Sexual dysfunction, is this normal for narcs?

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#1 May 30 - 11PM
Littleone
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Sexual dysfunction, is this normal for narcs?

Mine had premature ejaculation, a low sex drive and became increasingly selfish, pushy and degrading when it came to sex. If I said no, I would get badgered until i became really angry or would just give in. He couldn't understand me not wanting to have sex with him at a particular time, usually because my baby was sitting on the floor and I didn't think it was appropriate to have sex in front of him.
Towards the end of our relationship I was hit, degraded and treated like a prostitute during sex. Disgusting!
I know this isn't normal, but is it normal for a narc?

Jun 1 - 7PM
helldweller
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gay--warning very graphic

My poor narc wanted so badly to be f*cked in the rear. But he just couldn't do it. He wouldn't allow anything in there but a tongue and, at the end, that is ALL he wanted: for tongue in the ass for a long time and for me to stroke him from behind. Make sure you are picturing this: me on my knees behind him and so he can't see me and he told me to not talk or make sounds, so pretending it wasn't me was very important. And not pretending he was having sex with another woman--because he didn't want to have any version of heterosexual sex. He seemed to love it at first and loved breasts, etc, but he didn't even pretend at the end of the "relationship." I saw him this morning at the coffee shop outside, with his adoptive child, smoking with his legs crossed at the knee and his jacket sleeves pushed up to the elbows and thought, Oh my god. He is as gay as a three dollar bill. If only they would come to terms with it--whatever "it" is.
Jun 1 - 8PM (Reply to #25)
cowgirl1
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OMG mine did the same thing.

OMG mine did the same thing. Our sex life started out great...but he kept asking me to lick him from behind, and asked for me to use toys on him that way. At first he seemed over the top hetero, but after all is over...I am really wondering if part of his self hate and promiscuity are related to deep rooted homosexual urges. Sad thing was, i was willing to do anything to keep him sexually happy...lol lets see if he can snag another fool.
Jun 1 - 7PM (Reply to #24)
heritage
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heldweller

All he talked ablut was anal. Mine was perfectly groomed, shirted tucked perfectly in and when he called cetain male friends his voice changed. So weird. He never talked ablut intercourse. Anal only but I told him I wasn't interested. One question? Can anal sex be an "accident/" I'm talking the N being fully erect, woman lying on her stomach and he spits on her back, rubbing his penis in it, then he puts it into her rectum and pulls out and says it was an accident. Plkease advise. Thanks.
Jun 1 - 2PM
Deidre40
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lol reading through all these

lol reading through all these stories of ours...gosh, I wonder if they were all gay. Deep down...they were gay. lol I should send mine an anonymous email...asking the following: are you gay? and that's it. :P Kiiiiinda makes ya wonder, no? They hate women. They are obsessed with anal. I am seeing a pattern here. Not that gay men hate women, not saying that. But, never know.
Jun 1 - 8PM (Reply to #22)
cowgirl1
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They are so obsessed with

They are so obsessed with anal! mine loved to try and give it to me and asked me to use things on him, pressure non stop wow had convincced myself it was ok because I loved him. NO he had serious sexual issues and I am starting to really be happy to be free of him. Thanks all :)
Jun 1 - 7PM (Reply to #21)
Susan32
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"If you were gay, it would be OK"

My former Narc boss was OPENLY gay. He didn't parade around fake girlfriends/wives. He had an LDR older boyfriend, who went with him to China. He was honest about being gay. I think he preyed on males. His older boyfriend was a sugar daddy. The ex-Psych prof was rabidly homophobic. He hated women... but he was generally misanthropic. He had contempt for humanity... and it was his ex-BOYFRIEND who warned me against him, since the ex-P mistreated&abused him too. Using an old-time Bible translation, the ex-P was an "abuser of himself with men." He was abusive to men. Not just women. The ex-P would ogle men instead of women when he was with me. He walked in a stiff, awkward way that prompted crude jokes about him on the receiving end of anal. He walked like he had a stick up his butt. Once, he raged to me, "I'm NOT GAY!!! I'm NORMAL!!!" He didn't convince anyone when he flaunted his very masculine live-in girlfriend. I'm tomboyish... but she outdid me. She even had a crew cut... like him. The ex-P would rage at me&call me a slut whenever I wore a dress or a skirt. His novel theory for "Shakespeare in Love" was that the Bard preferred his mistress when she was dressed as a man. Of course, when he did the Sonnets class... he apparently like harping about the Sonnets dedicated to the handsome young man (MOST of the Sonnets are dedicated to him instead of the Dark Lady) "War and Peace",his favorite book, is more homoerotic than the Castro in June. In one scene, Napoleon's male assistants massage him (why does this sound like something for GLEE?) In another, a female member of the Godsfolk, Ivanushka, is masculine in her manner, so much so that Andrei has to clarify. In another famous scene, the Cossacks have Natasha dressed up as a male hussar, Nicholas dressed as an old woman, and Sonya dressed up as a mustached man. The ex-P loved this scene in particular. The ex-P struck me as averse to sex in general. He once said he was prejudiced against homosexuals&heterosexuals (this is how Southern author Walker Percy described the ex-P's favorite literary character, Ignatius Reilly, in "Confederacy of Dunces") He struck me as asexual... and he said he preferred masturbation. He was the ONLY prof who inspired some epically raunchy masturbation jokes.
Jun 1 - 7PM (Reply to #20)
Monica
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Oh, I believe mine was gay!!

I outright asked him....after I left him when I saw the D&D starting...if he was gay. I had suspected it long before we were a "couple" and he loved to be dominated and boinked in the arse. He was incapable of normal sex and intimacy. It was When I worked with him, he would often try to "hug" one of his coworkers who would just cringe away in disgust. I told exNarc that, if he WERE gay, I would definitely be his bff! He denied it. Can't easily run for public office and be "out."
Jun 1 - 2PM
LostandFound
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Yup - it was "no go" in the bedroom

My exN and I didn't have penetrative sex for 12 months of the 18 we were together and only a few times before that. He was a prescription drug user and he blamed the combination of pills and his stress at work for the reason he couldn't perform. He kept telling me that I would end up cheating on him because he couldn't service me properly. It wasn't the dysfunction that bothered me as much as anything we did in the bedroom was only when he wanted it and never was there any foreplay. Ugh.
Jun 1 - 9AM
Deidre40
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He had an obsession with

He had an obsession with anal. Did not happen. We had a long distance relationship, and only had sex a handful of times. To my regret. Very vanilla. He was attentive. But, I got the sense, after many conversations...that it would have turned to him controlling. He would tell me about the women he dated, where he would take them to a point and stop. All day, sometimes til they were insane with lust. I found it curious, and exciting. I didn't find it twisted. But, now, knowing what I know about him? Yes, it's twisted. It is fun to playfully tease. Builds desire. But, to ''torture'' someone, as he put it...all day. That's just strange. He told me what he wanted to do...to me eventually, 'when' we had more time together. He would say, ''Dee...I EXPECT for you to see me everyday after work...or whenever...and to have sex every single day.'' You think that's flattering at the time, but you realize. It's all about him. lol Another way to ''see'' if you'll jump through yet another hoop. His 4th wife 4th wife had him pegged, but she was dubbed as 'crazy.' He said she belitted him. Made HIM feel like wanting sex was wrong. Made HIM feel small in the bedroom, and he was always rejected by her. It's curious to me...their obsessions with anal. The more I said no...the more he wanted to. Maybe that was it. I remember when I liked something, he did it less. My stomach turns thinking about it all.
Jun 1 - 7AM
passionatebutterfly
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yup.......I'll just keep it

yup.......I'll just keep it at that
May 31 - 6PM
hopeful43
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yes-sexual disfunction was the main issue i had with him

I will say yes to your question because i have lived it. The first weird thing was he made me watch him urniate outside in public. The next was he started masturbating in front of me and just had me lay there naked. Then it escalted with asking for a third person, anal and would i use a vibrator? The few times we actually had real intercourse he made me talk the entire time about my old experiences and ask me what my friends do to their boyfriends-this really freaked me out. I feel so ashamed because i was not sexually active for many years when i met this man. Then if i asked for sex he would say i had issues and that was all i wanted out of him and he would call me gay? what is that about- he threw the word 'gay' around all the time.
Jun 1 - 7AM (Reply to #14)
onwithmylife
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hopeful

Projection, he may have gay issues unresloved within himself, my exnarc hated gays with such a passion, made me wonder???
Jun 1 - 8AM (Reply to #15)
Littleone
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Ditto!!

Ditto!!
May 31 - 1PM
cowgirl1
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OH yes, mine was a porn

OH yes, mine was a porn addict...I passed it off the first year. Then the non stop pressure for threesomes, group sex and all things that devalued me and made me cry began. He and I had sex daily, but towards the end (and prob. at the begining too, and I was too blind) he was cold and just in it for sex. He rarely ever ejaculated during sex, he would have to do the deed himself...not to be arrogant but I am very attractive, it was weird! I chauled that up to his steroid use, but now I know it is because HE likes his own hand better than sex because he is a Narc Sociopath. Good to be out of it, but painful to remeber.
May 31 - 8AM
Susan32
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Undoing Eros

I highly recommend this article by Jennifer Wilson from Princeton University, it's about "War and Peace"--but for me, it helped explain the almost asexuality of the ex-Psych prof. Wilson's thesis is that Tolstoy was trying to abolish eros by establishing androgyny... holding up Pierre&Natasha as the Ideal Androgynous Couple. There's a quote in "War and Peace" in which the women say of Pierre "he is very amiable. He has no sex." Wilson points out that Tolstoy omits anything romantic/erotic in Pierre's proposal to Natasha... and that he omits anything that suggests a sexual life between Pierre&Natasha once they're married (despite the fact that Natasha has just borne a son by the end of the first epilogue) Sex&eros are treated with disgust. Definitely the Madonna/whore complex. The ex-P saw himself as androgynous. He identified with Pierre, saying he was anti-social&ostracizing himself from society (when Natasha marries him, she does the same, even becoming fat&rude like him) Once, he said "I am speaking to you like an old mother." Because that's how Tolstoy describes Platon, who enlightens Pierre. The ex-P was weirdly sexless. He'd call me a slut if I wore a dress or a skirt. When I was casually dating, he'd be telling his classes that I had a "Flavor of the Month" Boyfriend (projection) He was rabidly homophobic...he never did come out as gay or bi because that would require honesty&respect, wouldn't it? Yet he found homosexuality an immensely fascinating subject. For all his claims that homosexuals were evil, it was an openly gay prof (who was also his ex-boyfriend) who warned me about him. This gay prof saved me from getting sexually/romantically involved with the ex-P. The ex-P D&D'd other men, not just women. I saw him treat his male colleagues&male students badly. Ns/Ps are misogynistic--but that doesn't exempt males from being victims. The ex-P admitted to a masturbation habit. He'd say that in "War and Peace", all the good women are depicted as plain, but all the men are portrayed as handsome. It's more like he pitted me against men rather than other women. (Competing with other women would've been a level playing field, IMHO) His girlfriend was incredibly masculine. She dressed like him, had a crew cut like him. Her tank top at the graduation picnic was as big a deal as Kate Middleton's wedding dress.
May 31 - 7AM
BadaBing
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We had a normal sexual

We had a normal sexual relationship and appetite, however, I would not give in to his long time fantasy to have anal sex He tried to show me a porn of how much the girl enjoyed it. Grooossss. Ok let me just say that what I saw in the porn was a man bent woman over had his way with her while putting his foot on her face. HELL NO! I told him it bothered me ALOT he watched this, and he said he hadn't noticed that part until I pointed it out. I left the room. I explained later on that I didn't need porn to excite me, and I didn't need it at all in our relationship. He agreed we didn't need it. Maybe he was lying again ?
May 31 - 6PM (Reply to #10)
Lobo555
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You too???

Mine showed me a porn movie, too, with some chick getting anal to convince me to do it! He said, like he was trying to talk a child into eating her spinach, "See how much she likes it? Don't you think you want to try it, too?" I said, "Don't you feel a bit *homo* for wanting to try it?" That still didn't get him to stop trying to convince me! :) In the end (no pun intended!) I didn't give in. Not my thing. He should have respected that the *first* time I refused.
May 30 - 11PM
ifinallygotit
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not my experience

My ex N had no sexual dysfunction at all. All the problems were about control, power, image, avoiding commitment, responsiblilty, "growing up". Sex was an area where he could shine and have fun and meet his needs...I actually thought he loved me - until the next day of emotional coldness (withdrew EVERY morning from me for 10 years if we had a beautiful night together)
May 30 - 11PM
Steph
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"Towards the end of our

"Towards the end of our relationship I was hit, degraded and treated like a prostitute during sex. Disgusting! I know this isn't normal, but is it normal for a narc?" A Narc could defintately be responsible for this type of thing but whether he is a narc or some other personality disorder or mental disorder....This is NOT normal or acceptable behaviour.....doesn't matter where it stems from. get away from this abuser.
May 30 - 11PM (Reply to #7)
Littleone
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I have most definately gotten

I have most definately gotten away :), I have run for the hills with my infant son. My ex has a HUGE amount of sociopathic traits I am afraid. He enjoyed hurting me and my son ( on some level). A sociopathic narcissist is a very dangerous combo! Glad we are out :)
May 30 - 11PM
Goldie
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Yes

They appear to mostly all have some form of sexual deviant behavior. Mine was very sweet for the first year. Aside from the occasional off color comment and lack of interest in female body parts he was sweet. Nothing rough or unusual, actually downright boring. He did little to light my fire but he was gentle and sweet otherwise. The second year is when his true colors came out. I guess he was afraid to let on to his true nature. The second year began with talking about OW, telling me he checks them out all the time, porno, a freakish obsession with his male organ talked about it constantly, touched it all the time. Doing weird thing to himself in front of me. Asking me to do things to him, blah blah blah, I refused to engage in this aside from one night from hell and I was already on my way out so I did not care. That was the end, his sexual deviant behavior and the drugs were the deal breaker for me. I had had enough due to the narc rage I put up with the first year, funny he transferred his narc rage over to sexual obsession. I guess they have to have something going on to feel alive because they are dead inside otherwise. I am sorry for how he treated you, I have no doubt in my mind that is where he was headed with me if I had of stayed in it any longer. This was just the previews of coming attractions. They like to preen you for the real good stuff. Sick bastards. God bless, Goldie
May 31 - 7AM (Reply to #3)
Four Aces
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Yes.

I think a HUGE red flag with any man is how they treat you in bed. Sex is a reflection of control issues. My sex life with my narc was very nice the first few years and then I started noticing that I felt more like a "masturbation" device. Right before we broke up he told me he was no longer interested in sex. He was 56 years old. My theory is that sex with a narc is always a little on the weird side. Unless you have had a lot of sexual partners which I had not, you may not notice for a while. Obviously, anything too weird and malicious is a RUN do not walk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think as narcs get older they get worse as with any abuse. It's all about control and just their needs. My narc is with his new woman and I dont think they ever have had sex. Not that I know for sure, but after living with this man almost 17 years I feel that I know him pretty well. This switch from the somatic narc to the cerebral narc is an obvious sign of his NPD. Sam Vaknin discusses in this book "Malignant Self Love." Sexual weirdness is DEFINITELY a part of this personality disorder.
May 31 - 7AM (Reply to #5)
Littleone
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Yes it was nice at the

Yes it was nice at the beginning too. Although now I can see clearly he did use it as a means for controlling. Ie: withholding it, only would have it if he initiated it and NEVER the other way round. He made me feel dirty for having a healthy sex drive and also had a bit of a thing for anal. Because of the PE, he seemed very self conscious about whether I enjoyed it or not and would ask me afterwards everytime, although he never made any steps to make sure I did! 3 weeks before we broke up I told him I was a bit fed up about being asked all the time because it ruined the mood and made me feel like I had to lie. We never slept together again and he broke up with me ! Seems I bruised his ego somewhat....
May 31 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
BadaBing
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FourAces

I am going to look up the book. Thanks!
May 31 - 4AM (Reply to #2)
Puzzle
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Mine is a total sex addict

Mine is a total sex addict and porn addict. I think it always annoyed him because I had the power in the bedroom. Towards the end of our relationship he talked about wanting to do degrading stuff to me because he could feel me developing a sense of self and distancing myself from him. Sex was the only thing mine was good at, any other form of verbal communication about how he felt was lost to him. I never knew what went on in that sick mind. He was always so good at hiding his thoughts.....that's assuming he actually had any LOL I have read about narcissist in a book called "why is it always about you" and the author deems most narc's sexually disfunctional. I think Lisa has written about two types, or maybe I read that elsewhere. The one who uses sex and looks and charm as power and others who use their position and intellegence. They are complex freaks that is for sure. It is so hard for us to put a normal person in a box and label them...trying to define a dysfunctional and mentally ill being is like trying to sift concrete.