The VERY real and practical things that happen to us when we associate with narcs

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#1 May 1 - 11PM
Arwen
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The VERY real and practical things that happen to us when we associate with narcs

This list is off the top of my head and not from any article. I need it to remind me of these real truths when I get all dreamy-eyed about my narc.

1. Many narcs are sociopathic liars and criminals. By associating with them we are not only being set up to be lied to on a consistent basis, but we are actually set up for being investigated by law enforcement, being arrested as an accomplice, losing our children to the state due to our association/accompice status, subjecting other family members and our children to investigation and arrest, and putting our children and family members in direct harms way of violence or worse due to retaliation of narc/P.

2. Most narcs are superior con-men and have conned us out of thousands or dollars, most of which will never be seen again if any ever at all.

3. In bringing the narc into association with our children, by default we are exposing our children to the likelihoods of verbal, physical, sexual and emotional abuse by the narc, resulting in indefinite years of scarring.

4. Every narc I have ever known will not use a condom, and most somatic narcs are extremely reckless and promiscuous and have a total lack of sexual hygiene, thereby raising the likelihood of our contracting one of more STD's by a great percentage. and many of these diseases will be with us for life such as Herpes, Hep B and C, AIDS, and although HPV is now rampant in the general community, it is still one of the leading causes of female reproductive cancers.

5. The same lack of sexual protection of a narc can lead to unwanted pregnancies, and many of you are married to the narc who fathered your children...would you want to bring another one of his children into this world knowing who he is?

6. By allowing the narc into our lives we run the risk of severe and debilitating anxiety and depression which has and can lead to suicide, job loss, loss of financial independence and stability, impairment of every day functioning and coping for our children, family members who may need us, and the world need at large.

4. In the case of violent narcs we may be mauled, maimed, injured for life, or murdered.

5. In associating with a narc we set ourselves up to be stalked and harassed, and this can sometimes mean our circle of friends and family may also be stalked and harassed.

6. A divorce from a Narc can result in a great deal of loss of time and especially money.

May 2 - 7PM
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PTSD

You can end up with 2 gifts that keep on giving...PTSD--Post Traumatic Stress Disorder AND PTSD--Post Traumatic Sexual Disease. These people are just so gol darned appealing, aren't they?
May 2 - 1PM
ifinallygotit
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Money off topic a bit

My ex N is now with what appears to be a poor lower class hookerish girl, which is no crime. But I think it is to make him feel BIG and important. When we met i was struggling too (like her but I am educated). Over time, I grew up and got serious about having no retirement $! I remember when I told him my little business was finally doing better and that i now earned good $. He was not happy for me...I think it made him feel even worse towards me because he was too dysfunctional to get a job yet proud of his early (broke) retirement. I tried to help him with a resume but he refused my help. He only has a job now in another city because an old friend gave it to him I think we would have had financial ruin had we stayed together or he would have just hated me for being successful...and trampled me even more.
May 2 - 1PM
ifinallygotit
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thanks for these scary reminders

I am ashamed that I associated with him: 1. he evaded child support because he refused to get himself a normal job (after having been rich and famous) even though he loves his kids 2. he smoked pot regularly 3. god knows what he did with other women but when i met him I noticed he was slow to want intercourse but wanted everything else (he probably already had a GF) 4. he had a history of abandoning women and was not friends with any past GF I am lucky that he had pride and did not lean on me financially although over the course of the ten years i went from a low income to a high income so i was generous at the end... I work with teens and felt bad about associating with his habits... I altered my values and boundaries to be with him. He hid his legal problems and finances from me. he is broke but will get a HUGE PENSION when he retires and will be rich again after all the irresponsibility and laziness
May 2 - 1PM
Tinker
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and PTSD

yes, all those things, and, almost certainly, PTSD. the manipulation of the N changes your emotions and brain chemistry and takes a long time to overcome. I get incredible anxiety and sadness on and off, i feel damaged and different from "normal" people. i truly believe that i would be sick, if not worse, if i stayed with him much longer. so, this is the better alternative of the two, and now there's the chance to heal.
May 2 - 9AM
Lisa87
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HPV

Yup I got HPV from him but didn't know it until after we broke up, and then when we had sex one time (we weren't officially together but I gave in and regretted it terribly), he gave me another STD (treated with 3 days of meds). When I mentioned this to him he said he was clean (but I guess men can carry it with no symptoms). Asshole, why are they like a drug to us and the sex is like a drug.....no more, done, NC NC NC I'm doing good...just keep venting on here lol
May 2 - 10AM (Reply to #11)
Arwen
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Lisa87

I am sorry to hear what happened...I hope your treatment plan went well. Yes we all can be carriers of many things and not present with anything. I believe the sex is a drug A) because there is absolutely nothing else going on between us and them when we try to relate to them intellectually, with humor, with personal sharing, or anything HUMAN, so the sex is just about the only thing we can do that bonds us to them, making it that much more intense. It is made even more intense because they give us SO much flattery as women that it's a real turn-on, at least in the honeymoon phase. and B) as many of us have said here, narcs can't ever hold down a real job and don't have any real interests so they practice sex as a full-time job and...practice makes perfect lol! Idiots.
May 2 - 12PM (Reply to #12)
Lisa87
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successful Narc

My Ex N is a very successful business man, makes tons of $$ and travels everywhere, never in one place for very long. He is well respected in his job, but I believe its all about how he looks to everyone around him, superficial, and in the moment. His only hobbies are travel, sex and drinking, and traveling to do more sex and drinking, oh and great restaurants too, oh and smooozing any woman within 10 feet of him lol! We would go to the gym but he was always trying to start a hobby or exercise plan but didn't really keep anything up for long, gets bored too easily.... Any others have very successful generous narcs? Makes it hard to give up all the perks but the emotional distress isn't worth selling my soul
May 2 - 12PM (Reply to #16)
terri
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Lisa

YES, you just described my exN! Mine took up legit hobbies that he didn't really pursue - such as drums (bought the most expensive kind), motorcycle (bought the most expensive kind), golf (bought the most expensive clubs), etc. etc. It was all about the image - he really sucked at all of the above because he never devoted any real time or energy to them. And at the time I was with him, I thought I enjoyed all the perks of being with someone who had some money to spend. But looking back, the time with him never really turned out to be as good in reality as I had hoped it would be in my "illusion" of the relationship.

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 2 - 12PM (Reply to #14)
Arwen
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and Lisa p.s.

...that genius narc has been fired from many jobs, very important jobs, and despite his genius and success, he has earned himself a reputation of being completely out of his mind which he is.
May 2 - 12PM (Reply to #15)
Lisa87
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PS...genius

good to know...yes mine is sort of a genius too and a sick mother f'er...but holds jobs for quite a while. I work at same company (he got me my job) and he has been here for over 10 years and plans to retire here in 5-6 years...and will be very well off : ( tried to suck me in telling me how our life would be so great when he retires and we can travel, have 3 homes in different places, etc. Sad that I saw a future with this shell of a man, my eyes were blinded by dollar signs apparently.......
May 2 - 12PM (Reply to #13)
Arwen
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Lisa

Yep! My first and primary narc was and is HIGHLY successful and well-off in his field. A recognized genius in fact and very well-known and it is all true. And he is the sickest mother fucker you will ever meet in your entire life.
May 2 - 8AM
findingmeagain
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This list is dead on . Mines

This list is dead on . Mines hs done atleast three things on the list. His thing is he likes oral sex alot so of course no condoms is going on and yeah he will let anyone do it to him. He is a nasty perv. Found a penis pump and some pills. I guess with all the women he was cheating on me with he had to use something. I never knew he had these things until the day I packed up his shyt and threw him out.
May 2 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
Arwen
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Penis pump, huh?

Unreal. They are such incredible sex addicts. My x N would not wear underwear - EXCEPT when he wanted to actually sleep! He told me "I like to be ready". Made me so fucking nauseous and scared for my own health. What makes you think that the number of women your narc has been with means that he is safe sexually? I would completely disagree with you about that and ask that you take yourself out of denial with that issue, and make sure you have been tested for everything. They are completely and utterly reckless not just sexually but with everything they do.
May 2 - 3AM
dudette
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Spot on PG

You could not have made it any clearer! Kudos to you Lots of love Dx
May 2 - 7AM (Reply to #7)
Arwen
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Thx Dudette, it really helps

Thx Dudette, it really helps me to write it out so I can see it in plain English, you know?
May 2 - 1AM
Qing Yuan
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This is an amazing post! So

This is an amazing post! So true! My narc is into a hooky lifestyle and we got raided a few years ago! With my son in my arms! This post is very acurate! These guys do drag you down with them! Time to get out and get back up! Thanks patienceg! Xx U really hit hometo me with this!
May 2 - 2AM (Reply to #4)
Qing Yuan
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HA Ha .. narc cant get sex yet!!!!

and the narc in my life got me pregnant becasue he refused to wear a condom. I said I wouldnt without but soon did. He was pleased to tell me (afterwards) that he had never warn one ever in any of relationships or even slight sexual encounter and all that all girls that minded, caved in to him in the end becasue they were so horny for him.. He denied saying it after but I remember being sick shocked that I had caved and been so predictbale to him. funny tho.... I saw he had written a card to his brother 'saying he was moving out from the family home becasue one of the reasons... he needed to have sex' We all have intestinal worms, my son, me and the narc. We have had them for over three months now and cant get shot... The hilarious thing is he has meant a new woman... and he likes her a lot, a lot...... So he cant even the get the sex he is dying for..... HA FUCKING HA... he could I guess but I dont tink he would risk giving his new supply worms so he has to wait and be a gent.. Cant even sleep in her bed.... TO her it will seem like he is a lovely slow moving gentleman.. (when he boned me the first night too) What a joke this actaully is. The worms are serving to make him look so great!!!! Does that piss me off? Nah, becasue in the end the truth will come... Either she will get stunned and shunted in the same way I did. OR She will play with him and dump him or it may even work out, two narcs togther, happy as too peas in a self centred pod.. Either way... I will have my beautiful son and he will fade away into narc heaven with her. and I will never have to subjogatory hair pulling, oral a**l sex with him again!!! GREAT post Patience...
May 2 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
Arwen
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To all that this post has helped

thanks for your comments...and please keep your own thoughts and ideas coming regarding any other serious problems arise from being associated with a narc. I need all the help I can get right now - need to take off these rose-colored glasses off for good.
May 2 - 12AM
Arwen
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One more for this list

For those of who are married and have been conned by a narc, we run the risk of losing our marriages and in some cases putting our husbands in the way of possible violence by a narc. If you want to lose your marriage which I may want, it may not sound so bad, but I don't think anyone of us wants to have our current husbands leave under those circumstances that would arise should he become aware of narc.
May 2 - 4PM (Reply to #2)
WiserNow30
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I'm involved in a stalking

I'm involved in a stalking case with my Ex N as we speak. The evidence is truly overwhelming and I can't wait for my final day in court next week.