The rage was out of control, now he says he will no longer pay the bills and he never wants to see me again.

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#1 Sep 22 - 8AM

jaycee

The rage was out of control, now he says he will no longer pay the bills and he never wants to see me again.

oh please tell me why I can't shut my mouth and do the right thing. This morning he came by to get his mail, and had a big smile on his face, I couldnt help it but i tweeked, as i had just been online and she posted pictures of the two of them on fb. I was so sick inside and crazy, all I tried to say is please ask her to take them down, please dont let her add more salt to my wounds. He said Im fn crazy and sick and need help, i swore up and down he had no idea, its not his fb he has no control over it, and i was trying to beg him not to let me feel more hurt, and just do it for me and the kids as we are ashamed as it is. he broke everything in the house, told me i was sick bitch and needed help and he cant help me, screamed in my face, what did you think i was coming home, i said no, never asked you too, just dont want you to humiliate me anymore, he went crazy kept saying im nuts, and hes done, he will never pay another bill again, and hes sorry his daughter will suffer because of me, if i wasnt such a nosey bitch and surfing the net, i wouldnt have seen it. he said he never wants to see me again and dont ever call him, dont ever text him, as he will never call me or text me for as long as he lives, he told me to get a boyfriend and get a life and let him live his life, and now i can get a job and pay all the bills, he said (im sure her words) hes the only guy in the world stupid enough to pay all the bills in a place he doesnt even live, and hes done. hes moved on and i need to move on..........he told me he will not tell her to take the picture down, its her fb and she can do anything she wants, its none of my business, oh how sick i am, i should have played it differently but i tweeked, i was so hurt and so crazy, hes right im crazy and i need to accept he has moved on and too bad for me, he rather liked coming here and hanging out and being best friends, he said you blew that,now find a new best friend and leave me the fuck alone. once again, i did the wrong thing and now my daughter and i will suffer and probably be homeless. i wish i just shut my mouth, why did i do this why, why didnt i wait and call him at work and act so surprized and sad and play him the way i know how, i was just so freaked out as he had told me in the beginning he would never allow her to have him on fb its for loosers, but guess what now hes on it. smiling and as happy as ever. and now, my daughter and i wont have anywhere to live, cause i was so stupid, why did i do this why

#2 Sep 23 - 2AM

hooklineandsinker

Deep breath.... You need to

Deep breath.... You need to disentangle from him IMMEDIATELY. You cannot survive in such emotional chaos. I got exhausted just reading about it, so god knows what you feel like! And forget about Facebook. Don't even bother looking at it. Seriously. I thought I'd miss it terribly but I don't even bother with it any more. I presume you guys were/are married? Whether he ever pays another bill or not is a matter for a judge, in that case.

#3 Sep 23 - 3AM (Reply to #39)

gettinbetter

Funsize and Jaycee

I agree with funsize. FB is what brought mine back into my life after 15 years. I would find myself looking at his FB obsessively frightened of what I might see. Finally he deleted his FB account and initially it stunned me. It hurt that I could not even see a picture of him but now a month later I see that it was the best think to happen what you dont know cant hurt you. These guys cant stay on FB long its too risky for them. Mine made up some ridiculous story on why he had to cancel is fb account. He said he had to close everything public due to some safety and security issues. HMMMM Really? because on went on match.com tonite and guess who I found? Yep you got it. The description of the woman he's lookin for an exact description of me. So what Im tellin you Jaycee is that 15 years ago mine left me and took up with someone with both worked with. She was not attractive. She was very average. I wanted to die. There were days I didnt think I could go to work and I eventually quit over it. He dumped her just like he has dumped everyone. This guy is 43 and super hot yet he has never been married and has no children. He made big promises to me telling me he had always loved me and that he wanted it to work with us (another one of his famous lines). It was all lies. He took 4 years of my life in my precious twenties and now another year in my forties. So Jaycee what Im telling you is they WILL split up its inevitable. Its what they do. Im living proof that they DO NOT change. I know its hard for you. Its hard for me. When I saw the match.com account, I couldn't breath. Its gut wrenching. I have learned that I have to stop looking him up its only causing me more pain. What you dont know doesnt hurt you. I too am having physical symptoms from the hurt and pain. This time around the mental torture has been much worse as he lives 300 miles from me. My mind races with thoughts of what hes doing and who he is with. I have decided I just have to go on with my life. I have a child who has not been getting the attention she deserves from her mother as my mind is always on him. You need to decide with me that you are not going to let him steal your kids mother from them becuase that is what he is doing. Jaycee get of FB until you are in a better place mentally. You can do it! Dig deep if not for yourself for your kids!

#4 Sep 23 - 4AM (Reply to #40)

jaycee

funsize and jaycee

sick of it, thank you for your words of encouragement, if you dont know, i have been married to him for twenty four years, i have put up with his lies, manipulations, cheating, as he is a serial cheater, and his d&d of me and his kids more than once. mine, cannot be alone, he always has to have a homebase, and hes making his with her right now. I dont know if he will dump her, i can only pray he will soon. its killing me, hes making a pretend life with her. as for fb, its her account and shes never put pics of him and her up as of yesterday. he lies, i know he knew, he had no idea i would know, so i guess, as miserable as he says he is with her, he is trying to pacify her by letting her put the pics up so she thinks they are the perfect couple now and hes fine with the world seeing them, now he had to find a way to have her remove it, with the risk of fighting with her again. but obviously, he cant loose my supply so he is going to all lengths on both ends. i dont get it, hes been gone for about six months, i threw him out, and he just got cozy living with her, he does cheat on her continuously, with the two others i definately know of, and continues to come here telling me he doesnt love her, he cant wait to get his own place, he loves me and misses me, yet, hes not ready to give her up, obviously, or hed been gone already, i dont believe him, not a word, i dont believe all they do is fight, i saw the pic, they looked pretty happy to me, his fake happy, because hes always deep down miserable, because hes always looking for the next source of supply and cant handle the person he is. he has to know somewhere somehow he is a monster. to discard a wife is one thing, to discard your children is another. he is toxic, but this whore, is just as toxic, she tortured me for over two years and i finally threw him out, now she gloats all over town and now on facebook. i pray you are right and he does dump her, i just hope it doesnt take too long. i hope he doesnt stay with her for years, that would kill me, i honestly would be thrilled if he moved onto the next and discarded her, as she deserves it, the next one, one who would have nothing to do with the demise of my marriage, i would feel sorry for. this one, i pray, gets hers. thank you for what you said, it gives me hope he will dump her and move on, yet, hes in his forties now and getting older, so maybe he might just settle down with her and stay with her for all she offers him, pays for everything, buys him everything, and now shes into his health, she makes him do cardio everyday, so the bloat from the steroids, as hes a steriod freak, doesnt look so obvious. as for him, he lies so bad, texts me and tells me he loves me more than anyone in the world, and could never love her, and could never replace me, guess what he already has replaced me, and tell this whore he loves her everyday.........oh how i pray you are right and he dumps her ass and moves onto the next........

Jaycee

#5 Sep 22 - 5PM

jaycee

thanks for the replies, if you only knew how sad i am right now

i cant believe all that went on today, and all i was blamed for, he even said, had you said nicely to me, did you know your pic was on facebook, i would have taken care of it immediately, but since you attacked me, etc....your crazy, put me through hell, blamed me for everything, told me he never wanted to see me again, was never going to pay another bill again, etc......for hours this went on from here to phone calls, then he calls and then starts again, and then suddenly shows up saying ill do this one last favor for you, ill make sure she takes it down now, but dont ever ask me another favor again, dont try to dictate my life, but i will do this one thing for you.....in other words, hes doing for himself, but wants credit from me, pretending hes doing it for me. he has never done anything for anyone but himself, so there must be a reason he wants it down, oh thats right, if i saw it, his other women might see it. who knows, and know my punishment, as i have said is, he will no longer text me early morn to say morn mama i miss you i love you, etc...oh boy i feel like a child who is being scolded by my parents, theyre taking the car away for the weekend, but in all honesty, im so sad right now, cant catch a breath the tears are just flowing, from saddness, abuse, d&d, and from the whole situation. i wish when he treats me this way, i could hate him, despise him, wish his death, instead it breaks my heart even more. oh the things he said. im exhausted but cant sleep, sad but worried im never going to get better.

Jaycee

#6 Sep 22 - 4PM

jaycee

oh by the way my punishment in his eyes is

oh by the way my punishment in his eyes is he is no longer going to text me at three am im going to learn a lesson he said, you wont hear me texting you anymore in the morning, i wont be telling you i love you and i wont be saying good morning mama anymore, now you'll learn your lesson, next time you wont attack me when i walk in the door, but i will pay all the bills, so be lucky at that. oooooooowwwwwwwww, im being punished, i dont think so, him not texting is going to eat him alive, because its his early morn catch the supply before his whore wakes up. too difficult anyway he says, i have to hide my phone downstairs and sneak those texts everymorning, oooooooooooowwwwwwww dont do me any favors wouldnt want you to feel your supply go up.........lol

Jaycee

#7 Sep 22 - 1PM

Briseis

This is something many have

This is something many have already said I'm sure . . . find a way to not be dependent on him for ANYTHING. Nothing. Not a freaking dime. It's the only way, hon. And millions of women do it every day. Not easily. But it is possible. This is America, or even if you are in the UK or Oz, social services are better than anywhere else in the world. Bite the bullet and apply for state aid and EBT card for food, state medical for insurance. Be willing to live below your accustomed level for a while while you get on your feet. I assume you already know this (((hugs))) and I apologize if you are tired of hearing this. But it's the ONLY way to not live this misery day in and day out. Is "pretending" to be all happy and OK -- read: DENIAL -- a better choice for you? I think you are being too hard on yourself. I think you deserve to have good, respectful relationships, and to not HAVE to "pretend" in order to keep a roof over your head.

#8 Sep 22 - 12PM

jaycee

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first of all, i leave the door unlocked because my daughter can never find her key, she has one, but always bangs on the door and i didnt want to have to go downstairs if i were to fall asleep, he doesnt not have a key, i changed the locks, i guess he would have banged on the door or rang the bell had the door been locked. I changed the locks when i threw him out, but regardless, he seems to come and go as he pleases, but only when i know he is coming here, either for mail, drop off money, pick up daughter or do work around the pool and yard. this is the first time since i threw him out, he has ever come here unannounced, i mean come into the house unannounced without texting or calling. yes, i know its time for me to get rid of him once and for all, he has really drained me today, so much so, im physically ill from it all. and as much of a narc as he is, he's funny about others seeing him, only because hes sleeping with other people, not because he doesnt like the attention, he doesnt want to explain himself to any of the others, that is only reason he doesnt want to be on fb. must be hard juggling different women because they have no idea the truth about him, he probably tells the others he lives alone with his daughter and thats why he cant see them all the time. who knows what stories he tells, i know one thing, he cant have himself out there, because he will have to explain himself and that takes effort. too bad he has to lie every second of everyday, and then blame me for what happens.

Jaycee

#9 Sep 22 - 12PM (Reply to #34)

Used

jaycee

you sound angry, you sound more focused than i have ever heard you, you are exhausted but you are sounding in away so together. yes he has to blame you, b/c the minute he blames himself is the minute he will also have to admit to himself..... what a lowlife scumbag he is.

#10 Sep 22 - 10AM

jaycee

I guess he has no idea what never means

i went upstairs to lay in bed, since i felt i was physically ill from the stress of today. I left the backdoor unlocked, as i always do when i know my daughter will be home within hours, and i hear her come in, i thought, and it was him, he came here to say he was sorry and that the picture would be taken down immediately, he said he had no idea, and there will never be a picture of him up there again, he said to be honest, yeah right, im embarrassed to be anywhere on fb, its her corny acct, i dont have one, which he doesnt, we always said neither of us would, we feel to old to air our dirty laundry, just our opinion, he said he didnt mean anything he said this morning he was just angry because he feels frustrated, yeah right, guess its hell there, cause like i always say, hell there, he wants here, but so strange he left work, he probably had plans to anyway, but at least he is having that pic removed, thank God, I couldnt take her adding salt to my wounds anymore. he made a comment, that i have no idea, he thinks she trying desperately to hold onto something she knows isnt there and it makes her feel better to make other people think they are so happy. cant believe a word he says, but do believe the pic will be gone asap, only because he doesnt want it there, not for me, trust me on that, he cringes at the thought of others knowing his business, he always cringed at people putting pics on fb.............

Jaycee

#11 Sep 22 - 1PM (Reply to #19)

Scoop

Jaycee

.. hover alert hover alert ! A narc doesnt say sorry unless he needs you for supply and if he has an ow then he no longer needs you for supply but what did he say ?"she is clinging onto something that she knows isnt there " ... i would say he is reving up for a hover and you need to be very careful . God these guys are so predictable , this is exsactly what my late narc did on hover number 3 .. or was it 4 .. i forget there has been so bleeding many of them . And if you think youre guy isnt a narc think about what he did the first time he came round , you said you where upset and he pushed you down further , in fact he went into full narc rage . When you are down they push you further down its a classic narc trate . Hovering takes it out of you , please try not to engage . Write down all the terrible things he has done and read them over and over so you are ready for when he needs you for supply ... stay strong , he was reving up last week when he said somthing about missing not being at the pool this summer and now this .. i smell a rat .. a narc rat lol . Im sorry you had to go through this trauma today , it is so draining , i know . Look after your self in the next couple of days , try and go nc for a week or so untill you get youre head straight . Big love to you sweetie , maybe a nice glass of red tonight and some good telly ..xxx

#12 Sep 22 - 2PM (Reply to #20)

jaycee

scoop

scoop pls explain to me what you mean by hes reving up for a hover, i dont get it, please explain. if he has ow why would he need my supply. and i really dont get what you mean......please explain

Jaycee

#13 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #26)

Scoop

He said that the ow was

He said that the ow was posting on fb as she is cinging on to something that wasnt there ... meaning that he is not into the other woman and she knows it , this is a hint to you that all is not well with ow , he is testing the water to stage a hover with you . ... have i got compleatly the wrong end of the stick ? it can happen ... or is this right do you recon ?

#14 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #27)

jaycee

scoop

I must not understand what you mean by staging a hover, im sorry i sound so dumb, i dont fully understand that, im thinking you mean hes setting me up for something, if hes testing the water, why rage at me? if staging a hover means hes looking for my sympathy? oh, God, I sound like a moron, I just dont get that expression at all. and what do you mean do i recon? so sorry, i feel like such a dummy. please help me understand these expressions.......jaycee

Jaycee

#15 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #30)

Scoop

Ohh sweetie sorry you are

Ohh sweetie sorry you are confused .. to hover means to gain supply from you , in this instant i would say his motervation was to keep all his options open ie to come back to you if he needs to . Reving up is my bad spelling , it should read revving up , like what you start to do with an car before you want to go somewhere . A narcs biggest fear is to be abandoned , this means his supply is cut off by another person and this freaks them out , so if they can they can they leave their options open to stage a return , this is why you never get closeure with them . Some times they leave and never contact you again but this is rare . A hover dosent mean they come back and they change in any way , it means they come back and you have a honeymoon period for a little while and you think the real person has come back and you go up on that sureal high again only to be d&d a short time after as the true psycopath creeps out , down you go and each time it is worst than the last .xx

#16 Sep 22 - 4PM (Reply to #31)

jaycee

oh sweetie sorry you are

scoop, thank you for explaining, i know i sound dumb, but i didnt get what you mean. funny thing is he screamed in my face, did you think i was coming back to you, did you, and i said, i never asked you to come back, i just asked you to respect me as your wife and mother of your children, what does that have to do with our conversation. he screamed well im not and i dont owe you any respect and im sick of you dictating my life and telling me what i can do, you need to find a boyfriend and get a life so i can live my life. next sentence was, oh yeah, i wanted my pic on fb, you are so wrong, maybe shes trying to cling onto something she knows isnt there, etc, etc with the lies. so i dont think hes revving, hes always has to have his foot in the door, just in case. but i dont think he has any intention of ever trying to con me into letting him come home, that boat has sailed more so for him than me. not that i want him home, but it would be nice to see him beg, so i can say oh no, that boat sailed long ago, even if it killed me. who knows, all his words are backwards all his words are lies, all his actions prove hes insane and is getting more psychotic by the week. he looks horrible and is absolutely the most miserable ive seen him in a long time (with the exception of coming in with a great big smile, thinking he found refuge this morning) he really has major issues but he projects them onto me and says im the crazy bitch. guess its a narc thing...........

Jaycee

#17 Sep 22 - 4PM (Reply to #32)

Scoop

Go nc .. i have been nc for

Go nc .. i have been nc for almost 7 months now , the trouble is when you are in it you cant see it . Please dont let the narc back in to the house again , if he stops paying for things act as if you dont give a damm , i would wager that he wont . Get a lawyer . Its time dont you think ? He will do this dance for ever if you let him . There is a man out there for you that will love you , not scream in youre face when you show vaunrabilty, a man that will love you and youre children as you deserve , just around the corner i recon . xxx

#18 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #28)

Used

jaycee

scoop means trying to get in your good books, dont you get it, she put that on f/b b/c they are not getting on, he got in a rage with you b/c they are not getting on.... stop apoligising by saying things like i put it to him wrong... i absolutly agrr with ever thing shanyamommy said. stop beign such a doormat, doormats are to be walked on this is what you are letting him do to you and your daughter.... walking all over you.

#19 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #29)

jaycee

used

used thank you for your explanation. why would he want to get into my good books, i see the picture of two happy people both smiling and loving life, i know she put it there to rub salt in my wounds, but if we could ever believe a word he says, which we cant, im confused. he lies, so what if he were just saying, maybe shes trying to cling to something that she knows isnt there. he also told me i have no idea what his life there is like, so lets say hes not lying, and things are a mess and shes clinging, why would he rage at me, he would be more likely to want to rage at her for doing it. like i say, when things there are hell, he wants here, thats not what transpired today, he was so cruel and so mean and so raging psycho at me, not her. i guess what im trying to say is, if things were that bad there, hed be clinging to me, not raging at me. and what does reving a hover mean??? I do have to say, i am glad he came to his senses and made her take it down, that is one thing i am happy about, and yes, maybe women like her are so insecure they need outsiders to see what she wishes was going on there, maybe it is hell and maybe when he first came here with his great big smile saying mama so happy to see you........then i opened my mouth...and the rage began. oh well, i got my way this time, pic removed, but what i also got was a horrible day filled with stress and tears from a strange man resembling my husband, who came into my house filled with glee and turned into a raving monster, so time for me to make my move and move along. lol

Jaycee

#20 Sep 22 - 2PM (Reply to #21)

ShaynasMommy

jaycee

what she means is that he needs MORE AND MORE AND MORE SUPPLY because what's going on at home is not absolutely freaking PERFECT for him and its not going all his way and she won't shut up about things, etc. etc. The thing that you don't seem to be getting is that he needs EVERYONE!!! Because he's so goddamn NEEDY!!!! So to him, you are still on the menu, and you always will be until you grow a freaki'n back bone and go NO EFFING CONTACT once and for all. Get all the outside help you can. Laywers, social services, beg, borrow, and steal (well, maybe not go that far) but anything to get away from this SICK FUCKING FUCK and show your daughter how you are a proud, victorious QUEEN of a woman, that the both of you are so much better than this crap. Jaycee, if anything, do this for your daughter. Its not dramatic to say that her very life oneday may depend on it, for as they say monkey see, monkey do. PLEASE, please snap out of this funk you are in and show her this isn't right! You are still stuck in the same groove of obsessing over the OW. Girl, stop wasting your time on this piece of shit!!!!! Youre in a blind frenzy and I'm sorry to say that the only one at THIS POINT that can save you and lift you up is YOU, with the help of GOD. Together you can work miracles, but you have to be willing to have the courage to take his hand and do the work you need to do to help yourself. I belive your situation has reached critical mass, as all of us did with our narcs, and this is a NOW or NEVER opportunity for you. If you don't show him that he is not entitled to destroying you physically, financially, and mentally RIGHT NOW, then he will always bully you, hurt you, beat you down until there is nothing left of you, Jaycee. Its now or never, Jaycee. Please make the decision to go no contact, whatever it takes.

#21 Sep 22 - 2PM (Reply to #22)

jaycee

jaycee from shaynnasmommy

I kind of get how you explained what scoop said, but scoop said when there is an ow, he no longer needs your supply, well, he has his ow, regardless of how things there are, he still has her supply, and she remarked that hes reving for a hover, and i should be careful, that confuses me. what exactly is reving for a hover mean? i mean in this case? He doesnt not need my supply, he lives with her free and clear, no need to give money, no need to pay for anything, she supplies him with everything he wants and needs, whether or not she is catching onto him, she still wants him there, so why need my supply, if what scoop says is true, he has ow, he no longer needs my supply. that is where i am confused. as for what you said, you are right, and only if i put it in God's hands and tell him to help me, i will be ok. its time to give up and move on, as he was so cruel today, so cruel and mean and hurtful, more than hes ever been, destructive and emotionally and mentally abusive to the core, his rage was undeniable and i know it was my fault i should have spoken to him differently but i was a little raged, and when he says im a sick bitch who needs help it makes me crazy, im not sick, i was so normal and happy go lucky for so long, but his excuse to everyone about me is im crazy he has even told our kids for years, your mother is fn nuts, shes crazy dont listen to her, i cant take when shes crazy and that bothers me, im not crazy, im not, im human with real feelings and emotions and hes taken my life from me, i want it back so bad, my life not the life with him, just my life.

Jaycee

#22 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #24)

Scoop

Jaycee , I recognise what he

Jaycee , I recognise what he says about the ow not being right for him as this is what mine said at hover 3 and three weeks later i was back in his bed only to he d&d about 2 months later . With some narcs its not about money , mine had no intrest in money it was all about how the ow mirrored his fake self and if the ow has started to hold him acounterble for his behaviour then she is toast ie fantisy woman becomeing real in narc land this is prime d&d time .By you complaning about the ow putting photos up on face book says to narc "ohhh thats the kind of supply i need , my wife is jelious and that makes me feel puffed up with supply wow i feel great ! " so he milks it for all its werth ie saying "get another boyfriend , leave me alone " and watches you die inside as he says it , in narc world this is gold dust supply and what does he do ? he goes away , feels great but realised that if he goes too far with you you wont want to know him and may cut of the very thing that made him feel great , so he comes back and says sorry , making sure he drops in the line that all is not well with ow just to keep you bubbling away , there for securing a way to return if he needs it ... If this rings a bell with you then good and if not im really sorry for putting a spanner in the works for you tonight .Either way what ever he want please try and go nc for a couple of weeks , its still early days and the complex nature of NPD takes a while to get youre head around .. stay strong and trust youre gut .. xxx

#23 Sep 22 - 5PM (Reply to #25)

ShaynasMommy

ditto Jaycee

.....to everything scoop here just said, and to add another point,he was pissed because when you asked him to make OW take the pictures down because you were hurting, you were basically asking him to take care of you emotionally when that's really supposed to be your job to take care of him. How dare you ask him to be kind to you after everything he's already "put up with", huh? He is bitter that you threw him out finally, but still thinks you owe him everything even though you had a bloody good reason to do it. Don't have any more conversations with him and expect to get anything decent or sane out of him. He's a freak. Accept that and move on.

#24 Sep 22 - 3PM (Reply to #23)

anonymous

Gonna have to disagree with you

"i know it was my fault i should have spoken to him differently" It was not your fault. And you are wrong - you should not have spoken to him differently. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS KEY POINT: You should NOT have spoken to him AT ALL. That was your mistake. You think if you had been nicer it would have been OK. IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN. It would have been another example of him getting to walk all over you and treat you like crap. You cannot continue to have conversations with this thing.

#25 Sep 22 - 12PM (Reply to #16)

sweetsamm

stop the surfing.....it made me crazy too....

Please stop surfing the net..........it made me crazy!! seriously,i went nuts when i saw stuff on FB,i had to MAKE myself stop.....i mean shutting off the computer..i know exactly how u feel when you see him,it's so hard to stop yourself from showing your rage. YOU are NOT a crazy bitch,you got sucked into a crazy situation with a completely horrible person....he knows he still has power over you with the money,just like my ex...have you thought about st.johns wart..it really calmed me down. I get how you feel they are rubbing salt in your wound,but don't let them! Seriously,take your life back....i'm so serious right now about getting support groups in each town,how nice would it be right now to have someone who's been in your shoes to come over,give you a shoulder,and maybe drink a cup of coffee and vent with????

#26 Sep 22 - 1PM (Reply to #17)

jaycee

stop the surfing

thanks sweetsam and used, you both are wonderful to hear from. sweet, you are right i have to stop surfing the net, it makes me crazy knowing all about them. thank God he had the pic removed, yes, the damage is done, the pic will forever be in my head, but at least i won this time, i got what i wanted, i wanted it removed and he made her do so. now there is one thing i had control over, and believe me, im sure he did it for himself and not me, but she will never know that, she will forever think he forced her to do it for me. good, one battle she will never win, him, he only wants what he wants, and she will someday realize that. and by the way, they both look disgusting, hes lost so much weight in the last month, stopped his last cycle of steroids, he looks as if he has cancer, and she, still as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside. he should really look in the mirror, he has aged ten years in six months, stress, steroids, alcohol, whatever it is, he looks like shit, and hopefully his ugliness from his inside will protrude more and more to his outside. maybe he will wake up tomorrow with giant boils all over his face and they will stay there for a year or two. lol............

Jaycee

#27 Sep 22 - 1PM (Reply to #18)

Used

jaycee

he already has a gigantic boil, it pays all his bills. lol.... that must have gutted her, him telling her to remove that off f/b.he has put you first. you are fighting back and you have just won the first round, but what a one to win... can you imagine what she is going to have to come up with about taking the pic,s of f/b, ahhhh, almost makes ya heart bleed.

#28 Sep 22 - 11AM (Reply to #15)

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cringes

he cringes at biegn on facebook... yeah course he does,, he cringes when people know his buisness, yeah course he does... thats why he is living with someone who made you a target for 2 years and everyone knew about it and he done nothing about it.. if he didnt want to be noticed he would have nipped her behavior in the bud. as quick as he is getting there pics off facebook. he lives to be noticed, talked about and any one and everyone can and does know his buisness he makes sure of that.... you are feeding him all the time.

#29 Sep 22 - 11AM (Reply to #14)

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more crap you are listening to, the pic,s where never going to stay there, once you had seen them job done, how can you leave a door open for your daughtersaying!knowing she will be in within hours. that statement doesnt make sense,, he has a key and your daughter doesnt!!!!. i think you should begin looking to your self jaycee and changing locks and also changing your mind set..

#30 Sep 22 - 11AM (Reply to #13)

anonymous

Jaycee - you're still not getting it

I'm sorry to be harsh - but you cannot be having these conversations with him. After what he did, he just strolled into your house?!? You need to change the locks on your doors, never mind leave your door open. He cannot be allowed to just waltz in whenever he feels like it!!!!! Change the locks, get your daughter a key, and don't allow him to have a copy. And stop talking to him. He's only hurting you.

#31 Sep 22 - 9AM

anonymous

Jaycee - I'm so sorry you are feeling this way

I know this is hard. But somehow, you're going to have to find a way to be cold and calculating to protect yourself and your daughter. Please see if this advice helps: 1) Get a lawyer, if you don't already have one. 2) "This morning he came by to get his mail". Tell him that he needs to either change his address or that you will mail his mail to him. Eliminate the mail as his excuse for stopping by. 3) Stop trolling the internet for him or his girlfriend(s) or friends. This behavior only hurts you and feeds his supply. 4) Don't beg him to stop you from feeling more hurt. Take control of your own feelings. An abusive man cannot make all of the hurt go away; all he knows how to do is inflict more pain. Only you can control your feelings. 5) You said he broke everything in the house. Call the police. Now. This is destruction of property, physical abuse, and could quickly escalate out of control. You need a restraining order. 6) He will never pay another bill again? He doesn't have that choice. A lawyer will help you draw up an agreement and he cannot legally get out of his responsibilities, no matter how much he tries to threaten you. 7) If you do do one thing he asks of you it should be this - don't ever call him or text him again. Any communication going forward between the two of you should occur through your attorney. If you communicate directly yourself, you are opening yourself up to be further abused. 8) Sure he likes coming back to the house and being best friends. And why do you think that is? Because he likes you as a best friend? Or because he can tell all his buddies and future GFs that he's such a great guy that even his ex-wife wants to be his best friend? Don't accept his crumbs. You will not ever have your marriage back (sorry to be harsh). Reject the rejector. 9) You will not be homeless because of this asshole. Hire a good lawyer and take him for everything that you legally deserve. 10) Don't call him at work. Don't call him at anything. Only your lawyer should call him. He told you to move on? Good, then do it, on YOUR terms, not HIS. 11) Who gives a shit about fucking FACEBOOK? Sorry again to be harsh, but Facebook is a psychopath's excuse for real relationships. You did this because you have been the victim of years and years of emotional abuse to the point where you can't see straight. Take control. Use the legal system for what it's there for - to protect you. And if he really was violent - CALL THE COPS. Don't clean up any of the mess he made. Take pictures. NOW! And get in to see your therapist immediately. Jaycee - I hope this helps. I'm thinking of you.

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