Spin off from kauaigirl post......

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#1 Apr 20 - 5PM
kizzy72
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Spin off from kauaigirl post......

I was just reading kauaigirl post and that her Narc contacted her.

What I'm worried about is, what does it say about me if I'm the one trying to get closure and/or an answer and I'm saying some of the same things to the Narc that hurt me?

I contacted him on more than one occasion and even begged him to give me an answer, told him I'm sorry over and over again, and I admit I probably was being desperate and a little mentally touched, but I just wanted closure because he hung up on me and cut me off with no explanation.

What does this say about me if I'm the one saying "fine I'll never contact you again", then I still contact him?

Am I nuts too? :(

Apr 20 - 7PM
Deidre40
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Hi kizzy; I'm a big believer

Hi kizzy; I'm a big believer in closure. (ask some here lol) I wrote this long letter in December to my ex narc/friend of last year. Long story. Won't bore you with the details. But, he ignored the letter. Never acknowledged it. The thing about closure is...it has to be closure FOR YOU. My letter was closure. But, the guy is now hoovering again. Hoovering in this sense...meaning, he isn't interested in dating me...or even friending me. He has no women in his life, so he comes back to me...his audience. But, I'm not that girl anymore. I think that at this point, you need to find a way to just let him go. If he is a true narcissist, he does not care. And you begging, etc gives him a twisted sense of satisfaction. Sadly. So, for your own benefit...and health...and sanity. Just try to find some closure in your own heart. Know you're a good person. You tried to be a good friend. But, these people are just not capable of what you and I are capable of. I hope you heal...I can relate to your story though. What's interesting is I never thought that guy would ever surface again. But, he did...recently. He wrote me again tonight, after a series of me ignoring his emails. I don't really have to try that hard to be NC anymore with him...it's just I have nothing to really say. What do you say to someone who has no respect for me as a person? I have nothing to say. You can get to this point too...but it takes serious NC. And time. {{hugs}}
Apr 20 - 6PM
dazed and seeki...
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you're not nuts. the worst

you're not nuts. the worst part about breaking up with the N is that there is no closure. breaking up with a normal person involves closure. it still hurts, but the fact that there is no closure with the N makes everything feel nutty and crazy and really makes us question ourselves. i am going through this very thing and have been fighting for a long time to accept that there is no such thing as closure and that it has nothing to do with me. he just wants to keep the door open in case he needs me again in the future. or for whatever other crazy abnormal reason. you are going through something really normal and something that many of us have experienced. please don't question yourself and work on loving yourself and forgiving yourself. it's hard in a break up with a N because we are left w/ no answers/explanations and then we become desperate. this is completely normal. stay strong. xo.
Apr 20 - 6PM
kgirl
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Oh Kizzy....you're not

Oh Kizzy....you're not nuts! See...you could give your N closure, right? They can't! You could sit down and talk things through....say I'm sorry...understand if you need to part ways...that it didn't work out and wish each other well. Out of frustration, we act in ways we normally wouldn't...because their behavior is crazy-making! It's not you...it's HIM! hugs for you :) ~KG
Apr 20 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
kizzy72
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Yeah, I feel guilty

I get so worried about hurting other people's feelings that I'm always apologizing and trying to make peace. I just know that I have been insulted and called crazy in the past because of past abusive relationships where the person left me feeling like I've done everything wrong or either leaving me and not saying anything and I want so desperately to at least make peace about the situation that sometimes I'll email the person probably too much, pouring out my feelings and I did that a lot with him, then he would never respond and eventually I got angry. I just feel guilty about everything. I'm sorry for taking focus off of your post, it just touched home some of the things I heard your Narc say.
Apr 20 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
kgirl
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Kizzy....How can you be

Kizzy....How can you be guilty if you have only been trying to work for peace? Please don't buy the brainwashing! Please do take off from my post....if it helps you and we all learn even more....makes me happy and like some good can come of all of this :) Big huge hugs! ~KG
Apr 20 - 6PM (Reply to #4)
kizzy72
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worrying about what other people think

I worry a lot about what other people think. I know its because my self esteem is really low but I also know how Narcs like to leave others with a bad impression about their victims, and being that his brother is famous, I feel like the entire world is watching me. I just feel like I'm going nuts because I cry every day and I am becoming so phobic and isolated because I'm afraid of everything now. I can't put how I feel behind words, but I feel so bad because I trusted him. I never talk about me being molested with anyone, even my therapist because its embarrassing. He knew this was one of the unresolved issues I had with my dad because when my dad found out about me being molested, he pretty much did what the father did to his daughter in the movie "The Generals Daughter". I told him so much and I feel violated. Then I feel guilty because everyone on this board is having really hard times with years and years of abuse and intimacy, and I never even met the guy that just recently hurt me, even though my past relationships where there was intimacy were all with Narcs. How can this be with someone I never met? I feel confused, embarrassed and just emotionally drained. I'm so tired :(