The silent treatment

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#1 May 16 - 4AM
Scoop
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The silent treatment

http://abuse101.com/silenttreatmentandabuse.html

When the narc stops communicating this is what he is really saying .For thoses of you who are going through this right now or have been a victum of this in the past please know that it IS an insidious form of abuse designed to inflict maximum pain .
Big Love Scoop xx

May 17 - 5PM
Kiwi2005
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Exact determination of Silent Treatment

Scoop, I ignored him for 3 days, then drunk dialed him and he continued contact. Then I ignored him for another 2 days and then he iniated contact on day 3... when I responded, he ignored 2x, Finally I emailed and he texted me saying "I cant be worried about me, u, and us. I just cant right now. Hopefully you really understand and can just be happy" Guess I was abusing him, whooops! So I never responded to that and don't plan on EVER responding to anything he has to say. Not only was this one diagnosed with NPD, I believe he's Bipolar as well and a complete "loser" However he hasn't responded... so we wouldn't consider him not coming after me silent treatment, or would we? -A bit confused...
May 17 - 8PM (Reply to #29)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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The difference between The Silent Treatment

and No Contact is that they use The Silent Treatment to punish and hurt us in the relationship. They use it to control, manipulate and train us to accommodate their needs. They also use it arbitrarily as a weapon to confuse and abuse us -to send mixed messages. When we go No Contact, it is to save and protect ourselves from their emotional & psychological abuse, control, manipulation, lies, perpetual mind games, and in some cases, physical harm. We are trying to escape the spell they've had us under, get out of the fog, take our lives back, and heal. The only way to do this is to get away from the thing that is continuing to injure us.
May 16 - 1PM
michele115 (not verified)
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Thanks for the article scoop

Initially I had no idea that the Silent Treatment was a form of abuse, I never thought about it... I know that at times I was guilty of doling it out, I shared about that somewhere on here... BUT the distinction is that in my case, it was a defense mechanism to HIS covert abuse of which I was also unaware. Hugs!
May 16 - 10AM
Happy1
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I find his silent treatment

I find his silent treatment to be blessing right now. Bring it on stupid narc! Don't contact me anymore!!!
May 16 - 10AM
LilithErisRose
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Worst ever

The silent treatment is the worst ever. N used to get mad at me for some invisible transgression and I would go to call him and my friggin' telephone number would be blocked. Seriously? When I told him how much it hurt me and how it made me feel, the answer I got was it was so he couldn't call me because I hurt him. It's nothing but a pathetic junior high form of control. Meanwhile, my cell is blocked but he would call for a zillion other numbers or e-mail me at work 30 times a day. :( all the time denying that he was attempting to control the channels of communication. He even tried to convince the therapist that it even though he understood it hurt me, he continued to do it because I was wrong to be hurt because that wasn't his intent. It still hurts even typing this, that this person held such little value of me... and I let this fool get in my head. :( Thanks for posting these types of articles Scoop.
May 16 - 10AM (Reply to #23)
terri
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LilithErisRose

"...I was wrong to be hurt because it wasn't his intent." I got this line of BS all the time!! He would honestly expect that he could do whatever he wanted, no matter how much hurt it was causing for me. Then be upset with ME because I GOT HURT! WTF!!! It never ceases to amaze me how similar these idiots all are!!

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 16 - 6PM (Reply to #25)
Veronrose
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Yep, I got that too.... Me:

Yep, I got that too.... Me: I'm a bit hurt by this. N: I'm sorry. Not my desire. Ya right.
May 16 - 2PM (Reply to #24)
Journey
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With you there Terri!

"I got this line of BS all the time!! He would honestly expect that he could do whatever he wanted, no matter how much hurt it was causing for me. Then be upset with ME because I GOT HURT! WTF!!!" Exactly! My exN most often reacted to any hurt or disappointment I expressed (or didn't express but he knew I felt), with the worst of his angry abuse. Further fueling the guilt I felt that I was causing so many difficulties when in reality I was always trying to smooth them over. What an ASS!

Journey on...

May 16 - 9AM
Hunter
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Silent Treatment

Yep, Welcome to my world! Guess What? Works both ways! Hunter
May 16 - 9AM
terri
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Just curious. How many of you

Just curious. How many of you would leave the situation yourself as a response to getting the silent treatment - then be accused by the narc of abandoning them? I can remember countless times that I would be totally ignored, sometimes even while sitting right across the table in a restaurant. My response would NOT be to try to talk it out with him but just remove myself entirely. I would then be accused of "walking out" on him. Anyone else have narcs that did this to you?

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 16 - 5PM (Reply to #20)
Redhead1
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You just hit on a big one for

You just hit on a big one for me. For our 10th anniversary I had my Dad babysit so we could go out to eat. The asshole ignored me the whole time. Plus gave me those "you disgust me" looks. A older lady he worked with walked by and he talked to her and never even introduce me. I was so niave at the time and it hurt me so bad. I use to think the silent treatment was he was just depressed, now I know it was punishment for. He would walk around the house and not speak or look at me for a week at a time. I would always ask if something was wrong and he would say no. He so fucked my head up for years, I am sooooooo happy to be out of that.
May 16 - 1PM (Reply to #19)
dudette
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I did that

and I only did it once...never to return... At the grand age of 39, I will not be given the silent treatment by some fat overgrown baby who's now 50.... my mum used to dish it out and I remember it well Bad luck I was feeling hormonal and pissed off at the time....
May 16 - 11AM (Reply to #17)
neverlookback
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all the time

just part of their sick games, I would try calling him and calling him and he was either on vacation or busy so I would stop and ignore him then when I finally answered he would say, Where have you been? I was starting to get worried about you, are you snubbing me? Sick games they just use that as an excuse so they can ONCE AGAIN blame us because THEY were off lying or trying to find a reason so they dont have to explain their absence. I KNOW ALL his games, he taught me well, he was a great one on changing the subject too, I would ask So when are we getting together and he would say, God it just poured here and I just got my lawn mowed, I am like WTF does that have to do with what I just asked you, good glad to know its fricking raining and your stupid fricking grass is cut, who gives a shit. Then he would pull this stunt too, oh oh I have to go my GF just pulled in the driveway, ya right nice try LIAR LIAR LIAR, and I have to go wash my cat.
May 16 - 2PM (Reply to #18)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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Mine pulled the same crap

Would not take my calls or answer my texts, so I would do the same as you and initially ignore his calls when he finally decided to bestow upon me his precious attention. Sometimes though I just wouldn't be available to take the call for legitimate reasons, and by call number 3 he'd leave a "hurt" and incensed message, "OK, I guess you really don't want to talk to me. I won't bother you again." Head games, always playing head games.
May 16 - 11AM (Reply to #16)
Lobo555
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Yep

Literally walked out on my narc once at a restaurant. He and I were having a discussion -- actually it was him telling me that he was still in love w/ an old girlfriend so didn't want a relationship with me. Then a friend of his walked in, he got up and went outside to talk to the friend. I waited about 5 mins. and left. Later he said it "wasn't cool" that I "walked out on" him. I told him I had no reason to stay. Then the hoovering started. . . . Blurgh.
May 16 - 10AM (Reply to #8)
heritage
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terri

omg...yes happened all the time. The silent treatment was av weekly thing with him. fn baby, Same thing when we would go out to dinner. he knew it made me uncomfortable so he loved doing it. i would mirror it back to him but since i was cutting off his supply he didn't like it. i hated imitating his behavior because it was not me at all but i did it to punish him. after his mask was off i use to look in the mirror and say "i hate the person i am becoming."
May 16 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
terri
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dentalas

Yep, we have been living in parallel universes. In fact, I think after going NC last year, and then (after letting myself get sucked back in last Fall) after NC this year, I actually have some guilt feelings and many doubts about myself because I also started mirroring the same behaviors back to him. For half of the relationship, I would (as normal people do) try to explain how his behavior was hurting me and damaging our relationship. But to no avail. I finally just gave up on being normal and healthy and starting stooping to his level and dumping his narc behaviors back onto him - silent treatments, raging, projection, gaslighting. You name it, I did it, especially after learning about what was going on. The difference was that I did it knowingly to hurt him and give him "a good dose of his own medicine". But, being normal with a conscience, I couldn't keep that up. It was crazy! I was miserable and finally realized that I had to completely get out before I lost my mind. Slowly I can feel myself returning to "normal" but my life is like a yo-yo. Up one day, down the next. One day at a time.

Believe in yourself!
Terri

May 16 - 4PM (Reply to #13)
Susan32
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I enjoyed dishing it back on him...

It was after the final D&D, when a friend&I came to the conclusion (using what resources we had on the internet 11 years ago) that the ex-Psych prof had NPD. He had WANTED from the get-go to bring me down, to ruin an innocent young virgin, possibly drive her to suicide or madness. So... not only did I dish his behaviors back onto him... I gave him the silent treatment, subjected him to the endless lecturing, talked to him in a condescending way (I used the same voice as I had with first graders), treated him as if his feelings didn't matter, subjected him to public ridicule/humiliation (my classmates backed me on this one with the senior skit) Not only was I KNOWINGLY hurting him... but it creeped him out that I was getting a thrill out of it. He ENJOYED seeing me in pain, begging for him, triangulating me against his girlfriend (which didn't work)... and the sadistic pleasure was MINE. He was my OBJECT of ridicule... and I do mean, object. I was giving him the medicine... but I was getting the spoonful of sugar. He once angrily snapped "STOP SMILING!" and I refused. He was putty in my hands. I didn't know I had a sadistic side... but I guess I was a mental dominatrix at one level. I was ready to make him go all over campus with a ball gag&on all fours.
May 16 - 9PM (Reply to #14)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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ROFLMA!

"I was ready to make him go all over campus with a ball gag&on all fours." Thanks for the laugh! This image is hilarious.
May 17 - 5PM (Reply to #15)
Susan32
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Unfortunately, he'd probably like it

The ex-Psych prof looooved it that his name is Hebrew for dog (in plural, it's kelabim, usually translated as "male prostitutes" in the Bible) He wouldn't have minded the leash, really. The ex-P was obsessed with "War and Peace", in which the Narc Pierre, a fat bookworm, engages in sadomasochistic rites with the Freemasons. I think he liked the idea of being beat up by other guys... and he saw himself as the fat bookworm. He even called himself that. But he's too fat&ugly for a Lady GaGa show. She wants her chorus boys young&handsome. And preferably SLENDER. He wouldn't have made it onto Rihanna's "S&M" video. Photoshopping can only do so much.
May 16 - 2PM (Reply to #12)
Smitten Kitten (not verified)
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They deserve nothing less

than a taste of their own medicine. With reasonable people you can explain how what they're doing makes you feel, and they can see things from your perspective. This doesn't work with N/P's. No amount of reasoning or explaining will get your point across, so the only recourse you're left with is to throw it right back at them. Even then they don't "get it." They can sure dish it out but can't take it. They could cheat on you and then be incredulous you won't talk to them anymore. They have no ability to see cause and effect and that what they do is the REASON for your response. I wouldn't ever feel bad for mirroring his abuse back at him.
May 16 - 1PM (Reply to #11)
Scoop
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Terri

I threw it all back on him too but i dont feel bad , when the hovering began i fucked with his head as much as i could .. he got mad as hell .. ho hum .. i would do things like arrange to met him and not turn up .. i did this 4 times untill he finaly caught on i was messing with him ...again ..ho hum ....I raged , projected , gaslighted, and dangled that carrot untill he finaly got so mad he went nc .. for a while and then it all started again ... he has gone quite for now because he managed to hover in the OW and i can honestly say the silence is bliss . We must never blame our self for our behaviour when faced with a narc they are not human . xx
May 16 - 11AM (Reply to #10)
heritage
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terri

The amount of time I tried to help our relationship and I alwaysnoticed there was no effort on his part. It was exhausting and took a toll on me. I didn't know that he had contempt for me trying to do this. I always told him his actions did not line up with his words. He promised to marry me, help me financially, give me this grand life, blah blah blah but yet when it came to delivery he was no where in sight. The bastard stopped taking me to parties. He picked and chose what he wanted to take me to. He took me to wakes and family things but not to his office or friends parties. Of course I confronted him and his response "Fine I won't take you to anything at all." And he didn't. Now there's a solution ah!
May 16 - 7AM
Kiwi2005
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Must be a Control thing

My narc has always ran after me and who doesn't like attention? However, no attention is better than attention from a mentally unstable person ;) I agree Scoop it is abuse, but at the same time I feel it's a "control" thing... because more than likely "we" were the ones that initiated ignoring a call/text, then after us ignoring them they decided they needed to "teach him/her a lesson" doesn't make sense but neither do these types of people.
May 16 - 6AM
neverlookback
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Good INFo

It also can help US see what NC does to THEM, its the SILENT TREATMENT, THEY DONT EXIST, they never really existed to begin with.
May 16 - 5AM
candy
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SILENCE KILLS ME !

i havent heard from my narc since 1st week in march,we had an argument ,and he told me to fuck off by text, he has done this many times, .... i tried in the begining to contact him but hes been silent since,i have been NC for weeks now, ..... i feel like hes fell of the face of the earth,and it is the most painful thing i have ever gone through in my life,hes moved on and doesnt even think of me,im truly heart broken that after 2 yrs together he has abandoned me,and i know i will never hear from him again ... i feel like he hates me,his silence speaks volumes .... IT'S PURE TORTURE !! CANDY X
May 16 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
Kiwi2005
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He's NOT normal

Candy, I was only with my Narc for 2 months and 2 months of trying to get out... so I'm sorry you're going through this! Let me just say since I've been NC I've wondered why or how he could possibly go 3 days without contacting me at all... here's why: I'm a good-looking, independent, successful girl... Any NORMAL guy would come running after me like no other, for that matter NORMAL guys don't typically do the silent treatment. So when you don't hear from him, don't feel as though you've fallen off the face of the earth just realize HES NOT NORMAL so he won't be doing what normal guys do ;) XOXO
May 16 - 6AM (Reply to #3)
neverlookback
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Candy

Do you really want someone to contact you that told you to Fuck Off ? I have read so many articles that have said if your disordered has thrown you to the curb count yourself LUCKY, although we dont feel very lucky do we? We feel worthless and thrown out like a pile of garbage but they say its a blessing in disguise if they leave us. It truly IS, if we were totally healed I KNOW we could see that this person that did this to us is a cruel and ROTTEN ROTTEN person. I am looking forward to the day I can think of him and say, OH MY GOD, was HE a fricking FREAK, I am looking forward to the day I can know that every single memory I had of him was pathological, he was sick and a fraud and a fake. I think in order to do that though our Hearts must first heal from the simple fact of loving someone that does not have the capacity to love another human back, not only is it deep betrayal to us its something very difficult to even comprehend that there are some people that simply cant feel or love their fellow human beings as we have always know all our lives. They are good at telling other to fuck off, in other words, I dont want to deal with you or the TRUTH I'd rather just run away and go find someone else that will buy into all my lies and my act, you got too wise and smart so its time to run away. They do this with every single confrontation they have in their relationships, they either manipulate like hell or they tell us to go to hell, what kind of partner is that. So when you think of him leaving you the curb, think of him also on to the next or current who is buying into his act and pathology and sickness, it was NOTHING you did, you only saw the truth and light - that is how we are supposed to live we are not supposed to live our lives in a LIE with someone, everyone they are with lives in a lie with them, some just dont know it until its too late. x0x0
May 16 - 6AM (Reply to #2)
Scoop
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Oh Candy and V please know

Oh Candy and V please know that you are dealing with an abnormal person , the narc is not one of us , keep reading , keep posting , its very early days in recovory and we all know youre pain and we are here for you guys . The silent treatment is torture and its ment to be it cripples you . Where you have to take youre power from is NC .. Mostly the narc will resurface when he thinks he has punished you enough and that is NC is the pay back .I pray that he leaves it long enough for you to really get a good few months of healing under youre belt as in a few months things will look diffrent , it takes that time for the brainwashing to wear off and for reality to come back and once it dose you will find the anger stage is just what you need to keep firm NC . God dose provide it just dosent seem that way at the moment . Keep strong .. sending out love and hugs Scoop x