Typecasting

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#1 Jul 4 - 6AM
Lobo555
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Typecasting

CharlieSheenWinning, as befitting his name, seemed to view his life as one big show with people put into "roles." I was cast as the fun sex kitten.

A friend of mine once tried to talk to him about the two of us. This was a year after his fiance broke up with him. At that point, I had already been involved with him as he and his fiance would break up and get back together. She would break up with him, and he'd bounce over to me for supply. She'd crook her finger to get him back, and I'd be discarded.

This gave him the chance to typecast me as sex kitten and he could never let that go. My friend told him, as I had several times myself, that I wanted a relationship, not just casual sex. He refused to accept this. He said to her, "No, that's not what she wants. She's different." Meaning: Her role is not Madonna, her role is Whore. My friend insisted, but he insisted right back that I was "different."

Anyone else feel typecast by your narc no matter what you did or said?

I know I had a responsibility for taking on the sex kitten role in the first place, but no matter what I said after hitting the proverbial casting couch, he never looked at me as a potential girlfriend. We even went away together for a week, which I thought was a step in the right direction, but then he still insisted he didn't want a relationship. Three weeks after he said that to me he married someone else! She was immediately cast into the role of Wife -- he only knew her for 3 weeks.

Jul 5 - 8AM
Susan32
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Role Playing

The final D&D was one big lecture about roles, and the ex-Psych prof would refer to himself in the third person as "the teacher." When I declared my love to him, his first response was to NOT give me eye contact, and snap "I'm offended." Then he went on to accuse me of "wanting to call all the shots in the relationship." He claimed *I* was the one scared about the future&graduation... and in retrospect, I think it was HIM. There was such major disassociation that when I asked him for his OWN opinions/feelings, he froze. He'd have a deer in the headlights look. He knew that once I graduated, I'd no longer see him as a superior/authority figure. That I'd call him by his first name without shame (he doesn't even like his colleagues calling him by his first name) I got lectured about "keeping my distance"--and it's what you read at "Dealing with Narcs" websites about keeping one's EMOTIONAL distance. If the final D&D had happened 1 year ago instead of 11 years ago, I'm betting the ex-P would've parroted Lisa Scott, Michele, Goldie, Scoop and Steph. In a surreal way, he was plagiarizing sites on NPD. The ex-P wasn't capable of originality at the emotional level, let alone the intellectual one. I remember once telling him "I know what Augustine thinks. I know what Wittgenstein thinks. What do YOU think?" He froze with that one too.
Jul 4 - 11AM
TNR1
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Aways the whore...never the madonna....

That was my role too. Mr. N has always referred to me not by my name...but by my body parts. A typical text would be "I want to f*ck your & and ^" or "I need to get up deep inside of you". He also would ask if I loved being f*cked by his rather large "you know what". He keeps coming back around because he has me pegged in this role and it allows him the freedom to have his main girl and me on the side for his dirty fantasies.
Jul 4 - 4PM (Reply to #14)
Lobo555
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Mr. N = CharlieSheenWinning

I swear they're the same dude!!!
Jul 4 - 9PM (Reply to #15)
TNR1
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They probably are brothers

They probably are brothers separated at birth. Right now, Mr. N is not married...but he does proclaim that he loves the new girl in his life.
Jul 4 - 7AM
ruby01 (not verified)
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I'm not sure what I was

Mostly just a puppet. Whatever he wanted I pretty much did it. Until he started in on the weird sexual stuff. I'm not a prude but I exited as soon as he started treating me like a free whore. I haven't figured out if he dropped his mask or he finally figured out the one thing that would shock and disgust me. It was completely out of character for the man I knew. My guess is that he had an eye on new supply and didn't need me anymore. As for yours getting married so quickly I'm really not shocked. Even though mine would flail his arms and proclaim he would NEVER live with anyone EVER again, when he knew I had no desire to move in with him, thirty minutes later he would say he would probably be married 4 more times in his life because he would probably eff it up. If they do get married it makes sense that it would be immediately, before the victim realizes they are just a scam using them for something, yours obviously for $$$$$. What does surprise me is that he found a woman that would do it that is older than 19. What's up with that?
Jul 4 - 7AM (Reply to #12)
Lobo555
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No Idea

Don't know what her story is -- but it can't be good. She's in her 30s or more likely 40s. Not exactly an innocent 19 yo ingenue. All I know is -- and this is coming from *his* best friend -- they both drink. . . a LOT. I knew he was a drinker, but apparently they've both been drunk since they hooked up 3 1/2 months ago. That's a lotta drinking, even for him. So, he has a drinking buddy with a trust fund.
Jul 4 - 7AM
TraumaMamma
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Arm candy

It was how he referred to me. He used to tell me I was the prettiest girl he ever dated. When we were friends on facebook, I did try and see other girls he dated as per comments on his page. I don't care about looks, actually. I would rather be with someone who is average and fun. Who treats me with respect. I have been with people who are drop dead gorgeous and ugly inside. People who are dorky and make me laugh until I cry...and I have dated them, too. But for my N, he was digging the fact that he could have me out on the town as his "arm candy" He told his partner I was the most beautiful woman he has ever dated and his biz parter said I must be gorgeous becuase he has dated some beautiful women. Often makes me wonder if he ever saw anything else.

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.' --Mary Anne Radmache

Jul 4 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
Lobo555
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Arm Candy Parade

Oh yeah, they love to parade the women they think of as arm candy like they're all cock of the walk! They don't see anything else because they don't need to. CharlieSheenWinning thought I was funny, but I'm sure he didn't admire me for my golden wit. :):):) I think it was more for my 34Ds! I've dated guys who would be considered somewhat dorky, and it's been wonderful. Trouble is, they didn't want me, either! But at least they treated me with respect.
Jul 4 - 8AM (Reply to #6)
TraumaMamma
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Yep

I am the life of the party. Sarcastic, dark humor, given my profession. I usually have everyone in tears with my work stories, family stories, etc. This weekend N woulda never fit in. (I was supposed to give that up, too to hang out with him at the Islands in Ohio and miss my grandsons first bday party) Pfft. My kids and their friends are like living on the set of jackass. My brother passed out and my 17 yr old son put my mom's lipstick on him. My adult son's friend put the dogs bark collar on himself and barked and shocked himself. We watched a boxer drink water and then took lowball side bets to see who would drink the water for the minimum amt of money. Ok...no one drank it...we just wanted to see what everyone's bottom line was....it was filled with dog spit. N woulda never fit in. Now, I can black tie affair and rock a bikini top and do the arm candy thing. But I do love my family and we always make some strange memory to share over the next visit. I can be myself there. My N thought he was funny. And I found that I got alot funnier again once I was away from him. Life is too short to not laugh, man.

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.' --Mary Anne Radmache

Jul 4 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Lobo555
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Too funny!

Your family sounds like a riot. Yes, life is too short to skip on the laughs. Narcs seem to want to use laughter as a means to an end rather than just laughing for laughing's sake. Hell, give me laughs over narc-fueled drama any day!
Jul 5 - 12AM (Reply to #10)
TraumaMamma
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There was more

I had to leave to let my dogs out. Daughter and I went home for the night. Left my 17 yr old son there with his 24 yr old brother and my own 40 yr old brother. My son works for a moving company. He had a fire pit filled with dressers, a motorcycle frame, fridge, the rug that Zeus (the owner of the collar) ate earlier in the day. The flames shot up 20 ft that night. Firefighters and paramedics in my county rejoiced it wasn't in our county! Someone drank all nite and face planted on the lawn and my 17 yr old son said he saw flies coming out of his mouth 30 min later. I was like.."was he Breathing!?!?" "We didn't check mom... There were people passed out all over the lawn." His new nickname is "blowfly" I cannot IMAGINE what my narc would have done seeing all that. That kind of stuff is what I actually work around, and my family is rather off the wall. We laugh alot. We make fun of each other alot. If you screw up, you are gonna be beaten down for it every holiday and get together. Better have tough skin. But ya know what? There is alot of love there. I am so blessed and I know it. And my younger kids realize it is much funner to drink and watch everyone else be stupid. They even commented that me and their dad hardly drink. I said, "yep...remember Blowfly...we don't wanna be remembered that way..and next party we are bringing sharpies!"

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.' --Mary Anne Radmache

Jul 4 - 12PM (Reply to #7)
rosedewittbukater
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good for you

That all sounds like a rockin' good time to me. Yeah, I can't picture my xN doing any of those things, not in a million years. I don't remember her ever even laughing in my presence, they have little or no sense of humor at all. They get their thrills and chuckles from hurting and manipulating others, not by being care free silly human beings.
Jul 4 - 9PM (Reply to #8)
Susan32
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Humorless Narcs

I rarely saw the ex-Psych prof laugh, unless it was at my expense (or someone else's) and his sense of "humor" was incredibly cruel. He thought my grief at my grandfather's death was funny. He thought reducing me to tears in public was funny. He'd say cruel things when he saw people laughing&being carefree. He'd dismiss happy people as shallow, couldn't stand seeing it. He liked laughing at me... But when the laughs at the senior skit were directed AT HIM.... he RAN AWAY. Don't worry, I told him the next day how the senior skit mocked him, blow by beautiful blow, with a huge smile on my face. It unnerved him.
Jul 4 - 7AM
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Sounds like my story. After

Sounds like my story. After 10 years, and engagement and a child later, I realized that I was the other woman. I am such an idoit for ever allowing myself to be that for soooo long. I mean, I know it's about and all. I know this is NOT my fault but I'm still in the very early stages and I somehow and blaming myself still for being SO naive. All the signs were there, I just never had anyone play games with me like this before so I ended up taking in and believing the lies that he fed me. Like... We were soulmates, no one understands him like I do,we are family and nothing or noone will ever change that, his ex was just so comfortable, he says he kept gooing back to her because it was always so comfortable to go back to since she was around so long.... I always thought that he wold one day realize my worth and come back and live happily ever after. But he NEVER came back. He made me feel worthless and left me for dead. He hasn't called in 3 weeks which is very unusual for HIM. He thinks that I look better than her physically, so he always wanted me to act like her. For an example, she used to yell and scream at him a lot to get her point across. I'm not really the type. I'm more reserved but you will definiately know that I;m angry. Sometimes, he would just keep ticking me off and eventually, I would yell and he's like "that's my girl! that's the woman I know!" I'm like ..."no, this is who you WANT me to be. NOT who you know!" He called me by her name ALL THE TIME. He made excuses like our names are so close, I'm like they are no where near close. Did they suffer for this????? Do they get to live happily evr after while I drag myself out of a hole for the next 10 years!!!????? So not fair!
Jul 4 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
Lobo555
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SoOverItNext

I think with narcs EVERY woman is the OW. They always have more than one, and none are THE One. No, it's not fair. And it sucks to boot. I'm right there with you in your frustration and anger. But at least we have a chance to move on and be okay. Narcs will always be the disordered mess they are right now. Your profile name is great, by the way! You will be SO over it, saying NEXT! And he'll be the same loser-schlub forever.
Jul 4 - 9AM (Reply to #3)
SoOverItNext
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Thanks! I love this forum!

Thanks! I love this forum! All you ladies understand me and I understand you. It's like a sip of water in the desert. For so long, I have attempted to have friends and family understand the madness to no avail but it's like a sisterhood here... Thanks!