Did any of you try to warn the OW when you were discarded?

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#1 Jan 15 - 11AM
zzcem
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Did any of you try to warn the OW when you were discarded?

I am curious to know if anyone did this? After two months of being broke up I tried to warn the OW this weekend when he put his Match profile back up looking for women in another town that he works in. Wrong move. She was not even phased. Even after professing to her friends that she was falling in love. Am I in the Twilight Zone? She told me that I need to grieve. WTF?

What I will say, and already know that it is obvious, is that I need to fully let go and move on NOW. This is not healthy. I am NOT proud of myself or my actions. I don't want to go back with him, but if I am even monitoring than I am not moving on. Why aren't I moving on? On the outside he is everything that I want, but on the inside I think that he is just plain evil and I know without a doubt that he is a serious somatic narcissist.

Very angry with myself and I know that I am going through the anger phase in general. I know it is not healthy, but I want to see the both of them emotionally hurt (that would only be possible for her though, not him). I never want to go back to being where I was two months ago (walking on egg shells, hot/cold treatments, silent treatments, multiple OW for almost two years!) and instead I just lowered myself today.

So today begins strict NO CONTACT and I urge everyone here to do the same. It is not worth losing our dignity over and we will NOT get the justification we are looking for. Time takes care of everything and karma also takes time.

Jan 17 - 6AM
wannaletgo22
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no point on warning new supply/OW

My feeling is only to contact OW if doing so provides you with closure or some piece of info. you need to cut the tie to your N. I don't think forwarning new OW (once you have already figured out what's going on) falls into that category. They are still in the honeymoon phase...and like you said, they don't want to hear what you have to say...and he will easily paint you crazy and jelous. Why continue to involve ourselves in all the crazy drama once we are out?? Let new supply/new OW come to you at some point down the road if they are looking for answers. I did speak with exN's girlfriend once (I was newer supply/OW- she had been with him for four years- I was with him for a year)- I called b/c I was suspicious of his relationship with her, but he would not be straightforward with me about it (suprise, suprise)...and I NEEDED TO KNOW for myself...so I would know I wasn't crazy and could finally, finally start putting an end to all the BS. Yes, in this case, the truth set me free. BUT- if she had called me earlier on to warm me about him....when he was still laying on the charm....I dunno...I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have believed her. I had to figure it out on my own time---I think we all do unfortunately. And the sad thing is that the truth still hasn't set her free from his clutches. Even though she believed me (and is aware of other women he has cheated with), she still hasn't left him. Sometimes, I think about calling her again to let her know that he still contacts me after everything- has zero remorse for the pain he caused us all (me, her, and their son). But I don't b/c she has to get there herself...and I have to protect myself and look out for me at a certain point. And I do not want to wake the beast (him). But I would certainly be there if she needed me at any point.
Jan 17 - 6AM (Reply to #17)
zzcem
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wannaletgo22 you are probably right.

She seemed to have listened and cut him, but I just feel really bad about saying anything at all. Funny how we do something small and we feel remorse/guilt, but they do horrible things over and over and never feel even the slightest remorse. To have forwarded her his online dating profile was just another way to keep contact. It just made me sick knowing what he was doing and that she was completely oblivious to it. In any event, he is no longer my problem. He will in life continue to hurt every single woman he is with with absolutely no empathy. This just proved that to me. I have to move on now and be grateful to be out of that horrible, toxic mess!
Jan 17 - 9AM (Reply to #18)
wannaletgo22
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zzcem

I hear you on all the above- seeing he has zero remorse...that kills me too...and when I think about that, that's when I want to forward his girlfriend all the texts and emails he has sent me since he was caught. But I've finally accepted that he will never change...he doesn't feel bad...he doesn't care...anything I do, isn't going to change that. He has a personality disorder- he had it before I met him and he will have it forever thereafter. It's not about me and def. not something I can control or influence. If we get one OW to see the light, he'll just move on to the next one----and he'll make sure you know about it! B/c trust me, they want us to know who is boss, that they can't be controlled- it's a game to a certain degree. And it's a game where the cards are stacked against us- we will always lose- so better to just let it go and refrain from playing anymore. We can feel bad for the others, but ultimately we are all responsible for ourselves and ourselves alone. And it's time to look out for number one. B/c like you said, trying to warn OW is ultimately, in some way, a means of maintaining our connectionto the N and his drama. We just need to move on. But it's so hard....hang in there!!!
Jan 16 - 5PM
Gravity
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zzcem

I had a great experience telling the OW. We both found a lot of closure from the situation because he was playing both of us badly. I got veeery lucky though. It could have gone very badly.
Jan 16 - 4PM
prettypeeved
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At that point I hadn't really

At that point I hadn't really begun to suss him out. Just out of the blue he turned all peculiar and buggered off with the OM. It was THEN that I began to see what he was really like. He dropped the ball where I was concerned because he thought I was surplus to requirements and anyway, he could always get me back if he needed to, right? That was when I saw his nasty attitude with my own eyes, because the mask came off. Not only that, all the rumours started reaching me on the grapevine. Since then, if anyone brings him up in that context, I will warn them of how badly he treated me. If they don't take any notice, that's their mistake.
Jan 16 - 7AM
zzcem
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Surprisingly it seems that she did

dump him and guess what - - he left his Match.com profile up. I went through over 2 months of wondering if maybe she was different. Even though I knew what he was and everyone on here told me that things would be no different with her. Well if all of this proved anything to me it is that he is without a doubt a SOMATIC NARCISSIST in CONSTANT need of female adoration and supply - - with ALL of them being inanimate objects!! He will NEVER change and it does not matter who the woman is or what the circumstances are - - it will ALWAYS have the EXACT same dynamics with the really big factors being deception and pathological lying. Now he is on Match.com looking for women in two different cities!!! THANK YOU GOD THAT I AM OUT OF THIS TOXIC RELATIONSHIP! Now I have to let it all go completely, accept 110% and focus on loving myself so that I never make this mistake with a man in the future. Actually funny about that. I met a man a year ago, but because we were both going in and out of a relationship we only went out about 6 months after we met. I could not get involved because my heart was not in it. Then a couple of weeks ago we went out. Although I really liked him I saw red flags and cut communication. Proud of myself for that. That is not something I would have done in the past. And one other thing (sorry this is a long post!). I thought it would hurt like hell to see his profile back up, but it doesn't hurt. For some weird reason I feel relief and optimism! :)
Jan 16 - 10AM (Reply to #13)
IncognitoBurrito
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Whoa!

I can't +1 this enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jan 15 - 10PM
Dee30
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I did

After the first D&D..I stupidly wanted to meet him and talk things over after he replaced me with the OW. Well he disgustingly had no problem trying to feel me up on our meeting which I firmly said NO you are with her now. He replied well kissing is okay..can u belive that? Well I told the OW about it cuz i was preety pissed off he thought he could do anything with me. She seem slightly angry with him. But then he just said to her "baby she's trying to break us up" and there you go. Like butter he smoothed her over. Well 6 months later he D&D her for me once again which I ridicously fell for...but that goes to show you that just gives them TONS of NS. two women pawning over him. More than likely she's at the honeymoon phase where she think hes\'s God gift to woman, and with his manipulative and charming ways she won't listen anyways. More than likely she will team up against you and it will be like a double shot for you. Definetley do NOT recommend it. Let him be. I already gave that jerk so much NS it makes me sick thinking about it, especially between me and his ex, the bouncing back and forth and him gloating over the fact when he discarded one, the other would be swayed by his "love" and will tell off the other... it's mad sickening
Jan 15 - 9PM
janemarie
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I wrote her an email....very

I wrote her an email....very classy, mature, not judging, warm heartfelt email....telling her what he did to me...the heartache Im enduring....I told her to research and educate herself on Narc...and to stay on guard....I also told her what he will do if she ever tries to leave him (I totally ruined his game) Her response was...."I dont know who you are, he's never mentioned you to me" I said, "yeah, ok..just be careful" I did this within the first 2 weeks of our split, before i began the no contact. I did it because the Narcs exgf wrote me an email in the beginning and although I didnt listen, she planted the seed so I alwyas questioned things in my head when things just didnt seem right.....I simply wanted to plant the seed for her so he wont get away with what he does anymore,.. As far as i know....they are still together.... I do NOT recommend doing this once you have started your NC. I did this before I knew anything about Narc...and what I did was feed his ego by writing about him....Im sure it pleased him!!!
Jan 15 - 6PM
Redhead
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OW

The OW (the one I know about)& I knew each other. She is a coworker of his. She & her now ex-husband had attended parties at our house. She gave me & us gifts. When I realized what was going on, I confronted narc & he said they were just friends, that he will end their friendship & he wanted to make our marriage work. Then a friend of mine caught them out together the next weekend. I was so angry & out of control, I called her & yelled at her. That of course was a mistake. She turned it around on me...denied everything & called me abusive. After the fog began to lift, I realized that he has been projecting his abusive behavior onto me.
Jan 15 - 8PM (Reply to #9)
Run4it
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Same here....

OW was married and her husband was a friend of both of us. We had them over for dinner. Narc was shagging her and I confronted her - denial and then she pulled the "Christian" card on me. Hypocrite of the worst kind. She divorced within 3 weeks of my break up and NC. Bought a house right down the street from him. Still together but also still sneak and keep it gross.
Jan 15 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
bgirl
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Redhead they are the most

Redhead they are the most disgraceful manipulators out aren't they? My daughter was a teammate of his son. N encouraged them to be such close friends. My children went on tour to Japan for soccer. Whilst there my daughter spent her own money on a jersey for his son and we bought them some soccer related gifts. I am very generous...too caring and willing to give. He knew this and exploited it. When we exposed it to his wife....he then turned everything around... Said I gave them gifts, I wanted him first, I chased.....omg they are so smart. He got me there. We did give them presents. It was prior to the relationship developing. He set me and my children up like a pro. He is the master...he has convinced her that we are the instigators....scary what they can do...truly scary.
Jan 15 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
Redhead
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Bgirl

Yes, yes....they are master manipulators. I feel like we are pawns in a chess game.
Jan 15 - 12PM
IncognitoBurrito
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the discarded vs the future discard

Why should she be phased, right? She hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of who he really is, yet. She has no clue. She's where we were in the beginning stages. All he has to do is lie to her, about you, and lie to her about his match profile, and everything's smoothed over. All he has to do is say,"Baby, that profile was up before I met you. I can take it down if you'd like?" (at which point he probably put his profile on "hidden" or takes it down, temporarily.) You know the deal, she doesn't. The sad thing is, instead of taking what you say as a serious warning, she's going to be swayed by his mouth, and what he says about you, because she doesn't know you. She's thinks she's found love! All your good intentions are going to do is come back to bite you. In the end, the N is going wind up with a grin about the whole damn thing. Let it go, let her learn the lesson we have, in her own time. We wouldn't have listened to an OW, either. Don't feed into it and give the N a reason to think he can now triangulate the both of you. xo
Jan 17 - 6AM (Reply to #5)
wannaletgo22
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yup

exactly...
Jan 15 - 11AM
Fearless
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zzcem..don't be so hard on yourself

I considered doing the very same thing. I have a letter to her addressed and stamped in my junk drawer in the kitchen. It contains all types of info on Narcissism and was going to send it to her. She will most likely through it away...she's his new supply and under his "spell" right now. The information I would give her would be useless because he will convince her with his lies and expert manipulative skills that he is in no way a narcissist and she will believe, rationalize, and just blow off any advice given to her. Eventually and unfortunately this OW will have to find out in due time through her own experience with him...my ex. He could be the poster child for Narcissism...I was with him for 7 years on one of the most devasting roller coaster rides I had ever allowed myself to hop on. I truly am fortunate at this point to even be alive.

FeFe

Jan 15 - 9PM (Reply to #3)
janemarie
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I was warned....I didnt

I was warned....I didnt listen....that's how good these bastard Narcs are.... It would be a waste of time to send it and it would feed the Narcs ego... Dont feed the beast!
Jan 15 - 12PM (Reply to #2)
Run4it
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Hmmmm

Early on, I had that wonderful letter that I found on this website sent to her email anonymously. It is the one that tells her she is no different etc. Duh, she is still with him. Not our job to warn them and it will do no good at all. I was warned that he was "controlling" etc and still dove head first. OW has young children. I hate it for her...