Barbies and Boundariesâ„¢

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#1 Jul 30 - 1PM
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Barbies and Boundariesâ„¢

Ok, this post will be an attempt to compile helldweller's observations about how it is eery we are all alike (beautiful, caring, empathetic, loving), bettoff's barbie comments, and all of the posts about us being treated like objects....and the crazy boundary violation issues I've been dealing with.

This is the Story about Ken and his Game of Barbies!

Ken loves to play Barbies! The more Barbies the better! It is a very fun game in which he gets to define his own game of Play-Acting and chooses his Barbies based on just three qualities (at least these are the three my Ken- N uses) :
- Barbie must have a beautiful body (e.g. marathon runners are perfect) since Barbie is either used for sex or as arm candy.
- Barbie must have some unique quality so that Ken can use these Barbies for different roles in his play! Ken has Dr. Barbie, Philathropist Barbie, Marathon Barbie, Hawaii Barbie, CEO Barbie, Soulmate Barbie, Nasty Barbie and lots and lots of other very fun Barbies so that his game is well rounded.
- These Barbies all have different values, life goals, nationalities, cultural backgrounds, religious beliefs, and family statuses. You see none of this matters, because these Barbies are not chosen as a long term mates where these things would matter - it only matters if Barbie is pretty and has something unique about her and is fun to play with. Ken is really only interested if he CAN secure each Barbie for his collection. He really doesn't care about KEEPING Barbie LONG TERM. COLLECTING Barbies is what is most fun to him!
- Must be fun to play with. In order to be fun to play with, the Barbies must be caring, empathic, trusting, loving and patient and very, very tolerant so that she is OK playing the same Ken game over and over and over. And it really helps (as Klarity Belle pointed out) for Barbie to be previously abused in childhood so that Barbie is primed to play this game with Ken.

The Ken game works like this.... Ken gets to pull down Barbie whenever he wants to play and Barbie must play the role that Ken has defined. For instance, I used to be Soulmate Barbie, but then Ken decided that it would be totally cool for me to play CEO Barbie! So he put a briefcase in my hand and told me I was now CEO Barbie and he changed my play-act role so that I could no longer be Soulmate Barbie. In the meantime, he found a different Barbie to play Soulmate Barbie.

But Ken doesn't tell his Barbies when he changes their roles...because it is, of course, his Game...so the Barbies don't need to know! They are Barbies - not real people! Of course, when CEO Barbie got hurt that she was no longer Soulmate Barbie... Ken said "bad, bad Barbie" "You are Violating my Boundariesâ„¢"

You see, this is all a game that Ken defines. He defines the Rules and the Rules can change at anytime, without prior notice. It is his Game of Barbies.... we are merely the Barbies in his game. And the rules/boundaries aren't really based on Moral Norms. Otherwise, the rules would be the same for all married Barbies and they would match Moral Standards. But since the rules are different for each married Barbie depending on the game Ken is playing at the time...it becomes more clear that Ken believes he is God and that he can be self righteous about proclaiming that he has clear vision of the Boundaries and that they are based on his "Moral Code".

Each day, Ken plays with his little Barbies, taking them off the shelf as he sees fit and doing a variety of things to them. CEO Barbie is super fun because he can flirt with her all day at work and communicate with her all day under the guise of "working together". He can even take her out for Romantic dinners and walks on the beach because he loves how she inflates his ego and he feels important with her.

From time to time, all of this play acting breaks something on the Barbies. The Barbie may lose a shoe, break an arm, or in the case of CEO Barbie, she may gain a few pounds from working so hard to support Ken....she works late while Ken leaves at 4pm each day to work out to maintain his Ken figure and shop for more Barbies.

So when CEO Barbie gains those pounds and rips her clothes, or accidently steps on Ken's toes....she is not perfect anymore. Ken strips her of all her clothes and accessories and throws her into the pile in the corner of the closet with all of the other dead, naked Barbies....because she is of no use to him anymore....and he wants all of her stuff for the Barbies he is still playing with as well as the new Barbies to come!

Make sense?

Dec 4 - 2PM
ACgirl
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Bravo!! You made my day, Loveofmylife!!

This story was so perfect!! With each Barbie you wrote I was feeling my pain start to drip away. You nailed it. What you wrote was so true. You almost spelled out the Barbies, (the OW), that my Narc had. He had a marathon Barbie and a Hawaii Barbie, and a Barbie with family money, etc. OMG you nailed it. And the way you described the game was perfect. Those SOB's have NO boundaries. When I read these great posts it reminds me that I am SO doing the right thing by NC. Your post was so spot on and enlightening. Thank you so much!! xoxoACgirl
Dec 4 - 5PM (Reply to #39)
loveofmylife
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acgirl

I think our guys were very similar.. xoxoxxo to you. I hope you are doing better. how long has your no contact been? Mine has been since July 5th - 5 months. I still cry almost every day and feel like I'm going to have a panic attack any minute. I miss him soooooo much; I feel very lost and am not sure who I am since he was a HUGE part of my last 23 years; but I know it is not good for me. He, of course, is dating a beautiful, intelligent, ivy-league educated woman that owns her own production company and has a marathon runner body again (the only common denominator with all of his barbies. if you do not have a lean, mean body at age 50, you are no good, which is why I got the boot when I gained 10 pounds.) Anyway, I keep having to read, read, read so that I am not tempting to contact him, but it is hard. time to move on with my own life! Hope you are well, I think our NCs happened at about the same time.
Dec 4 - 8PM (Reply to #40)
ACgirl
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Hi LoveOfMyLife, my NC has

Hi LoveOfMyLife, my NC has been since about September. I fell off the wagon but I felt I was in charge when I did that. It was very risky and I shouldn't have done that. Yes, I think our Narcs were similar, that's why I loved your Barbie post. It felt so real to me. I miss mine too, and I feel lost and terribly sad sometimes. But what is different now is that I feel so much more in control because I KNOW it's him who is really the mess and problem, not me. The turning point for me was when I gained my self confidence back and I decided to turn all my energy into my work and making me feel good. Speaking of marathon bodies, my selfish and insensitive (need I describe) Narc always talked about this mile high waitress who ran marathons and he even dated her. I was so sick and tired of hearing how he ran marathons with her that I decided to put on some sneakers and do that myself. So I did. HAH LOL!! I ran my first half marathon a few months ago and I run 5 miles almost everyday and 10 miles on the weekends. I am in my forties and my body has really gotten better. As well, I am doing good with my work. So I decided to make myself feel good and put my energy into me!! The great thing is that I am running for me, not for him. I wanted to feel good and running so helps with stress. The other thing that helped was, and this may sound silly, but I went to a really good psychic and she told me that I had to get rid of the toxic energy around me so that I could really meet the right man. So, in many ways I feel that I have no choice anymore. I feel I have to let this narc pass, just like stones!! She told me to get him out of my system as soon as possible or I might miss out on the great man that I am supposed to meet. So at night, before I go to sleep, I think of who that man might be and where is he right now. We need to try and do whatever we can to walk away. The bottom line, and something I always say to myself.... he wasn't real, I was just watching a movie in 3D. And, like you, I read on this sight almost every day. I feel I have to. It keeps me strong. We must be strong. I am so sorry you are sad too.... 23 years is such a long time. But be thankful you are free now to meet the right man, the man who will love you and cherish you. He is out there for you. Sending you love xoxoACgirl
Dec 4 - 9PM (Reply to #41)
loveofmylife
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our guys are the same

Yes, I remember when yours tried to lure you back and as I recall he took you for a walk on the beach and romanced you and you thought it was going to start all back up again and then he never called back (and was back with the bimbos) I actually posted the Barbies post for you then, because mine also did the romancing walk on the beach thing and then pretended like nothing happened and I was delusional (the start of the gaslighting!) When yours took you on the beach and then disappeared, I remember you were torn apart and everyone was begging you to cut him off - so I'm glad you did. Would love to talk to you by phone...if you would like, drop Betty an email. I have always felt that our Narcs were very similar and that we were both so bonded to them and loved them so unconditionally, only to be narc-ed... We also find out that they have "multiple monogamous" relationships going on. Only a narc can redefine the word monogamous as a one-to-many relationship and somehow get away with it and fool everyone involved!
Dec 4 - 10PM (Reply to #42)
ACgirl
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A Narc is a narc LOL!!

I would like that. Yeah, my ex-narc is so text book and predictable, but I didn't know what a "narc" was until I found this site this year. If I would have known this, it might have ended a lot earlier because I would have understood what was happening and what I was dealing with and I would have cut it off sooner. You have a great memory. Yep, he took me on that beach walk and then disappeared. He did that a few times this year. What was hard to deal with was how close we were for so long, all the years, then suddenly he meets the new OW but still is holding on to me?? I guess I came from the school that when someone says they love you they mean it. Not with a narc. How in the dark was I?? That's why I loved your Barbie story. What happened with you? Is your story posted and if so, how do I read it? I never really wrote my story. Maybe I should. Maybe it would be good therapy. xoxoACgirl
Dec 4 - 11PM (Reply to #43)
loveofmylife
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my story

yes, mine is written... you can click on the subject in the my story section and sort them. Best way to find the old ones.
Dec 4 - 9AM
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Bumped up for StillHurting

Stillhurting...I've seen a few of our posts and I think our stories may be similar...but a can't find your story - can you bump it?
Oct 17 - 12AM
lisalisa47
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awesome analogy

:) LML

LML

Oct 16 - 11PM
loveofmylife
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bump

for these newbies struggling with the object thing snd finding out about other women.
Aug 3 - 8PM
Lisa E. Scott
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Loveofmylife

Wow, you definitely need to copyright this, Loveofmylife!!!!!!! Barbies & Boundaries. I love it! Sorry I'm just reading this now, but I'm behind on the board. I apologize, but it's been busy and I will be traveling for work soon, which will make it almost impossible to check-in, even at night. You all amaze me with your intelligence, wit and compassion. I haven't been able to log-on all day, but I come here and see things are moving along just fine, better than fine. You are all so supportive of one another. I love it. I love you! xoxo
Aug 3 - 8PM (Reply to #33)
loveofmylife
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Thanks Lisa

Yes, I do believe that I adhered to the proper copyright laws entitling my article Barbies and Boundariesâ„¢ Please inform me if you become aware of any trademark violations.
Aug 3 - 11PM (Reply to #34)
Lisa E. Scott
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loveofmylife

LMFAO! You got it! :)
Aug 3 - 6PM
sarahb
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I love it!

I love it! This make so much sense!
Jul 30 - 9PM
grossot
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loveofmylife

I love this! Well put! http://hubpages.com/hub/Married-to-a-Narcissist?preview nolongercontrolled
Jul 30 - 9PM
Kelly
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Oh . . . one other thing

Ken had no balls . . .
Jul 30 - 10PM (Reply to #29)
loveofmylife
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NO balls

Hmmmmm.....good point. Men with real balls don't lead on/play with women....they commit to one woman and support her through thick and thin and provide for his family! (wife included) Perhaps we should start a thread of "Real Men have Balls" and discuss what real men do....similar to "you know you are a redneck if..."
Jul 30 - 9PM
Kelly
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OMG This is brilliant!

Genius! Inspired! And I just love the irony. Women were once little girls playing with barbies imagining themselves as women. Eventually, we put the barbies down as we begin to mature. Then the guys end up playing with the barbies . . . except we are real and the narcissistic men can't see that.
Jul 30 - 5PM
Susan32
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Resurrection Barbies

And what can Ken DO when some of the Barbies (TM) that he's dismembered come back out of the closet, healthy and happy, cleaner and more joyful than before???* I'm not talking Zombie Barbie (TM), Ghost Barbie (TM) or Vampire Barbie (TM) that are various species of the Walking Dead(TM). Perhaps Ken's Ideal Woman would be Caprica Six--she's taller than him, blonde, emotionless, and A ROBOT! *Maybe they came off of the Resurrection Ship. Sorry for mixing canons ;)
Jul 30 - 4PM
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I was CEO

Oh my goodness how funny!!! You hit it on the head about the CEO Barbie(of course I started as soulmate Barbie)---I gained the pounds also, 10 of them that for a while was oh it's ok then suddenly ugh all of a sudden my shirt was too tight. Still trying to figure out why I didn't see all those other Barbies til now---seriously they were there all along but my eyes were shut. Makes me seriously sick to think about my moments of ignorance. Like really did everybody out there in fairy tale land know but me? Did they think, "poor girl is she really that stupid?" I was their immediate supervisor---guess they were really loving that feelling, he was my sup and I was theirs but since he was being their Ken it didn't really matter what I thought. Love the analogy.
Jul 30 - 2PM
ClusterF
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Yes, not to digress

LOML, you know you have a great analogy when people can just run with it. Good point, M.
Jul 30 - 2PM
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loveofmylife

beautifully written. Notice that Barbie had all the careers--and what did Ken do?
Jul 30 - 10PM (Reply to #23)
loveofmylife
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What did Ken do?

That is a very good question. All Ken does is pump up Barbie and make her feel special and then she does everything else for him! In looking back on it, KeN said "hey, let's find an opportunity to work together!" And then CEO Barbie, given that she was thrilled that the loveofherlife wanted to spend all day with her, setup all of the meetings, networking, etc, etc, etc and invited KeN, even though KeN lived in the area and did this work for 10 years and CEO Barbie only moved to the area one month earlier. CEO Barbie found the work, got the work and then brought in KeN. KeN continued to lather up Barbie so that she would keep him around, even gave him a referernce for another job and brought him back when the other one didn't work out. Also, CEO Barbie did not accept pay so that KeN could receive his pay.... My best friend suggested the other day that perhaps this is a pattern for KeN.... perhaps he has always lured women and then had them help him find a job... I think I'm just starting to find out things about KeN I could have never in my wildest dreams imagined about him. I always thought he was the most virtous person I'd ever met and ironically, that was my biggest attraction to him!!!!!
Jul 30 - 2PM (Reply to #20)
better off
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Yeah! Ken is a loser! Ken's

Yeah! Ken is a loser! Ken's always just sitting around at Barbie's townhouse and driving her Corvette. Seriously... when I was little, my Barbies were secretly playing with my brother's GI Joe. At least he had a job and his own jeep. And Kung Fu grip.
Jul 30 - 4PM (Reply to #22)
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GI JOE

Betteroff--- I did the same thing too!
Jul 30 - 2PM (Reply to #21)
ShaynasMommy
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OMG

I'm HOWLING with laughter at this.... Good one!
Jul 30 - 1PM
helldweller
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Barbie and Ken

For the older members, do you remember how when we were growing up, Ken had painted on hair and only one outfit? While Barbie had the actual hair, sometimes able to grow long or retract, and a million outfits? My narc only has one winter outfit (jeans, gym shoes and a long sleeved navy blue t-shirt) and one summer outfit (a white shirt and grey shorts). My closet pole kepts breaking from all the mini dresses I bought to keep him interested LOL!
Jul 31 - 5PM (Reply to #18)
loveofmylife
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Ken is fake

Everything was just a show with KeN!
Jul 30 - 2PM (Reply to #17)
better off
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Ever see 9 1/2 Weeks? And

Ever see 9 1/2 Weeks? And Mickey Rourke had all the same clothes in his closet... kind of like Simon Cowell, actually!
Jul 30 - 1PM
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loveofmylife

Wonderful metaphor (well not for the Ken's!) - totally identified with your wonderful story, strangely I was soulmate barbie too! Once I popped out a couple of kids though, I didn't look quite so 'hot' and didn't have enough adulation time for Ken. Got dumped on the pile with the two baby barbies! Enter new barbie soulmate. So original, aren't they? Great inspiration, thanks for sharing this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The deeper that sadness carves into your being, the more joy you can contain." ~ Kahlil Gibran "That which we do not confront in ourselves we meet as fate" ~ Carl Jung http://www.storyofmylife.com/KLARITY4 (KB2 temporary account)
Jul 30 - 5PM (Reply to #15)
loveofmylife
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KB2

I'm sorry, but this post made me laugh so hard, just visualizing the pile of barbies in the corner including the baby barbies. It is so pathetic. I was meeting with my therapist last week. This is the Christian one that I had had for several years. Well, I updated her on all that had happened and before I could tell her what my conclusion was, she said "I had a feeling that he was an N before, but now I clearly see that he is a flaming N, possibly a psychopath and he is very, very toxic. These types of guys leave tons of dead bodies in their wake". This immediately kicked of the mental image in my mind of piles of naked barbies..... thus the start of Ken's Story!