Stuck in the Loop

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#1 Oct 3 - 10AM
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Stuck in the Loop

I`ve been checking out Elizabeth Kübler-Ross`s "Five Stages of Grief" in the last few days. For anyone unfamiliar with her work, it describes the process of somebody confronted with a terminal illness in terms of five "Stages of Grief": Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance.

E.K.R. points out that these five stages of the process are equally applicable to somebody faced with any other trauma, for example, loss of employment or the ending of a relationship.

She also notes that everyone`s "passage of grief" is different; some people may not go through all these stages, or go through them in a different order while others may become "stuck" in one of them (for example, depression). Moreover, someone who moves on to a new stage before having fully completed the previous one may then return to the previous stage or even "cycle" for some time between the two (for example, we may return to Anger or even Denial when Bargaining does not work).

When we consider the Five Stages of Grief (or their extended version: Shock, Denial, Immobilisation, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance),we see that some of the stages - for example, denial or anger - are a way of fighting the inevitable, and are thus active. Others, such as depression or acceptance, are a way of resigning oneself to the inevitable, and are thus passive. And between the active and the passive phases of this emotional roller-coaster ride, we have phases of inertia, numbness, emotional or even physical paralysis. The ride itself, this terrible cycle between revolt and resignation, between fight and flight, between heartbroken unbelief and blind fury, is so exhausting we can do little else. Yet ultimately, in a "normal" process of grieving, this "rocking" gradually becomes less and less violent, until it eventually comes to a standstill

However, I think survivors from a relationship with a narc. are particularly susceptible towards becoming "stuck in the loop" because of the narcissist`s tendency towards "splitting". Splitting basically means seeing everything as black or white, with no grey shades. For example, the narcissist idealizes us, then devalues us. He wants to marry us, then he never wants to see us again. We are the best thing that ever happened to him, or the worst, he loves us or he hates us, we are good or bad, Madonna or whore, his soulmate or his scourge, all-important or totally irrelevant, he worships us one minute and spits on us the next.

I don`t know if anyone else was able to put up with this and still maintain a reasonably stable state of equilibrium. I certainly wasn`t. When my narc. screamed he hated me, I screamed I hated him right back. And when he came around again and wanted to be nice, I melted in his arms and told him how much I loved him. Little by little, I took on his imbalance. Over the course of two years, he CONDITIONED me to cycle. He conditioned me to cycle so effectively that I continued to cycle even when he wasn`t there. And I went on cycling even after I left him, like one of those kids toys weighted at the bottom, which go on rocking back and forth, back and forth when you push them once.

Hoovering is his way of continuing to condition us to cycle, his way of keeping the toy rocking. With hoovering he keeps in place the imbalance he began with D&D. He is still the one in control as long as he is rocking the toy. Even if he does not hoover, and we are secretly wishing he would, or believing that we are somehow inferior to those who ARE hoovered - he is rocking the toy. If he doesn`t hoover, and we are afraid he might start, if we`re getting strange calls or texts or feeling spied on or controlled by third parties - he is rocking the toy. And as long as we are rocking, we are stuck in the loop. We cannot come to Being, because we are still Reacting.

What is more, we continue to react even if the stimulus is no longer there, because that is what the narc. has conditioned us to do. Like Pavlovs dogs, we salivate when the bell rings, even though there`s no food in sight, because living with the narc`s imbalance has rewired, reprogrammed even our reflexes. Stuck in the loop of anger and pain, or the numbness between, we cannot come to Acceptance, and subsequently cannot grieve.

NC gives us a "safe zone" in which to work out these crazy cycles until the rocking stops by itself, as it inevitably will when we cease allowing the narc. to rock us. And it gives us a peaceful haven, a kind of asylum for us to unsnarl the narcs` rewiring and reprogramming at our own pace. NC gets us out of the loop and brings us to acceptance. Acceptance for us means "It.Is.Over". Not "what if...?". Not "maybe...." or "if only". Not "Was he" or "Why did he" or "Maybe I should have" either, though asking these questions is a critical step on the path of undoing the narc`s conditioning. Acceptance is, "It.Is.Over". Then, and only then, can we really begin to grieve.

Sorry this was long, hope it is useful and Love to my sister narc.-survivors wherever they may be!

Tigerlily

Oct 3 - 6PM
Sunafterrain
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Tiger

This is one of the MOST profound posts I've seen here! I'm so glad you integrated the five stages of grief by Kubler-Ross and it's so true. The dynamic of the relationship in which you have just outlined is easy to understand and accurate! You're doing excellent work!
Oct 3 - 6PM (Reply to #18)
Tigerlily
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Aw. thanks, Sunafter!

You`re so sweet! And I love your posts, so a positive comment from you means a lot to me! Sleep well, sister!
Oct 3 - 6PM
O2bfree
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Thank you Tigerlily! This was

Thank you Tigerlily! This was an excellent post!
Oct 3 - 6PM (Reply to #16)
Tigerlily
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Thanks, O2!

Glad you found it useful! I read all your posts too. Keep doing good work. Take care, Tigerlily
Oct 3 - 2PM
Winter
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Beautiful post Tigerlily

You posts give me so much new and interesting perspectives. What I particularly like is that you analyses US and not THEM. It is so important. Thank you and please keep sharing your valuable insights. Love Winter
Oct 3 - 2PM (Reply to #14)
Tigerlily
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Thanx, Winter!

I really feel we need to concentrate on US and our healing, and make that our highest priority. They are a catalyst, at best ( and a collossal pain in the ass at worst). All the best in your healing process, Winter! Yay us!! Tigerlily
Oct 3 - 12PM
58 and going strong
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Tigerlily - great post! Thank

Tigerlily - great post! Thank you. Add 'The drama of the gifted child' by Alice Miller, and you can see why we were so easy to be conditioned to salivate emotionally when merely thinking of our Ns . . .
Oct 3 - 12PM (Reply to #12)
Tigerlily
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I`ve read it!

Also "Thou shalt not feel". Yes, Alice Miller`s work is great. Glad you enjoyed the post, 58!. Take care. Tigerlily
Oct 3 - 11AM
tresor2
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Superb Post, Tigerlily

Thank you!!! The part of your post that really hit home is your statement, "we continue to react even if the stimulus is no longer there, because that is what the narc. has conditioned us to do." For me, the acceptance part still brings of anger and shame and the grieving process has not totally occurred. It will in time. There's still about 2% that fights the "It's Over" because of the past conditioning of him always coming back throughout the last 8 years. It all makes sense.
Oct 3 - 12PM (Reply to #10)
Tigerlily
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Glad you liked it, Tresor!

I also find your posts and comments very astute and very inspiring, so I`m glad you liked mine! Take care of yourself, sister! Tigerlily
Oct 3 - 11AM
Hunter
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This is an awesome

This is an awesome post! Hunter
Oct 3 - 11AM (Reply to #8)
Tigerlily
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Thanx Hunter!

It was a relief to get it out, it was bursting my brain!
Oct 3 - 11AM
Sea
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Thanks for posting this

I realised i skipped anger stage and try to recover but i cant and i sort of go back n froth some stages. Then today i swing back to anger and rage big time! I'll wait for the rage to subside and move forward. It has to be truely 100% over for me.
Oct 3 - 10AM
StudentOfLife
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Great post

Thank you for posting, I have been thinking about being stuck in that loop place for the past couple months. This was very helpful. Things are getting better every day!!
Oct 3 - 11AM (Reply to #5)
Tigerlily
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Glad to hear that, Student!

Little by little, the pain and anger grow less. We will heal. You will heal, I will heal, we will all heal. Keep going strong!
Oct 3 - 10AM
freaked
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good post Tigerlily what a

good post Tigerlily what a long and weary road it's been. i want to put my head down on a comforting pillow and get a good night's sleep. disgusting things these narcs are. i tell you they are not humans at all. we all got duped. and recovery is such an uphill job. and in tandem i need to keep praying to God to deflect these creatures' demolition tendency.
Oct 3 - 10AM (Reply to #2)
Tigerlily
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My arms around you

for that comforting pillow and a good night`s sleep, Freaked. You`ll sleep well tonight, promise! Chin up, sister! You`ve come this far, and you can come farther. Love Tigerlily
Oct 3 - 10AM (Reply to #3)
freaked
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Tigerlily, thank you dear

Love and Light be with you Tigerlily and with everyone here. gn