So this is what rock bottom feels like...

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#1 Aug 1 - 12AM
RubyWoo
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So this is what rock bottom feels like...

To make things short, it has been a horrible weekend.

Saturday evening - The N contacted me saying he was packing his things from our home to move out and it was breaking his heart. Of course that made me fall apart, cry, and feel like literally dying. I said that was it then and he would never see me again as I want ZERO contact. 10 minutes into the conversation he said he had to think about it, because he can't stand to lose me forever.

Sunday - Emails back and forth, him saying that he loves me and will always hate himself for leaving if he goes but needs to get his shit together and be a better person, blah blah. I wait for a decision.

Sunday night - I call home and he's not there. Obviously he's gone out, while I've been a nervous wreck all day waiting. I call his mobile to see what decision he's taken and I just lose it and start screaming at him saying he's fucked up the best thing he ever had (trust me, with the life he's had our relationship and stability was a blessing) He says that he's not home because he was moving his stuff to a friend's house. I said well I see your decision is made then.

He tells me (behold!!) that he's only staying at his friends to find his own place, but we will see each other all the time. I literally screamed WHAT THE FUCK?

Literally 5 minutes later, he tells me to please meet with him in a park, that he is scared and thinks he has made the wrong decision. I say NO, the moment you put your shit in the car you lost me forever.

Then I get a text saying he wanted to see me because he thinks he has fucked up and made the wrong choice, he feels lost.

That was last night, and not a word since then.

What is he trying to do here? Why is he trying to confuse me? Is he a N at all or just someone who's really confused?

I haven't been to our home yet (staying at my parents) and I know the moment I open the door and see his things gone I'm just going to fall to the floor. I haven't slept all night.

What's going on?

Aug 1 - 3PM
Scoop
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When a psychopath gets wind

When a psychopath gets wind of a good hunk of supply comming his way he will puff up like a baloon . When you screamed down the phone as he took his stuff away you where having a normal reaction , what is abnormal is the reaction the narc would have to that . You where totaly right not to have met him because i think he would have dumped you again , they get off with the carrot and the stick move . My narc would ask me repeatedly to his house when he dumped me (6 times) and he would put on this kind voise on the phone and say "i really miss you baby" and i would get there and he would say "i really love you but we have to break up " and what he did was stand back and watch the fireworks he had set off , I would cry my eyes out and he would be jumping around with glee , like the cat that got the cream ... NO CONTACT ! as you say he has made his decision when he got his stuff , any more from you now will just be playing into his control game ... and you are in control here , you are with the girlfriends on the board and we are willing you to stop the contact . Do not entertain him . If he is real then he will move a mountain to seek youre forgivness ,untill that mountain is moved DO NOTHING !!! No contact . Scoop x
Aug 1 - 8AM
Warrior Princess
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Roller Coaster Ride From Hell

Ruby: It stinks to be going through all of this. If you can step back for a moment and look at this in a very rational way, it seems that this man is a drama queen. "Normal" men who wish to end a relationship with a woman would calmly sit down and explain that the relationship is not working and how he is feeling. He would wait to hear your responses and be very respectful. You both would then try to figure out how this can be done with regard to your shared home, dividing personal belongings and really getting a game plan together that works for the both of you. His wishy-washy, abusive manner tells me he is probably a narcissist who gets off in seeing you react to his emotional abuse. This is called, "Narcissistic supply," something all N's need from someone to feel important (while emotionally degrading another- sick. Can you imagine setting him aside, having no contact, and focusing on you and your ill father who needs you right now? You do not deserve to be treated this way by anyone. Reach down in your heart, pray and ask yourself if you deserve to be treated so badly? You deserve, like all of us, to be treated with respect and love, and have a significant other who comes to your aid with open arms when you are grieving over the impending death of your father. Nothing less than this is acceptable. Please keep yourself away from this self-destructive man who gets off in his drama. Someone else is out there who will see your inner and outer beauty and treat you like the princess you are! Hang in there and give your dad a huge hug.
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #17)
RubyWoo
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Thank you for your beautiful

Thank you for your beautiful words! I don't deserve this, I don't deserve this treatment or to be dumped in such a cruel and confusing way. I'm just not sure of how I stop having feelings for him, or wishing he was there when I wake up in the morning. But I'll have to force myself and pretend he never existed.
Aug 1 - 9AM (Reply to #18)
Warrior Princess
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Hanging On...

Ruby: I remember reading something about holding on to feelings we have for these men. The charm, the sweetness, the focus they had on us in the beginning of the relationship and the pockets of times they could say something kind or be supportive IS WHAT WE ARE HOLDING ONTO--but these "moments" were their false selves drawing us in so we would take the other crap. If you look very clearly at the whole picture, you will see those times as the N's manipulative tactic to keep you hooked on them. They are shells. They appear kind, empathetic and true, but their real selves are shallow, cruel, and heartless. They have NO capacity to be emotionally honest with themselves or another human being. Who wants to be with this kind of person? I wonder how i could have fallen for this- you will be fine and this too shall pass. Again, give your Dad a big hug and keep moving. You can do it!
Aug 1 - 8AM
Sparrow
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DO NOT CALL HIM! Exactly what

DO NOT CALL HIM! Exactly what Hunter said, I second that motion.......... stay clear from the loser! Stay strong!
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #14)
RubyWoo
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Thanks Sparrow, I'm going NC

Thanks Sparrow, I'm going NC right this second. I'm going to take a nap and after probably go to the hairdressers and get my hair done!
Aug 1 - 9AM (Reply to #15)
Sparrow
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Good for you Ruby! Always

Good for you Ruby! Always nice to do something nice for yourself! Enjoy your day, put him out of your head best you can...........and know that nothing will ever change. NC for sure, you have done all that you can do, to no avail....... Enjoy your day, you deserve it!
Aug 1 - 7AM
BadaBing
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cake & eat it too

@ Ruby Woo For some reason I am seeing so many EX N qualities in the descriptions of other members situations He is fucking with you Ruby! Cut him off! go NC for 7 days - just try to disengage for a week Ruby! He doesn't care about you, he is being wishy washy and messing with your head! Do not be at his beck and call if he left you CUT HIM OFF AND NOW Ignore all his text for 7 days, let him get a taste of life without you. sorry it hurts so much hang in there try to go NC!
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #12)
RubyWoo
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I think you're right, I need

I think you're right, I need to be alone and start NC. I have my flaws but I am a great person on so many levels. He wants to "be with me" but not "live together" but "spend most of the time with me". All this when my dad is in hospice from cancer and probably dying within the next weeks or days. Apparently it's hard to understand that I need stability and a 100% commitment during this time when I'm losing my father. It's just shocking that I love someone so much who keeps telling me I've pushed them away, I've done this I've done that. I was just on the phone with him and he screamed at me "GOODBYE" Well so be it. NC starts now.
Aug 1 - 7AM
Hunter
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What's going on?

He's fucking "CRAZY" and will make you crazy in the process. Do not, I repeat Do not talk to him again! Do you hear me????? I hate these Fuckers!! WTF, is right! You can't win, you can't get back what you once had! Again, He's CRAZY!! Pay now to freedom later! Hunter
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #9)
RubyWoo
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I hear you Hunter! I'm a

I hear you Hunter! I'm a beautiful person, with great qualities. He doesn't know what he wants now and that is not my problem!
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #10)
Hunter
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Ruby

You you are, beautiful! Don't let this cracker destroy you! Hunter
Aug 1 - 6AM
Puzzle
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Hey Ruby, Sorry to hear what

Hey Ruby, Sorry to hear what you are going through, we have all been there. In regards to your question, is he an N?? You are on this site so I guess he must portray at least some Narc tendencies. If I had yelled and screamed at my Narc like you did he would have turned it all back on to me. Everything was my fault, and if I ever called him out he would deal me a barrage of abuse. I am not sure if this was just him being an extremely abusive personality or qualities of a Narc, as a lot of girls on here have ex N's like yours who chase and plead...to me this isn't really Narc like, they have too much pride and work in more subtle ways. I know that my ex is 100% Narc, for years I thought he had a split personality. My ex did the same to me about 5 times in 5 years. "I don't want to be in a serious relationship." "I want to be on my own." etc etc. Each time more heart breaking because I would always take him back. Is this the first time he has done this to you? It is enough to send you insane, doubt yourself, and your self esteem. Take it from someone who has heard this speech countless times throughout my relationship, they don't change. He will keep reeling you in and then leaving you until you put an end to it. I was sick of being dumped and chased all the time, I ended it this time. You deserve so much better than to be with someone who doesn't even know if he wants to be with you. Think about that for a minute. He is calling the shots and now you laid down the law, so he is freaking out. Maybe he feels if he completely closes the door he may not be able to open it if he can't find intimacy elsewhere...harsh, but so true. This is a classic Narc move, they can never be alone and unless they have something else to go to they will always be uncertain. I think now is the time to put his decision to the side and think about what you want. You know what you want, so don't you deserve to be with someone who does too? Focus on your own life, don't beg and plead...this is what he wants, it is all about the ego. Start taking mini steps, go no contact, don't engage. To completely rid yourself of the Narc it is up to you to stop the game....otherwise your life will continue to go around in circles like a washing machine on spin cycle. Rinse, lather, repeat.....this was my life for 5 years and even though it sucks and hurts like hell...at least someone is not sending me insane anymore. I have ownership over my feelings now.
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #7)
RubyWoo
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Oh it has turned on to me,

Oh it has turned on to me, I'm the one that is at fault, has treated him like shit for 2 years, the one drawing a line in the sand and not willing to do it "his way". I do think he has definite N traits although not diagnosed. He always says his parents didn't love him, no one treated him right. Now he has a woman completely in love with him wanting to be with him, and I'm not good enough. He lacks empathy and even has called himself a sociopath a number of times and said he doesn't feel much for people. I called him just then and was trying to be nice and he just kept losing it, raising his voice and getting angry at me. After this conversation I'm starting to think I even caused World War Two. Last year we went on a 1 month break, but we were seeing each other, spending good times together... and we worked it out. This time around I'm the devil, he hasn't wanted to see me or even talked nicely, it's all anger anger anger. I know he won't change. I guess I just wish he could try therapy at least. Funnily enough he told me to go to couple's counseling and after a session together, the therapist wanted to see us separately. I kept going for 2 months, he didn't. He admitted today that the only reason he proposed therapy was so that "I could hear from someone else that I have a problem and I wasn't right"
Aug 1 - 6AM
RubyWoo
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I guess No Contact is the

I guess No Contact is the only way to go now. Forget that he ever existed in my life and move on. It's just so painful after you love someone so much and they keep telling you "I love you but now I need to be with myself, blah blah" Yeah right. I feel like I just crashed against the floor from a 60 storey high building.
Aug 1 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
Scoop
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You dont forget he ever

You dont forget he ever exsisted , that is impossible . To honer the love you feel is an amazing thing , its youres and you own it. The road to recovery is long and painful , dark with hilarity dotted in between but in time it becomes the greatist live experience you will ever have , Not that that helps right now . The victim leaves the relationship , that is ALLWAYS the case . Its when we say "we deserve better than this " is the time we leave .. The weasel narc will always try and come back for more , be it 20 years form now they never forget good supply . Keep strong , it hurts like hell , aint that the truth , Head up girl ... Scoop xx
Aug 1 - 5AM
58 and going strong
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Ruby

So sorry to see what you are going through. There is a reason you are on this site. Just imagine how wonderful and peaceful your life will be once he's really gone. For now, count your blessings: You have your parents and all of us here to lean on, and maybe even a good friend or two where you are. Try to sleep and feel loved.
Aug 1 - 8AM (Reply to #2)
RubyWoo
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Thank you! :) To be honest I

Thank you! :) To be honest I don't know how I'm going to deal with all this. I guess I'll have to take it one minute at a time.
Aug 1 - 3PM (Reply to #3)
peacelily76
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You poor girl - big hug

This is awful! I had all of this from my ex. The day I left he was crying his eyes out and wept when I took the cat. He had brought in an army of 'friends' to support him through my arrival and departure that day. I was made to feel like the enemy even though I was the wronged party after three years of the worst insidious psychological abuse. He had even said to me that a psychiatrist friend of his had said he thought I had bi-polar disorder. He even texted my mum to tell her this! Needless to say I have nothing of the sort and am a lovely, kind human being. Within 4 weeks of me leaving he was all over online dating sites and got a woman pregnant. Then he shacked up with her. I tried to warn this woman about him and I was told I would be sued for slander. He had brainwashed her into believing I was a psycho. These people will stoop to the lowest lows to make themselves appear amazing. They don't care who they walk over to get to their goal. Some might call this survival of the fittest. I call it bollocks. So, honey, go NC. It will be very raw and I can't promise hat it immediately gets better but you have some real feelings to work through now and you need all the strength you can muster to work through, know you were never wrong and nothing is your fault. Okay? NOTHING IS YOUR FAULT! I really feel for you right now. This is so hard but it does get better I promise. Stay strong and stick with your family who love you and know how beautiful and caring you are. They value you more than anyone and that's where you need to be. xxxx