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#1 Feb 8 - 1PM
Anonymus
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Really sad

Tryied to help out a friend who's couple I think may have NPD, or very strong traits.
When I first started learning I sort of obsessed about NPD and researched all I could. I told her about my "findings" but when I started seeing she needed help I droped the subject and focused on her. Didn't want to project anything that did not belong to her. I was kind of was afraid that the obsession started to reach people that didn't even have NPD, and didn't want to cause any damage.

Time passed, she seemed to be doing well, and this saturday got a phone call, she sounded really down. I wont tell you the nature of his behaviour, but basically he has been an ass and she was afraid he would carry on doing that.

This monday I sort of told her that she needed to focus on loving herself more than him. She said she was fine, confident and everything. She didn't like what I told her. She told me she needed him in her life. So today, I sent her some information on psychopaths and she got really angry. That it was her choice, that I talked about NPD all the time (not true I havent honestly said anything to her about that in little over a month, and haven't spoken that much either), that she was very upset I saw him as a psychopath. I tried to explain that it's not that he's a psycho, but that all psychos are N's but not vice versa. Couldn't finish. She logged off.

I'm kind of worried I did something wrong; is it me?? I just wish someone had told me the things I told her. Told me "investigate!! you're a scientist, check out just in case". Just don't want her to be through what I've been thorugh. Did I cross some sort of line?? I'm not very good with people, afraid I performed major screwup with friend.

Hugs to all,

C

Feb 9 - 7AM
Used
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one day she will relize you

one day she will relize you were being A FRIEND....but it wont be anytime soon , until she pulls away from him or is dropped by him... people just dont want to hear it when they are with them....usually the same people who when it ends badly, say... WHY DIDNT YOU WISE ME UP...A NO WIN SITUATION..
Feb 9 - 7AM
Hunter
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She's asks for you help then

She's asks for you help then ..does that .. Nice.. This is what happens on here when a dispute happens.. People don't want to hear the truth.. Especially when you bring up PSYCHOPATH... I bring it up when asked and I get " psychopath"" "he's not a psychopath" They don't understand and don't want to.. When she wants help shell get.. This is a perfect example as to why we must never tell the OW.. They won't believe it.. Next time time this women brings up the topic tell her you're not intersect in listening to her whine... When she decides to take action you'll listen.. You were just trying to help.. Hunter
Feb 9 - 8AM (Reply to #6)
Anonymus
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Thanks Hunter

She's not a bad person at all, she's really sweet and a good friend. I spoke to her after I emailed her telling her "I get it and I'm not mad, but it makes me sad that you think I'm doing this to hurt you when it's not like that". We both apologized and agreed to change subject. I have to be there I guess. Hugs and thanks for the feedback! C PD: If I were in the US I would undoubtedly invite you to go out and have a few drinks and laughs. XD
Feb 8 - 2PM
kartaga
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i understand

i did the same thing. i crossed the line even. couldnt stop myself. i lost a friend, got blamed for being cruel and achieved nothing. it is sad.
Feb 8 - 2PM
shazza060969
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what i would do....

I would apologise and say that you were talking about you and your life and not hers and his.... it depends how much you value your friendship, then when the time comes be there. You have sown the seeds of doubt, now allow her to let them grow, if they do just be there. you will be the expert by then!
Feb 8 - 2PM
shazza060969
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what i would do....

I would apologise and say that you were talking about you and your life and not hers and his.... it depends how much you value your friendship, then when the time comes be there. You have sown the seeds of doubt, now allow her to let them grow, if they do just be there. you will be the expert by then!
Feb 8 - 2PM
shazza060969
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the best intentions started the greatest wars!

Your intentions were honourable, never doubt that! But if someone is not 'ready' to hear they won't! They will feed it back and you will be blamed. I have been in the exact same situation with 2 of my best friend who i met 7yrs ago through the ex narc. Their husbands are best friends with him for a reason, they feed each other! My Best friends have listened and listened to me, been there at the drop of a hat in my worst times and I have told them what I have learned but I know I must not project this, losing their friendship would be MUCH MUCH worse than losing him. I know they tell their husbands nothing as they are in the same position I was. I looked at them and their confusion, chaos and upset and that is ultimatley ( along with this forum) that made me go NC - I don't want to be them in 10 yrs time!! Tell, then Listen and Support but do not project as I say the greatest intentions started the greatest wars. This is not your battle - take care of you, first and foremost, the advice that I have glemmed for every kind hearted soul here xx Dont beat yourself help, dust yourself down and know when someone asks you, it is then the time to advise xx lots and lots of love xxx