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#1 Nov 1 - 3PM
Anonymous (not verified)
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wanted a baby

mine wanted to get me pregnant, said he wanted a little girl just like me and he would spoil her rotten. I told him I would be raising her you wouldnt, and he said no we both would raise her. Sorry no baby with me pal, he wanted my tubes reversed, and wanted to deliver the baby himself, ya right bet he would get off on that YUCK. I think he was serious too

Nov 14 - 1PM
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Having a Narc's baby? No Way!

My Narc said that he wanted me to have his baby so he could see what it looked like. Not because he wanted to be a good father, to provide love and support for this child and me and to help me raise it, but to just see what the child would be like. When he said this to me, I thought, this would be the ultimate act of conquest over me for him! There is NO WAY that I would have his child! On that subject there was never a doubt in my mind. Something else he said to me was that he would finally introduce me to his family if I had his child. WTF??? I think you've got it backwards, buddy! As they say, past behavior predicts future actions. My Narc already had a college-age daughter who he doesn't stay in touch with and probably skipped out on paying many a child support payment. Not a ringing endorsement for fatherhood!
Nov 8 - 10AM
NanC (not verified)
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cyn

Be glad you did not have a child with this man!!! Can you imagine, you would never ever be rid of this monster! I hate that N is my daughter's father! Since we went to court in September and he told judge I didn't allow him to see daughter, that jerk has YET to "have time" to see her! (I am glad he doesn't get her though!) I hope she forgets him!!!
Nov 8 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
cynthia (not verified)
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Be glad you did not have a child with this man!!

I couldnt if I wanted to, my tubes are tied, he told me to have it reversed, ya right, he is 54 years old, I am 51 what the hell would I want a child for at my age, he said his girlfriend has been trying to get pregnant and wants his baby, his GF is 49 I think, his girlfriend is a grandmother for gods sake, so thats probably another lie, besides I think he got snipped so can you imagine her trying to get pregnant not knowing he got snipped, what a monster. Speaking of pregnant, he told me several times he always wanted to f--k a woman about 8 months pregnant, the big stomach would be a turn on, A TURN ON? Its supposed to be beautiful and a miracle when carrying a child not a sexual turn on not to mention he gives no thought to how uncomfortable it is being 8 months pregnant, its not what I thought of when I was 8 months pregnant I was getting the baby room ready, and resting, and praying my baby would be healthy not think of f---ing. I imagine it is living hell being connected to a N with a child he fathered, the N will have a field day controlling that for 18 years just to make your life miserable and for no other reason. Let me tell you how much mine loved children. On Halloween he said he always wanted to hide behind bushes and throw shit and the children to scare them away, and he wanted a child with me? His GF has two daughters and one grandchild from a previous marriage she has been married three times, mmmmm anyway his GF does alot with her family and her children (that is probably all she has got) and since day one he said he has NEVER NEVER done anything with her family, didnt even go to his GF's daughters wedding or give a gift just made an appearance at the reception, she went to disney world with her daughters and grandchild and he wanted no part of it he said, are you kidding why would I want to go with a bunch of snieviling brat kids with her to disney world, I would rather slam my nuts in a car door, those were his exact words, I thought hey I can slam your nuts in my car door if you like, ha ha. Great father material eh? He never goes to holiday family get togethers either, he always has to work, the bastard probably schedules it so he works. I realize its HER children but if I remarried and my partner had children I would want to be a part of her family and show respect enough that I cared about her family because her family means a great deal to her. One time he told me he didnt speak to her for a week because she had to babysit her grandchild on his day off and it ruined the whole day for him, gee would it ever dawn on him to enjoy a precious baby for a day and share that with her NO because he hates children that is evident. He said he has never even seen the grandchild only maybe once, OH MY GOD I asked him if he ever held her and he said F--k no, I see her kids maybe once a year. Can you imagine what her family must think of him? And she wants to have his baby? What a crock of shit another lie from his lips. Now let me tell you the inquiries my Psychopath asked of MY grown children. You will love this, "so is your daughter a nempho like her mother? Is she fucking anyone? I bet she loves dick like her mother does. I told him dont you ever speak of my daughter to me again he laughed and said I was just kidding, I told him I didnt find the humor in it for your information my daughter has a masters degree in psychology so fucking isnt on the top of her priority as it is in your life she has studied sex addicts like you, he hung up on me. "LOVES DICK LIKE HER MOTHER DOES"? Actually I think you like dicks more than I do if the truth be known you bisexual freak. Ya NanC mine was a monster and I am so glad the nightmare is over. You would think knowing mine was so sick that my recovery would be a breeze but for some reason it doesnt work that way, we always go back to the con, fraud and betrayal of being swindled into something beyond what we ever imagined them to be. I know I am leaving behind a man that was highly disturbed but its also the way he left me, disturbed and mentally injured. I have to erase all this sick shit he inflicted on me. Keep your baby girl away from that monster and be glad he doesnt have time to see her, hope that continues through out her childhood. I know its sad because it is her father but one day I hope you find a wonderful healthy man to be her strong influence in her life.
Nov 8 - 10AM (Reply to #5)
AnotherPath
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I hate it that my exN is the

I hate it that my exN is the father of my 2 children. My big anxiety is that I will always have him in my life.......... quick get the bucket. He also uses them to get at me. They're 4 and 6 now and he tells them I punched him and kicked him. They know it's not true and saw him assault me and go off in an ambulance. They have spent the weekend at his new girlfriend's house, when they get back in couple of hours I'll have to endure the latest shit that has gone on. I find that difficult I don't comment about him though.

Ending the dance

Nov 8 - 11AM (Reply to #6)
quietude (not verified)
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anotherpath

I am so sorry to hear this, it is very painful just to read, so I can't imagine actually living it. My heart really goes out to you and your kids. If you've already expressed this before, forgive me if I'm asking questions you've already addressed: Are the kids in therapy? Is there any way to get an evaluation from a therapist to present in court, that them being alone with him is very detrimental to their well being? Has your ex ever had a psych eval? *Not to mention that he's capable of ASSAULT!!! This is not an acceptable environment for their well being, and shouting it from the rafters in the form of legal action may be the only way to save them from this type of abuse. I know I'm stating the obvious but I'm a huge believer in fighting until the bloody end (so to speak) for our kids. Many have been successful in getting supervised visitation under such circumstances. I for one, was able to with my first husband.
Nov 8 - 11AM (Reply to #7)
AnotherPath
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quietude

thanks for your message. No the children are not in therapy but because I went to court 5 (£18,000) times to prolong over night and the fact that he has a conviction CAFCASS were involved, evaluating the situation with the children. This overrules therapy I was told. and CAMS wouldn't get involved. I took a picture of my daugher aged 3 with a black eye into court caused by him raging at her and her running into some furniture. He said I did it. The judge said we have to move on and look to the future and all evidence shows a father should be part of the children's lives so he got overnight eventually. He went on a mens program ordered by the courts and he played the game and they thought he was great, even had him talk on a radio show, he was their model student. In the uk you can't stop overnight contact unless physical or sexual abuse is happening. they had supervised for over a year then it went to overnight. They never look forward to going, although they do like the gifts he gives them. No child support money for 18 months. He child support agency took him to court last week and won, he owes £12,000 to the children. He has a good job. He told the kids he's taking me to court over more access and also told my solicitor. If it goes to court I've logged everything and the fact he had my car (he admits this to my solicitor) taken at 4am from my drive so he could sell it and pay some of the legal cost for not paying the child support money. I got it back. You can't mention in court about money with regards to visitation, although if i go to court I will. This seems to be a never ending nightmare for me and the children. They're scared of him. My daughter now 6 asked how old does she have to be before she can decide for herself. I said 10. She then said "mummy I can't wait to be 10" it's all so wrong. He's so manipulative the judge thinks he's decent, even said "I feel for the father" because CAFCASS didn't recommend moving it to overnight. I just don't know what to do next. If I go to court i have to represent myself as can't afford it. He's representing himself and is a so manipulative he will be cross examining me. His every word is a lie, but I don't have to convince anyone on this board about that we all know. Just convince the legal system who know nothing about narcissism. They know he was is a psychiatric hospital 16 years ago. To get a psych evaluation he has to agree to this!!!!!! Sometimes I feel like i'm going insane. It's hard enough healing and on top I'm fighting with everything I have for my children. My friends and family say, my children will find out what he is in due course so don't worry. i just don't know the harm he's doing. He has only one year left on probation. Sorry for the rambling, I find it especially hard when my children have spent the weekend, like this one at his girlfriend's. 45 mins till I see him and pick them up...

Ending the dance

Nov 8 - 5PM (Reply to #10)
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AnotherPath

How sad for you and your children. I cannot tell you how it turns my stomach to think of children being used by their own parents. Your ex is a monster to do this to them. You ramble away as much as you need to. Thank God you at least have this board to get it out, don't ever apologize for telling us as much as you want...wish we could do more for you. You are a strong, good mother.
Nov 8 - 2PM (Reply to #8)
quietude (not verified)
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UK

Wow, what a effed up system. Parent's rights are evidently more important than the kids. I assume there is no low cost legal aid services, especially where DV is involved? Your family says don't worry, but you're right, the damage being done in the meantime is accumulative. All I can say is keep knocking on doors, making calls, persistence and assertiveness can pay off. I hope you find a friendly advocate who can truly help you and your children. Saying prayers and sending strength and hope your way... This is just awful, and sad to say dangerous. This is why some women go to other countries and change their identities!!! ANYONE ELSE FROM THE UK KNOW OF ANYONE OR ANY SERVICE THEY'VE USED THAT CAN HELP HER??????
Nov 8 - 3PM (Reply to #9)
AnotherPath
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I can't leave the country as

I can't leave the country as he has parental responsibility even though we weren't married. It would be viewed as abduction. Already thought of that one.

Ending the dance

Nov 1 - 3PM
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Cynthia

yeh cynthia, their whole 'baby' thing gives me the chills. Before he D&D me, he insisted he thought I was having a baby. Not in a contemptuous, dread filled way - like he was willing it to be true. In a dream world, this would mean he loved me and wanted me in his life. In their twisted world, from what Barbara has told me, babies = control. Yuk.
Nov 1 - 4PM (Reply to #2)
4joys (not verified)
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Mine never wanted a baby. HE

Mine never wanted a baby. HE was the baby. He hated babies getting attention.
Nov 1 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
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babies

yuck is right cynthia - wow he was really obsessed with private parts... blech! Psycho-Boy made one of the cruelest comments ever to me. VERY early when I was his "one and only" (gag) we were online chatting about all my infertility treatment and how painful and even soul-wrenching it is when you want a child and how lucky I was to finally get pregnant at 40. How much I loved my kids and wish I could have had maybe one more. His comment "if you'd been with me I would have given you all the children you ever wanted." Do I need to say how much I cried that week? Cried & cried. Then I mentioned that I'd had an abortion for him in June 1976. He didn't even comment. Just said "my wife is so cold. She only wanted two kids." Well hell yes - she saw she's doing all the work! evil... sheer evil. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ My Abuse Information Site Online Coaching & Help