Where is everyone at in the process?

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#1 Oct 26 - 3PM
suzanne
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Where is everyone at in the process?

I am just thinking that maybe Barbara or Lisa could pin different steps to help everyone here and future everyones.
For instance, I am seeing a therapist and attorney, hoading $ and freakin scared crap-less...the anxiety it unbeleiveable. I am just frozen to take a step! WHY? Who is at this spot? What are you doing to take a step, get thru? Let's share tactics at different stages. Okay, I KNOW what he is, what I have to do, God has aligned me well, I walked thru an apartment and I CANT LEAVE...WTF?

This is by far my biggest challenge, 17 years together. This is not what I dreamed 42 would look like!

Oct 26 - 8PM
AnotherPath
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Suzanne, what a great

Suzanne, what a great question. Well for me I'm nearly two years having got rid of him. I went down the road so much that he ended up the last time being so violent he was arrested, I went to hospital and had a fractured cheek bone thought to have been a broken jaw. In some ways that made it easier as he was then in the system with a criminal record and evidence that he was an abuser. God knows how people cope in court or in their lives with justifying "only" psychological abuse, you know I mean that as an "only" knowing how awful that is. If you stay too long you will end up in hospital like me, but for some reason knowing that another violent attack WOULD happen, that was then going to be my marker for leaving. I decided that when he either killed me or maimed me I would leave, I even told my sister this. Shocking that I would leave only under those conditions, like I had to make it so REAL for people to believe and myself to believe that this was going on. My mother had done the same to me and my 2 sisters and brother as children and my dad, and she's never been made accountable. We all know it's happened but don't confront her, we just know. I'm so thankful my children were only 2 and 4 when this happened, because it MADE me break free. It's what I needed to break free. I say thankfully because I know they will not witness this again. I'd made excuses in my head for it from my own childhood experience, the hushed up secrets that my mother had done to us children and my father. Now, I'm the mother. The mother that won't tolerate violence and would never hit my children, because it's SO wrong. My exN was convicted of something my mother had done to me as a child and my siblings. She lives in denial as much as he does. It took me till I was 41 to realise abuse is abuse and therapy allowed me to see that whatever she pretends didn't happen, happened. The leap for me was dialing for the police ,it was pre-meditated for me. I was just waiting for that chance to arrive. During the wait it was scary because I knew I'd have to do it one day, it was on the cards, the anxiety is unbelievable, you know the get out is going to happen. I won't say that the get out isn't horrendous, but I will say that the get out is worth EVERYTHING to be free from these people. I saw them both for what they are. I have compassion for the woman and child I was and what she was dealing with, but two years down the line of freedom I'm a different woman, a woman that will have an abuse free life and see them both for what they are, and have not part in it for me or my children. There is only one way, to get out.

Ending the dance

Oct 26 - 4PM
suzanne
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Thanks for sharing...

We have an 11 year old, the therapist said today "what are you affraid of" I said "the affects on our dd" she said..."and you think the affects on her now are better for her...she knows, she feels the same toxins you do, she walks on the same eggshells you do, don't kid yourself, SHE KNOWS something is wrong here! Kids are more in tune than we think, she knows!" WOW, she is so right, this is crazy..just crazy! I feel like I am at the edge of a cliff, toes hanging over, ready to jump and just can't look or do it! BREATHING!
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #8)
Ellen
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Another thing

It is either you jump off the edge of that cliff to save your daughter or she will have to do it alone in years to come like me. I'll tell you it is not fun. Why should i have to do the work that my mum was supposed to do for me. I had the pain enough for both of us while she still suppresses hers. I wonder if she was ever as aware as you are and decided to stay anyway. I think she was.
Oct 26 - 5PM (Reply to #9)
itreallyisabouthim
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Ah - I was on the fence for

Ah - I was on the fence for a while because of the kids. I can understand that. But I finally got to the point where I realized that one healthy home and one sick one was waayyyyy better than one really sick, entangled one. And that my kids will benefit greatly from seeing me NOT putting up with him and drawing my own strong personal boundaries. This is so important, especially with daughters, I think.
Oct 26 - 7PM (Reply to #10)
Barbara (not verified)
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don't do it

take it from the Adult Child of a Narcissist.... GET OUT!! You can not "cope" or "deal" Get out get out get out ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Pathologicals only discard the best, most precious of gems of people... not the worst. They despise the strong, principled, decent & honest. Their discarding of you is then their highest commendation of your worth!" - A.V.
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #7)
Ellen
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I have to say

HI Suzanne, Oh if only you were my mum. If only my mum listened when i told her that my dad wasn't a nice man when i was 9 years old. Instead she tried to change my instinct. As a result i am 42 and have never dated a healthy man. You see i was taught to take a bad man and convince myself he was good. My mum got treated better than i did actually, no wonder she didn't want to leave, i think she enjoyed getting more attention from him than i did. It is so hard now for me to get over my ex narc who i have a 15 month old with. I go into denial and self blame often..........see my recent posts. At age 11 onwards i played up at school, got in with wrong people, shoplifted, talked incessantly so i didn't hear quiet, couldn't be alone, hair fell out, got depressed, got shingles, had PTSD can't think of anymore offhand. Anyway when you have left and you have a good relationship with your daughter and grandchildren remember how lucky you are. I don't see my mum, she is 43 years married now. She doesn't see her grandchildren, only the eldest cos i left contact with them when he was 8 so he is more like them. I can see the difference in my children as i changed my parenting. I have done a lot of work on myself and i still get hurt by men. That flat would look very empty in years to come if your life turned out like my mothers. Had to say this cos if you are afraid i would say be afraid of what your daughter may say to you when she is a grown woman having issues and panic feelings herself and picking men who never give her unconditional love. Of course, i don't know your narc or you but i want to share how it has been for me. Like i said i wish my mum even once contemplated leaving him. I wonder if i would be here typing this now.
Oct 26 - 4PM
shocked (not verified)
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I just did it a week ago

and although i know im in for a ride, im ready to ride it out. i do have children with him. i am getting the therapy. heres what i did. if you are going to tell him its over, have all the stuff you want out as much as possible. they are soo self centered they dont notice things dissappearing. i too saved up money. and on the day i did it, i had a freind on the phone, he didnt know the phone was on, keys in the car, all doors unlocked, all my stuff in the car, and in a lcoation in the house that if i needed to make a run for it i could better than he. it feels awesome to be out. a sence of freedom. no more sleeping on eggshells, is he going to do something to me tonite. i feel empowered, and although i keep waiting for the other shoe to drop-HE cant tell me what to do...HE is no longer in control...RIP IT OFF LIKE A BANDAID...(carefully and well planned) Get out. ASAP, why waste another day-for a YEAR i waited till one day-i cant. i cant fake it anymore, i cant take it anymore. JUST GO....God Bless you!
Oct 26 - 3PM
itreallyisabouthim
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You can do it! Kudos on

You can do it! Kudos on being prepared. Your description of walking through the apartment wondering why you don't just leave is very familiar to me. You may be waiting for that next thing to occur which will push you over the edge so you feel like you can leave. That thing will happen, but do you really want to have the additional baggage that it will bring? Something to think about. It is probably much more of an effective message to him if you leave when things aren't in a crisis state. Meaning that even when he is being "good" (is he?) that you wanted to leave him. I am stuck in a one-legged potato sack race with my STBXNH. I had children with mine and am just trying to make the best of it. The blessing I have is that he is probably not as charming as most N's and feels it is beneath him to even offer to change. Just thinks no matter what that I should want him back, but makes no overtures to try to make it happen. So he's not hard to leave for good. Good luck to you...you can do it, and do it cleanly!
Oct 26 - 4PM (Reply to #2)
quietude (not verified)
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It's hard to see

It's hard to see the other side of the fence sometimes until you're there. Sounds like you're very prepared and doing all the right things, you just need to take that leap of faith. I felt a HUGE void whenever I thought about life without my exN and it was too scary to think about. Now that I'm out, it feels scary thinking of what could have become of me if I stayed with him...(shivers!!) Good luck, you can do it...keep us posted!
Oct 26 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
grossot
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It is either you jump off

It is either you jump off the edge of that cliff to save your daughter or she will have to do it alone in years to come like me. Thank you for saying this. I guess my stage in this process is grief for the life I thought my daughter had. I remember looking at her daily and thinking how blessed I thought she was for having 2 loving caring parents. That's how duped I was. So maybe its actually the life I could have had for my daughter had I married someone else...but then she wouldn't be her would she? Oh! I'm talking in circles. I'm just really glad to hear from ACONS who say the right thing is to get out. I know I would be a miserable mess had I stayed...I was a miserable mess when I was with him. But what I wasn't prepared for is the worsening of the abuse tactics since I've left. Every week is a new game, a new way to tie my heart up in knots. I will take that with me and remember that this is for my dughter. I pray she keeps enough distance from her father to remain healthy. I think any amount of money is worth leaving the N. I am up to my eyebrows in lawyers fees, psych fees, at litem fees...fees, fees, fees...=sanity:) YOU TELL LIES LIKE A CHILD SPEAKS THE TRUTH SO GOOD YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW ~LISA SCOTT~(go to music tab) nolongercontrolled
Oct 26 - 7PM (Reply to #3)
Amazed
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New Life

That is so true, it is scarier to stay with them, than to make the leap, the determination, and go. Listen to you guts. Kids will adapt. They are resiliant. You can too, let it go, get as much of 'him' outta there as possible. When you look at the pros and cons, you will realize there are more pros to movin on. You can do it.