, at this point and after a month of no contact, not knowing and not wanting to know anything about him works best.
Jan 18 - 12PM
agnesmurphy17
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karma

karma = bringing upon oneself the inevitable consequences of one's actions. A true N never finds himself responsible for anything. Even when caught & unmasked . . . NOPE! - N puts a 'spin' on the situation for his own advantage. A true N never has remorse or regret because he has no conscience or slef-awareness. A true N may realize that one cash cow was more flush with cash than the present cow. But, that realization will perhaps cause N to wander into a new pasture to seek yet another cash cow. Ns really are not 'attached' to the people. Others are merely a means to an end. However, sometimes there is satisfaction in knowing that those who surround N are beginning to realize that there may be something wrong with this guy. But, honestly, most people do not want to be involved. So, this is why one merely has to move on. Cut the losses & move on.
Jan 18 - 2PM (Reply to #10)
fooled no longer
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Agnes so true

Hi agnes. So nice to see you hear again ive been off the forum busy with my new life. Just dropped in to update . Hope you saw my update post. As you defibately got me through some bad times. So i absolutely agree with what you say here. They dont get fired, or have to eat humble pie ever, as they have no remorse. They dont selfexamine. They just continue to seek out and consume supply like vampires. However , my son did say to me; look at him ( my ex husband) he has no friends, he is getting old alone. I think he is paying now mom. Well all i can say is, Karma takes a long time, and you probably wont get to see it. The best revenge us getting on with your life. Your friends and family will probably never understand and they just say " move on" So im moving on. Love to you Agnes.
Jan 18 - 10AM
spinning
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HelpMe, I have come to a different

understanding and realization about karma and the disordered ones. The karmic "payback" I'm getting is when something wonderful happens to me. And this has happened several times. When I am touched lovingly by a non-disordered person. When I am laughing from deep inside my gut because I'm so joyous and happy. When I get a compliment from a stranger...it's how I view karma now. Each and every time something outstanding happens in my life, I say a little prayer of gratitude and I actually smile thinking "see you sick SOB! My life is GREAT...better than it ever was when you were in it...that's MY PAYBACK!" Disordered Freak Boy's Karmic payback is that he will never, ever get to interact, speak with or touch me in any way, shape or form again. That's satisfaction enough for me. Most sincerely, (not) spinning. FREAK BOY TRIED REALLY HARD BUT HE DIDN'T TAKE ME DOWN

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Jan 18 - 8AM
Sparrow
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I find no comfort in my karma

I find no comfort in my karma story........... My husband left me for the OW, I told him that they have no moral compass, and nothing good could ever come to them because of their selfish hurtful actions. I pictured them riding off into the sunset, loving life, while I was left to pick up the shattered pieces of mine. Not only the divorce, packing up the house, finding a new place to live, etc.......I had said out loud that I hope they suffer as I do. I wanted them to feel my pain. It wasn't fair that they be so happy and my life be turned upside down. Two months after he left, she was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer, had 5 surgeries in 16 months, including a double mastectomy. I did not wish this on her, my heart actually bleeds for her. No one should suffer in that manner. I lost one of my dearest friends to breast cancer and would never wish this on anyone, not even my worst enemy. The suffering I had hoped for, was heartbreak, the relationship not working, and them feeling the emotional pain that I felt. I never wanted this for her. I pray every day that she has a full recovery. I no longer wish for them to suffer emotionally. It's no longer important to me. My pain is over, I no longer suffer, and I don't need them to either. Indifference. My point being, yes, karma exists........but be careful what you wish for, because sometimes you get way more than you bargained for. Everything happens for a reason, and we have to trust our course, not fight it, ride the wave and see where it takes us. Everything always works out in the end, we don't need "revenge" to make things better. Everything takes care of itself is what I am trying to say.
Jan 18 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
Black Pearl
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Very wise words sparrow

Very wise words sparrow....... because they are very true.... made me cry.
Jan 18 - 10AM (Reply to #5)
HelpMeHeal
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Sparrow

I hope you don't feel guilty for any of your exiting comments to your ex. Certainly you were not wishing for illness to strike either of them..... Just that they'd get a dose of the shit they put you through. I do feel bad for the OW. He was probably putting her through emotional distress and her body manifested her illness at that very time. The mind body connection is very powerful in my opinion. Sad really.... That's why we can't let these maniacs drive us mad.
Jan 18 - 7PM (Reply to #6)
Sparrow
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Helpmeheal

Actually, knowing him, he didn't put her through any anguish, he doesn't roll like that. He is a calm, even keeled narc, believe it or not. He and I never had a disagreement, let alone a fight. Weird, but true. I have been told she had breast cancer before, and it was in remission for some time. I don't know for sure. But I can say for sure, if they are living like we did, it was bliss, calm, easy, stress-free. By design I am sure. I call him my "sleeper-narc" like the terrorists are called "sleepers", they live among us, and we have no idea what they are until it is too late. My 2nd narc...........full blown predator in every aspect. Just wanted to make sure that was known. :)
Jan 18 - 7AM
dabussard
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Yes

My Ex N lost a really good job two years ago because of his drinking. He will never be able to get another real job because he still drinks heavily daily... But, now he farms for a living and makes a whole lot less and has no insurance. But, he has a plan, the farmer that he works for is not marriend and has no children or siblings... So, the Narc has a plan to inherit this farm.. They get their karma, but they always seem to bounce back! And, this didn't change is ways at all... He is still a evil, lying, cheating piece of poop... lol...
Jan 18 - 8AM (Reply to #2)
Snowflake
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Sorry

But I am in a place right now where bad karma wishes feel good..its prob not right but have to be honest x
Jan 18 - 10AM (Reply to #3)
HelpMeHeal
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I would never wish illness

I would never wish illness especially cancer on anyone even an enemy. I am trying so hard to be the better person, get on with my life and whatever happens to him, happens. But, like snowflake, on my bad days, I do get a chuckle out of the thought that he could be annoyed. Having no ability to feel real emotion, I can't count on him feeling sadness about anything but if enough of his OWs and his wife give him a pain in the ass at the same time, I could see him feeling really aggravated and that's good for me. His wife is the breadwinner. He lied to me about job title and salary (shocker), so I'd love for her to stick it to him good. He needs her way more than she needs him.