A shift in rumination..

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#1 Sep 24 - 10PM
Sunafterrain
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A shift in rumination..

I have been triggered up one side and down the other and most of you know why. When this happens, once I calm down some, usually DAYS after a trigger starts the ruminating, I begin to feel that the ruminating is also my mind telling me that more is coming up for me to process and deal with. So today, I've been allowing the thoughts and flashbacks to flow through my mind, rather than fighting them.

What I'm discovering is that my mind is shifting. I'm not sad any longer that he's gone, I'm sad about the ABUSE that I took. There are no more good memories coming. They are flashbacks of specific traumatic abusive behaviors during the relationship. I believe this is an answer to prayer and a gift. I feel like bursting into tears when these flashbacks come. With him, there was no time to process each abusive incident that was horrid in nature. I feel that I'm purging the abuse.

I wonder, has anyone experienced this? And further, what did it mean to you if you did?

Sep 25 - 12PM
faithinthefuture
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Sun

you are turning a very important corner. Keep going & don't look back! ALL I see in the memories, even the ones I thought were real compared to those when I looked at him & was like WTF is wrong with you, I see nothing but being used & lied to and I know they were all fake on his part. THAT'S A HUGE STEP IN HEALING!! At almost 19 months NC I am still processing the whole damn experience. But now I'm focusing on me & why I put up with what I did. Having to dig way down deep looking for answers. I'm getting there. I told a friend yesterday this has changed me. I will never be that person I was when this all started. But that's ok. I'm going to be better. And stronger and wiser. She told me I have always been one of the strongest women she has ever known. I was like ahh no I became very weak and I lost me. It's these AHA moments that help us to see clearly. Wanting soo much more for ouselves.
Sep 25 - 10AM
Pride and Shame
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Cathartic Step

This seems really cathartic. Your tears are literally cleansing you. After the intense anger and the overwhelming loss/grief, which came and went several times, I felt what you are describing. It may even be where I am now. Situations where I was unjustly criticized, hurtful comments, belittling of my activities and accomplishments - I think I repressed them at the time and am now experiencing those feelings in full. It is exhausting, isn't it? I go to sleep worn out and it's all emotional.
Sep 25 - 10AM
Hunter
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Sun

You get this gig!! Just roll with it!! It's a process, it's a deep wound and it takes time to heal! Hunter
Sep 25 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
Sunafterrain
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Hunter?

Gig? In that case, I'd rather be at a Led Zeppelin concert!
Sep 25 - 11AM (Reply to #10)
Hunter
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Naw, my guess is Robert Plant

Naw, my guess is Robert Plant is a narc too!! Stay the course my friend! Hunter
Sep 25 - 11AM (Reply to #11)
Sunafterrain
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LOL! Well, who the hell isn't

LOL! Well, who the hell isn't these days, when it comes to the rich and famous.
Sep 25 - 10AM
Sunafterrain
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Winter

I appreciate your input and validation via sharing your own experience. One of my good friends last night, after sharing about this shift, said to me, "This is a good sign. It means the cog/dis has stopped and you know it was all lies and who he is, without a doubt". I believe that to be true. I've also noticed, while letting the thoughts and flashbacks flow through my mind, that there is a REASON for the ruminating..and alot of it has NOTHING to do with him. I'm starting back to school again tomorrow (I have six kids winter lol!), and I'm SCARED shitless! I'm just about done with my degree, so I sit and think, can I do this? Am I smart enough? Will I fail? UGH. I'm making decisions to move forward, and I am moving forward, but for the first time in my life, I realize how ALONE I am in doing it and THAT is very scary for me!
Sep 25 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
Winter
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Sunafterrain

Six kids? But how did you manage to raise them? I mean it is such a hard work. I have only two, I love them, but it is so demanding! I really, really do admire you! I read somewhere that rumination and CD is a compulsive mental gymnastic which we use to protect ourselves from feeling our pain. Means when we stop, we are ready to face the reality without fear. This is definitely another stage. Good luck with your first day of school tomorrow! Winter
Sep 25 - 2PM (Reply to #7)
Sunafterrain
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Winter

Funny you should ask. when I'm with my grandchildren, as much energy as they have, it wears me OUT after a day with them, even though I love it. I have another daughter who is expecting in March. She's going through the morning sickness stuff right now and is miserable. I see both my daughter's as Mom's and upcoming Mom's and I think "Lawdy! How did I do it with six?" I guess the simple answer is ya just do it! I think there is truth to the reasons for CD that you state. I don't fear reality anymore, but I do fear the intensity of the pain and the loneliness.
Sep 25 - 11AM (Reply to #5)
Pride and Shame
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Yes, SUN, you are ...

Yes, you are smart enough! We all know you are. Most importantly, you get to answer that one for yourself!
Sep 25 - 9AM
Winter
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Yes. I did experience it. And

Yes. I did experience it. And I still do sometimes, but much less than before. And it definitely means you are moving on. I think the next step is to take the blame out of you and forgive yourself for not matching the person you wished you have been in this relationship. I think that the sadness and hurt inflicted by their abuse is something that we also did experience while we were with them. But we were in denial. And in order to get rid of this highly unpleasant feeling, we wanted THEM to prove us wrong. Every time they gave us a little hint that they loved us, did not abuse us, we felt immediately great, joyful and happy. That was the hook: they did inflict the pain and they did relieve it. It was not a real joy; it was just a pain relief. That is why people struggle so much with NC. They want their immediate pain relief they got used to have. But it does not come from anywhere. We realize that we need to find the resources within us. I think that this is the first shift. It is painful and scaring; we lost this ability always “relying” on them to rescue us from the pain. But again, it was the addiction and not your conscious choice to put up with his abuse. ADDICTION IS NOT A CHOICE. So, please, as much as you can try to not blame yourself, do not be so harsh to yourself. You broke the addiction, you staid NC for so long! Alone with five kids? Back to school? WOW, I mean really WOW. I have so much admiration for your strength! You have so much reason for admire and love yourself. Love Winter
Sep 25 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
Pride and Shame
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Perfectly Stated

"That is why people struggle so much with NC. They want their immediate pain relief they got used to have. But it does not come from anywhere. We realize that we need to find the resources within us. I think that this is the first shift." This is perfectly stated.... sooooooooooooooooo hard in practice, but perfectly stated!
Sep 25 - 9AM
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Yes I can relate to that so

Yes I can relate to that so very clearly, sadly. I think ive figured it out what exactly makes me so sad. Just this morning when reading this forum again it suddenly came clear to me of the things I've read here and of my latest experiences with my N that what our 'relationship' is really all about. What he uses me for is to project all his negative dark side on me and then 'attacking' it, but by doing that in reality attacking me, and by doing that he is able to keep his own relationship with his gf happy. So in a way I'm helping their relationship to flourish by absorbing all the evil out of it. But of course I fell for him in his idealisation stage. But he used me this way, made his own relationship better, ruining my relationship with my bf in the process, whilst he doesn't have any feelings for me whatsoever - all this realisation hurts so much, so much that I feel so sad, deep sadness that consumes all energy nothing left for hate or anger.. So sad that I let it happen to me.. I feel emotionally raped..