SOOOOOOOOOOO HURT!

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#1 Jul 6 - 9AM
whatever2009
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SOOOOOOOOOOO HURT!

Well I have officially begun NO CONTACT. I finally seen it with my own eyes, no more rumors, no more second guessing, because I seen it.

I found a video, a video of him and some really drunk/high girl from a couple weeks ago. The video shows him making her do things, and then is turned off while they do whatever. It is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen. I am crushed, embarrassed and very hurt.

He is calling, and I wont answer, txting and I wont respond. Grilling his roommate (my bestfriend)
as to what my problem is and is swearing up and down he has no idea why im so hurt because he hasnt done anything. Im not even giving him the satisfaction of letting him no why I left, he doesnt deserve an explanation.

I wanna to throw up. Im scared. Im so hurt. This is the worst feeling ever.

Now what!?!?! Will he ever just go away? Will he continue to call.

My friend told him, im crushed and he needs to stop bothering me.

WHAT NOW!!!! I hate this, I really hate this.

Jul 8 - 8AM
whatever2009
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I hate him.

I asked him to leave me alone. So he told his roommate he will not contact me, if thats what I want. So hopefully that will make this easier. Also he told her that he has become dependent on me, and that he is in love with me, but he is a pervert. (ahhh YA). We were never suppose to get this close, it just happened. Altho he did also say that he told me to go out a have sex with someone else as well. I mean come on, that would make us even and then we could start over.....NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!! Im not a piece of shit...he clearly is. He told her he cant give me what I want, but even if we were to talk about it we would just go back to how things were...meaning, I would be his "non gf" but treated like a gf and then once in a while he will slip up and I will forgive him. He honestly thinks I just need some time to clam down and I will be back. Is that were the apparent harrassement will start? Cuz Im a little confused as to the honestly and the "leaving me alone".....it doesnt seem right. Something feels too good to be true....any thoughts?? Im relieved, Im scared, Im confused, Im excited. The life of whores and no money, no friends and a family that hates u will get old. I hope that at some point I can watch him hit rock bottom and stay there.... That would make me really HAPPY!!!! Thanks for you support ladies......means a lot!!
Jul 8 - 4PM (Reply to #25)
sassyredhead
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Oh, honey...

Bless you, honey! Hurts like h*ll... But you know as well as I do that they don't get it when you try to explain it to them while you're together and they won't get it now that you're exercising NC... I think that is the worst of it - no closure. My step-dad is a Narc, and when my mom finally left him after 16 years, she COMPLETELY fell apart - had a nervous breakdown. It's because she had no closure - no sincere apology... None, to this day. I think this will be the hardest part when I finally work up the courage to leave - no closure, no remorse, no VALIDATION.
Jul 8 - 9AM (Reply to #19)
quietude (not verified)
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whatever

Agree, the friend's just passing on his toxic B.S. but it's still exposing yourself to it. Cut them both off and anyone else who would like to play the part of the go-between. That feeling of excitement and relief you have will be amplified once you CUT this desease of a human being out of your life. You're starting to take steps, keep up that momentum and soon you'll see...it gets easier.
Jul 8 - 2PM (Reply to #20)
whatever2009
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HUMILIATED!!

Im so embarrassed, I love him. I love this sick twisted asshole. Im shattered at the fact he thinks we can just go back like nothing happened. He wont even fess up. Hes waiting for me to tell him what he did wrong. I cant even imagine him touching another women, it makes me so ill. I wish I could become NUMB, and erase the last 2 years. I wish I could hurt him and make him pay. I wish I could turn back in time, and open my eyes. I wish he understood how good I really am. I wish I didnt believe he had potential....I always gave him the benefit of the doubt because I seen his potential. Im a fool. Im on an emotional rollarcoaster by myself now. No one likes to ride alone. Im up and down...happy then sad...starving then nauseous. I feel unrepairable.
Jul 8 - 10PM (Reply to #23)
jenn99 (not verified)
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they're sick and awful..my ex n does the same thing...except his is more subtle...he tells me after not seeing me a while, ignornig me playing games, basically cheating "tonite wear some heels and go meet a guy and do this sexual act with him"...um why? and i dont want to or ever will.. well because...im sure he's cheating...so those days he tells me to do it..I guess it makes those sickos feel better to make everyone a cheater...except mine is more extreme in the sense taht he's cheating on me, not allowing me to see or visit him, using me, and telling me to get with other guys...the next week when his 'gf, bf, sex partner' whoever is 'gone' then he's back with 'me' and suddenly i can't even talk about another guy and the thought of hanging out with a guy platonically is 'cheating'..and he is going ballistic trying to get me to be with him..so whatever happened to..."going out with a guy and doing sexual acts" one week, and the next even breathing about another guy is cheating..they're sick...they have no morals conscience nothing...they don't care about anyone or anything....not even themselves...they jsut care about their compulsive devious acts and not much else...they are lethal poisonous...and they strike when least expected and will do the most heinous acts that you can't imagine comprehendible...u even think, there's no way they could do that, but wth an N if it's too cruel to be true, then they're doing it...
Jul 9 - 12PM (Reply to #24)
whatever2009
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just sick...

Wow! Mine did the exact same thing. They want you to stay even with them. That way they can keep you around and you cant hate them, cuz you do it too. Its is sick. I also think they enjoy watching you try and figure it out. You sit there wondering "why would you want me to do that"? I wonder....do they want you to hurt them?
Jul 8 - 5PM (Reply to #22)
Barbara (not verified)
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breathe whatever

you don't love him - its the brainwashing & mind control talking. Have you read WWLP? If not do so PLEASE PLEASE get yourself into therapy ASAP - even for short term - before this obvious PTSD of yours gets much worse. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ WHAT TRAUMA DOES TO PEOPLE by Patrick J. Carnes Exploitive relationships can create trauma bonds-chains that link a victim to someone who is dangerous to them. Divorce, employee relations, litigation of any type, incest and child abuse, family and marital systems, domestic violence, hostage negotiations, kidnapping, professional exploitation and religious abuse are all areas of trauma bonding. All these relationship sshare one thing: they are situations of incredible intensity or importance where there is an exploitation of trust or power. In The Betrayal Bond Patrick Carnes presents an in-depth study of these relationships, why they form, who is most susceptible, and how they become so powerful. He shows how to recognize when traumatic bonding has occurred and gives a checklist for examining relationships. He then provides steps to safely extricate from these relationships. This is a book you will turn to again and again for inspiration and insight, while professionals will find it an invaluable reference work. ~~~~~ After a traumatic experience, the human system of self-preservation seems to go onto permanent alert, as if the danger might return at any moment. — Judith Herman, Trauma and Recovery Lois was only twenty-two. Fresh out of college with a business degree in hand, she had landed a fabulous job with a large printing firm. She was ecstatic. She worked hard. The company gave her a car. She was attractive and fun. Her hard work and enthusiasm made up for her inexperience. Plus, she had support. Her boss, the marketing director, was also young by many people's standards. Nearing thirty, she already had eight years of business experience. The company had grown dramatically and many chalked it up to her skill and untiring efforts. She took Lois under her wing and they became good colleagues and friends. One day the marketing director left the office in tears. A memo came around saying she had resigned. Lois tried to reach her at home but there was no response to the messages she left. The president of the company asked Lois to come to his office. He talked of his sadness that the marketing director was no longer with the company. He also said that he now had a problem; he had no one to run marketing. He offered Lois the job. Lois immediately accepted. She had mixed emotions because of the loss of her supervisor and because little was known about why she left, just the tears. Yet Lois knew this was a tremendous opportunity for her. The president told her that he had taken a chance on her previous supervisor being so young and it worked out well. Lois received a bonus and a significant raise. She threw herself into her work. A week later the president asked Lois to his office to review her first week's efforts. Lois could tell he was not totally pleased with what she had done but was unsure what he wanted. Then he launched into a description of what made her predecessor successful. Critical were her former boss's "special" relationships with customers. In fact, for the buying agents of their key accounts she would perform oral sex. That's how the company kept business. As he talked, Lois went numb with disbelief. She came out of it when he said that their customers liked office sex in certain ways and he would show her how. Then he approached her. Lois stood up and told him that she would not do this for any price. She grabbed her personal belongings and left the company in tears. She was devastated. Friends and family gathered around Lois. They found her a therapist. The therapist said that she had experienced an assault and would need to work it through or her life would suffer. Lois pulled herself together and responded by saying that it was only a proposition and she would simply forget about it. The therapist was right. About a month after leaving her job, Lois started having nightmares about the company president and his office. She had difficulty motivating herself to find work. Interviews went badly. She moved back in with her parents, which added even more stress. She shut down sexually. She was critical of her boyfriend who, in fact, was very supportive. That relationship ended. She found herself continually angry with her former supervisor. She berated herself for being naive enough to think that the company's success had anything to do with marketing. She was angry with her former employer yet obsessed with what was happening in the company. The betrayal for Lois was that nothing was as it had seemed. None of her ability, hard work, enthusiasm or creativity mattered. She had believed that people had taken her seriously. In reality management had been grooming her to be the company courtesan. How could she ever trust anyone again? Lois was also a victim of her own ability to cope. At the time of the betrayal, she felt that it was something she could handle. Calling on ancient family traditions of facing adversity, toughing it out and forging ahead, she dismissed the significance of what had happened. Only in therapy did she start to understand that she had been victimized and admit that it was traumatic for her. Like many of us, Lois learned that she looked right at it and did not see it. Stress becomes traumatic when danger, risk, fear or anxiety is present. For Lois, she lost in a matter of minutes all that she thought she had. Further, the insidious fear was planted that the only way she could be successful was by using her body. Her talent for business didn't matter. Plus, the unwanted advance of someone who had so much power over her well-being placed her in jeopardy. Yet Lois had defenses that helped her cope with the problem. She tended to normalize and minimize. Her body, however, knew. When in jeopardy, our body mobilizes its defenses. All our physical systems achieve high states of readiness. Adrenaline flows. The electrochemical reactions between synapses in the brain accelerate. It's just like an automobile driven at the maximum possible speed. The sustained, flat-out performance pushes the car's mechanical system past its limits. Pretty soon, things start to break down. Our bodies and minds will react the same way. When pushed past their limits, they begin to fall apart. Unlike a car, however, our bodies and minds can regenerate and recover. Some traumas that occur as a result of betrayal create damage that is residual. That is, we do not see it or understand it until later. Some traumas, especially over time, can alter how our systems operate. Two factors are essential in understanding traumatic experiences: how far our systems are stretched and for how long. Some events happen only once or just a few times, but the impact is so great that trauma occurs. The experience Lois had with the president of the company only lasted a few minutes, but the impact was significant and enduring. Rape, accident, assault and some types of child molestation fit this extreme form of trauma. So would being terminated without warning from a job after years of loyal service and excellent performance. Some trauma experiences are relatively minor, but they happen every day. The hurt accumulates. Many acts of child neglect, for example, in themselves are not that serious. Every parent has moments of not being able to cover all the bases. A consistent pattern of neglect, however, creates incredible anxiety in a child and leaves serious lifelong wounds. Other examples include living in a toxic marriage or working in a toxic corporation. Little acts of degradation, manipulation, secrecy and shame on a daily basis take their toll. Trauma by accumulation sneaks up on its victims. The compromises we make to trauma can deaden us over time. As one man described his recovery from a traumatizing marriage: "It was a full year after we split when I realized that my back felt different. It was relaxed and I could bend without effort. I had spent so many years braced for the next outburst, my back muscles were always tensed up. I never realized that while I was married." It's like walking into a room with a bad smell. The longer you stay in the room, the more the smell will seem to dissipate. Your olfactory system actually adjusts to the offensive odor. It's only by leaving the room that you will recover your sensitivity to the odor. It's the same with high stress, danger or anxiety; your body and mind will adjust-and pay for it. Only after being away from traumatic circumstances will your sensitivity return. Betrayals that cause horrendous and long-lasting traumas are the worst. Such was the Holocaust, or Vietnam, or Russia after Stalin's purge followed by the Nazi invasion. These emotional scars can be so severe that generations descended from those surviving will react in ways that still reflect the original trauma. No amount of what appears to be normal makes it safe. Patterns and attitudes evolve far beyond the individual and are incorporated into the fabric of family and society. trauma reaction trauma arousal trauma blocking trauma splitting trauma abstinence trauma shame trauma repetition trauma bonds While this book (THE BETRAYAL BOND) will focus on the insane loyalties of betrayal bonding, it is important to understand the other seven dysfunctional options that people have to cope with betrayal. These options often become significant allies of one another. So if you have one, you probably have some of the others as well. In the interests of understanding how these work together we need to understand each separately. http://www.sexhelp.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
Jul 8 - 3PM (Reply to #21)
quietude (not verified)
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re: humiliated

Hey girl, I can relate. I did love my ex too, enough to almost marry him. What I thought the relationship was and HIS version were completely different. We fall in love with the IMAGE. I wound up despising the REAL person. It took me reading a lot about narcs to know that I'm not an idiot for being 'had'. He will never fess up, because he doesn't think there is anything wrong with him. You are asking someone who is deeply programmed, to change the way they think about EVERYTHING. Yes, you can 'repair' yourself hon, they can't...to me, that's scary.
Jul 8 - 8AM (Reply to #16)
Barbara (not verified)
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whatever2009

hard to say but for you - NO CONTACT!! and don't let his roommate/ friend know another thing. NO MORE! ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
Jul 8 - 1PM (Reply to #17)
whatever2009
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ANGRY!!!

Im just so angry, like I want him to suffer. I want him to hurt, the supply is gone....now hurt. everyone thinks your the BIGGEST idiot....damage to your supply...now hurt. FALL APART.....you supply is gone in soooooooooooooo many ways.
Jul 8 - 1PM (Reply to #18)
Barbara (not verified)
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whatever

He won't hurt... he can't love and he can't hurt. He is evil, whatever - E V I L. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free articles & information for abuse victims: http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com Effective Coaching for Victims of Pathologicals http://one2one4victims.webs.com/
Jul 7 - 8AM
whatever2009
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ouch!

thanks all. I dont understand.....Well I do understand. I have never hurt like this....EVER. He is telling everyone "he told me" what kinda of guy he was. He told me he would sleep with another girl..."so this is MY fault". He is still denying that he even did anything. However his actions were the opposite. He acted like my boyfriend for the last 2 years....but I was suppose to know. Is this really happening because I feel as tho its a nightmare. He reassured me he would never hurt me. Will I ever get over this? Will I now be so damaged I will never know, when a relationship is real. His roommate thinks at some point I should talk to him, or else he is going to point the finger at me, and say I never gave him a chance. I will never know how he feels or get closure.....I really dont see at point. He will never fess up, or agree,he is insane. I WANT HIM TO PAY!!!! How do I make him pay? Im so sad.
Jul 9 - 10AM (Reply to #14)
trueblue101
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No closure

It is very hard for a Narc to give you closure- you are going to give it to yourself. I believe that not enough time has passed for you to di this but in time, you will understand what I am writing.
Jul 7 - 9AM (Reply to #13)
Jodie
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That is exactly how I felt

That is exactly how I felt about my husband (still do), I want him to PAY!!! I want justice!! It's only human to feel this way when you've been so wronged for no reason. I was told my NH finding a gf was "fate." also "I should have appreciated what I had." are u kidding me? Whatever, you WILL heal from this. It's so new that all you can see/feel is the incapacitating pain. You are still in shock, this will turn to anger, grief, sadness and eventually acceptance. The mourning phase is cyclical. You are in the midst of it right now and a light at the end of the tunnel seems so unimaginable. You will get there, stay the course and no contact at all. Your bf is such a piece of trash N for blaming you. What a coward he is! You are soooooo much better off without this clown. We are all here for you! "Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

"Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

Jul 7 - 9AM (Reply to #12)
quietude (not verified)
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whatever

He's going to say what he wants regardless. Even when they're with us, who knows what they tell their buddies??? ....probably the same kind of crap. He can't let himself look bad to others, so he's going to make any kind of shit up he has to. Your REAL friends will know it's crap, and your REAL friends won't engage him in conversation. His roommate is an ass! No, you won't get closure from your ex, that has to come from within eventually...if at all. After all the pain my ex inflicted on me, I don't WANT his kind of closure anyway...I do not want anything from him. He is a source of warped, twisted thinking, nothing that comes out of his mouth is reliable. You feel so damaged now because it's all fresh. It's going to take time to deprogram from him and for you to start learning how to spot these people...but first, just deal with detoxifying yourself. You are very capable of continuing with a happy, healthy life...with a lot of support and validation...and guess what, HE IS NOT. I look at this as a blessing. What kind of a hellish prison it must be to be a narcissist. I thank God for helping me be a healthy individual, mind & spirit.
Jul 6 - 2PM
neveragain
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How GROSS!

Oh My GOD, I can't even imagine how you must have felt seeing that video. I would be MORE than devastated. Now you know for SURE that the dream is really dead. Your relationship was all built on the false self he showed you in the beginning. Using your feelings of hurt and ESPECIALLY your anger can keep you motivated to really enforce No Contact and do the things needed to GET OUT. My heart goes out to you and I am so sorry. Hugs, neveragain
Jul 6 - 2PM (Reply to #10)
quietude (not verified)
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neveragain

I have to agree, no matter how I feel about my ex, there is no way that I want to KNOW ABOUT or SEE ANYTHING going on with him whatsoever. I'm sure it would make my physically ill to see something like this. What a nightmare. I know it has to do with not getting total closure on the relationship, and still having mixed feelings because of the whole number they do on you. I have prayed that my ex found another supply so he'd leave me the hell alone. Other than that, no details please!!! My heart really does go out to whatever2009 as well.
Jul 6 - 1PM
cassiemay
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give it to your lawyer

Please make use of this however you can. Secondly, realize, sweetheart that this is the end of the road for the two of you. I know you have been struggling for so long. This should be IT for you. Imagine on with him in any way shape or form after what you've seen. It's not possible, IMHO. I feel so much for you, but you've got to face up to it and move ahead. It IS possible. I've considered suicide so many times I can't even say, but it's not worth it. Think about those you love, about YOURself, about what happiness and peaceful times may lie ahead. Trust me. It does get better. xxoo CM
Jul 6 - 10AM
Suzie (not verified)
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whatever2009

hey, I know that exact thing you are feeling. It is so scary and painful. don't give in to your "need to know" by asking him painful questions. I did that and it almost killed me to here the answers. He is a cheating pig. He doesn't deserve to ever hear your voice again. If you don't have kids together than you don't ever need to see him again. I know from personal experiance that this is one of the worst feelings in the world. I have never felt so much pain and fear, except for when my little brother died. I am here if you want to talk. I will be back on the message board tonight. Leah
Jul 6 - 1PM (Reply to #7)
Jodie
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Leah and Whatever

First off Leah I agree with the crushing pain being worse than even death, I too lost my brother and even his death wasn't as painful as what I'm going thru now with my husband having a girlfriend. Whatever, you must be strong baby girl, nothing we can say will ease your pain. Come here for support, we all know what this feels like. The only way out is thru. He absolutely doesn't deserve an explanation. Do u think God is going to give Satan an explanation when he finally deals with him? Hang in there. You deserve so much better and will eventually find happiness apart from this scumbag. "Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

"Cry now because you lost him or cry later because you have him."

Jul 6 - 11AM (Reply to #4)
whatever2009
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I hurt like hell.

I hurt like hell. Most people dont get the luxury of actually seeing it. I was that lucky girl. Im mad at myself, I was lead to believe I ment something. The footage was so horrible, I felt like my heart sunk watching it. Any ideas on what he will do now? He is pretty much running circles trying to figure out what he did that was so horrible.Or pretending to actually. I hate surprises. He is calling everyone and trying to figure it out, apparently going crazy. What a douche bag, he is just trying to figure out "which thing" I found out. so pathetic!! I need to stay angry, because anger is what gets me thro.
Jul 8 - 6AM (Reply to #6)
Lisa E. Scott
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Whatever

I'm so sorry for what you had to see. No one should have to endure that kind of visual, but like you said, at least now you know for sure and can move on with your life. It's going to hurt for awhile, but you need to go through the grieving process so you can move on. Please know we're here for you always. I'm so sorry. Big Hugs, Lisa
Jul 6 - 1PM (Reply to #5)
quietude (not verified)
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hurts

whatever, you need to just acknowledge that it is going to HURT. I stopped fighting my pain and just felt it and then did things for myself to feel better. It's a process. He is going nuts because he is like a vampire in need of blood. Is there anything good or healthy about that? HELL NO! You've been hanging out here reading enough to know why they react like this. Tell your friends to "butt out" in a gently way, and the friends who can't are not true friends. They are drama queens/kings that need their fix. If anyone is tempted to communicate anything about your ex to you, tell them 'NOT INTERESTED'. Stay away from Myspace, FB, whatever it is he's into that you would view to potentially cause you more pain and anguish. If it took that 'footage' to make you say 'ENOUGH' then so be it. Honestly, it may have taken something drastic to make you realize you are DONE. It's awful, and no, you didn't deserve this pain, but it is what it is. Anger is a very good motivator to help you take steps forward to healing. Be good to yourself, know it's gonna hurt...YES it hurts less the more you take care of yourself. Know it takes time, and only you will know what that means for you. Do whatever you need to in order to STAY AWAY from this creep! Keep it up, girl. Don't give in to that evil bastard again.
Jul 6 - 9AM
sassyredhead
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whatever2009

I am so sorry this happened to you! I could say it's a good thing it happened and that now you have proof to back up your suspicions - not to mention validate once and for all your feelings. I could tell you that now you are embarking on a journey of freedom... But I can see you're hurting like h*ll right now, and it breaks my heart! We are here for you!!!
Jul 6 - 9PM (Reply to #2)
startnew (not verified)
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whatever2009

I am so sorry for what you had to see! That must have been just awful! Just want you to know that we're here for you...big hugs!!!