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#1 Dec 28 - 11AM
Sergie41
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!Quick Advice!

At it again.
After a physically abusive encounter in front of my Narc's sister, a restraining order, and plenty of my own research on Narcissism, he convinced me I was wrong for it all. After being faced with possibly loosing everything, including my own place. After I had my mind made up that I was done with every heart wrenching part of being in love with and in a relationship with him, I let my guard down.

He could not contact me because of the no contact order. So of course, my Narc found other ways to get to me and pull on my heart and mix up my mind. He used our mutual friends. Manipulated them into thinking I had ruined his life by throwing him in jail. With his so called 'career' he wouldn't be able to continue with Domestic Battery on his record. When he was arrested his car was impounded. He did not, at the time have insurance or a license. SO his car was impounded and fines had to be paid. So that in itself was MY fault because had I not gone to the police, he would not have been arrested, and he would still have his car and NO fines or fees. He manipulated a very good mutual friend into feeling sorry for him. She was convinced that no matter whose fault the entire situation, lives were being ruined. How could I not feel to blame??

I was in constant contact with his childrens mother. (we'll call her MOM) I was always picking up the slack for him when he 'forgot' what time his court ordered time was to pick up his children every Sunday. Or when the children weren't fed before being dropped off at home because their day was so full of activity and play they didn't slow down to eat. I was constantly doing my best to make him look better than what he was, especially with her. They had always had a strained relationship as a result of his bad relationships with women. He put blame on past girlfriends for ruining any good communication between he and MOM. I of course, wanted to be better for him and make his life as easy as possible.

MOM reached out to me as she always had when Narc was behaving badly. We had long phone conversations. To which we both realized just how much he had been lying to both of us. Whenever we would end a conversation, I would feel guilty. In the back of my mind I constantly told myself 'you shouldn't be talking to her as if she is your friend. THEY have children together and you need to stay out of that at all costs' My intentions were nothing more than expressing myself to someone that reached out to me when I truly needed someone. She knows the Narc very well, they grew up together. So it was a relief for her to reach out and to relate to her.

I knew that would he find out we had been speaking, he would somehow turn things around and make me look like someone I am not. He did exactly that. He was late to pick up his children on the court ordered time. She refused, legally to let him take the kids. If he's not on time within 15 minutes of the court ordered time, she is legally able to keep them at home with her. He flipped out. Knocked on her front door, banged on her back door, back to he front door. Left the house called from a family members phone. Came back banged on doors and looked through windows. MOM called the police. As a result, his kids mother filed for a restraining order against him. To which she was granted. She called the police, and THAT is when he was arrested for MY domestic Assualt charge, and his car was taken and he was thrown in jail.

So it became my fault. Because I 'had pissed off' his childrens mother, she was falsely accusing him of things because I was filling her head. I had already felt guilty talking with her, and my worst fears came true. He convinced everyone around him family and our friends that I was trying to ruin his life. I was going to stop at nothing to hurt him. I did the most painful thing of all and took his children 'the only thing he has' from him. I was taring his heart and life apart with my own two hands. For no reason. I was making up lies about what had happened the day he left bruises on my body. Everything I was accusing him of was what I had done. I had gotten into his face! He had bruises on HIM that I put there! I violently challenged him because I was going crazy! SO much crazy talk and manipulation.

He used facebook to make himself look like a victim and exploit how terrible a person I had become. "i miss my children so terribly bad! I feel as if they have been ripped from my life! I will pray for you!!! I HAVE FAITH!! I BELIEVE!!! The truth of these false accusations against me will come to light one day!!!' Such crazy Narc babel that only I could see right through. Mutual friends blocked me and followed his lead to use facebook to make him look like a victim. I did the best I could to ignore it all, but my walls were falling down and I was starting to feel terrible. He was turning what seemed to be everyone against me. I was slowly being convinced that I was the reason for pain.

So on goes the story of me trying to save my Narc. I dropped the restraining order and convinced him that would he get into counseling, it would look good to a judge. And he wouldn't loose custody of his children. The less violent he looked, the better his chances of seeing his children. The more steps he took to better his situation, like counseling, the better he would look to a judge.

I started staying the night with him, spending every free second with him. He had moved in with his sister and her boyfriend. He was sweet as could be. Brushing snow off my car, making me breakfast, the list goes on. It took less than a week for the honeymoon stage to end. He was back to his gaslighting. I was back to feeling like a small child, anxious, and walking on egg shells.

Then he confessed to me that his sister (a 21 year old suicidal drunk) was being her normal drunk self, and tried to sleep with him. He couldn't tell her boyfriend because he likes the guy and needs a place to stay. 'He didn't sleep with her he would never touch her he knows better, that's gross that's nasty' Me trying to be his mommy, pressed him to tell the boyfriend. No one deserves to be lied to no matter the situation. He couldn't tell him. SO I told the boyfriend one night when he called my phone looking for my Narc. The boyfriend blew it off 'she blacks out and does stuff like that when she drinks it doesn't surprise me'

So the heat between his sister and I began. We ended up getting into a nasty fight via text one day. Narc stood up for me when we were alone, but never otherwise. He would talk bad about her and tell me he didn't want to hang out with her or be around her because of the crazy person she is. But when she was around, they would be best friends as if nothing had happend. How can I stay calm and act as if this isn't bothering me?? One night I even cried myself to sleep next to Narc, because all I wanted was to be away from that house away from her and that entire messed up situation. I wanted my own bed, and I knew if I expressed my feelings to him, he would never understand. He would turn things around to make me feel as if I was over reacting or going crazy. Instead of being genuinely concerned about my tears, he opened a book with a small book light and relaxed himself. The only thing I could do, was bury my head and let the tears fall.

At this point, I want to cut off all contact once again. In his Narc world time revolves around him and he doesn't feel the need to contact me for full days at a time. If I don't do my best to get ahold of him, then I 'must be with someone else or thinking about someone else, maybe an ex' that he has become so obsessed and jealous over. I am so exhausted and confused from everyday that I'm involved with Narc.

I am usually an outgoing in some ways workaholic. I've always been very social and upbeat. Now, I can't work. I can't bring myself to clean my house. I'm on the verge of loosing my apartment I've had, even before Narc showed up in my life. I'm being forced to apply for assistance through my state for food and utilities and rent. This is exactly where he wants me to be. He wants me helpless and feeling like I need him. I have SO MUCH support from family and friends and even my landlord knowing my situation. My landlord has reached out and agreed to be patient about me not being able to afford rent. I've paid rent for over 2 1/2 years on time every time until now. She knows what getting away from an abusive relationship takes from you, so she refuses to mention me moving out.

There is so much love and support surrounding me, that I feel even worse for letting them down. If they find out I dropped the restraining order and put myself back in the situation with the Narc, I will most likely loose their support. My landlord could turn her back on me. I could loose my place and I would be forced to live with the Narc. My brothers would still talk to me, but would stop any financial help they've provided to me.

I know dropping contact completely will throw Narc into a rage once again. There is no telling what he will pull or who he will manipulate to make me look bad or to bring me back to him.

Today I have no spoken to Narc. he texted me late last night after a full day of no contact 'i love you i miss you, are you coming over' I didn't respond. I put my phone on silent once it hit 10 oclock (my cut off for waiting for him to contact me). He texted at 1030, a half an hour after I was overly fed up. He hasn't texted again today.

Help everyone! I need support quick!

Dec 28 - 11PM
justicejones
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Sergie~

I read your whole post. Girlfriend, you need to leave this guy! He is not good for you. Is this how you want to spend your life? If you are holding onto the nice things he says, writes, texts, does...don't! It isn't genuine, and it's to get what he wants from you. He wants your soul, to suck it out like a vampire. He wants the supply you give him, and the fact you care and keep it all together for him. Don't feel sorry for him at all! He is in the boat he is in because of his own actions! Not anything you have done. When he is blaming you, it is to make him feel better about himself. Are you hoping he will change? Do you feel that "there really is some good in there somewhere" and that you have seen it? What you have seen is an act! Your safety is so important. It's time to go NC with him, MOM, kids, mutual friends. He must have them buffalo-ed them too. He is very manipulative in his FB, from what it sounds cause he doesn't want anyone to know the truth and his true self. It is in your best interest to keep up the restraining order, change your number, stay with someone who can help keep you safe. Do not go back. It may seem hard, but it is the very best thing you could do for yourself. My story can relate in some ways re: restraining order. It isn't under My story, someone moved it to the regular forum. It is titled I AM ADDICTED AND HE IS MY DRUG OF CHOICE. You don't have to, but you can see that you aren't alone. I will be praying for you. Hugs and Loves.
Dec 28 - 3PM
Sergie41
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Keeping myself busy and making myself laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxUuDPNbkJk Toby Keith I wanna Talk About Me ;)
Dec 28 - 1PM
Briseis
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What is it that you want to

What is it that you want to do Sergie? I can think of a million things *I* think you need to do. What do you think you need to do?
Dec 28 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
Sergie41
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What I know I want

Is to be free from all the harassing and crazy details of a toxic relationship. I want a healthy relationship with the people around me, a lover, and most of all MYSELF. I want and need direction. I know the facts of how unhealthy this relationship is for me. There is no way for me to move forward in my life with Narc in it. He will forever pull me down and backwards. I want a loving, caring, relationship full of empathy for one another. I will never find that with Narc, so I want to be as far away from him as possible. I honestly would love to put distance between us by moving out of the area. Being that I am not financially stable enough I cannot make that decision right now. Eventually I will be moving out of the area. My social network or friends has been poisoned by the Narc, therefore I need a new branch of friends. My close friends remain. I need and want to take care of myself and get my life back! I want to have the power to not fall victim to the Narc and be pulled back in. I'm done being hurt and confused. I am a healthy beautiful and fun loving woman inside. I've been hiding this person inside for fear of the Narc. I'm ready to feel special once again and stand on my own two feet as well. I've always been extremely independent, and I want that part of me back. Being independent and working hard to improve my life and not being stagnant, is a strong quality of who I am. I want it all back! And it looks like I'm going to have to go through a lot more to take it back. I have stumbled and fallen. Getting back up is what I'm in the process of. I have wounds from the fall and some scars too. But I had to go through it all to have the life I will have in my future.
Dec 28 - 2PM (Reply to #7)
Briseis
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((((Applause :D ))))) OK

((((Applause :D ))))) OK then. Block his number from your phone. I realize this costs money sometimes? You have to buy a special app? What a crock of crap, but if you can at all do this, that's the first thing to do. The next thing is to prepare yourself for him to harass you personally. Yep, by banging on your doors and windows. He seems to feel this is perfectly acceptable. Make sure every door and window is locked and secured. The MOMENT he shows up on your doorstep, get the phone in your hand. It's a no brainer but I was once in your shoes with a maniac banging on my window, and I thought I could talk him down. So I opened it a crack. I was embarassed at the noise he was making. Don't do what I did. Simply call 911. You'll end up getting asked a lot of questions, like why did you drop the RO in the first place. Just be HONEST. You "fell for it", you have mutual friends who kept at you and at you to drop it, that he was sorry and going to get counseling, and you finally just fell for it. Now, you KNOW better, you are in a support group for domestic violence (us :D ) and you realize the only answer is to have no contact. You've blocked your phone and you aren't going to speak to the "friends" anymore and you are willing to file any and all charges that apply, and show up for any court hearings that are required. You UNDERSTAND this time. You are willing to go to a shelter if need be. Yadda yadda yadda. All true stuff. Once you cancel a RO, the police *MIGHT* hold it against you. They should be more understanding, and some of them are. But since they are over-worked and underpaid human beings no better than anyone else, they get bitter and cynical about all their efforts getting undone by brainwashed abuse victims. Then, hold onto your butt :) Bring all questions, espeically the ones where you question yourSELF here. Keep in close contact with your therapist. Keep the great goal in mind. Your personal SAFETY. This guy is frightening, he doesn't give a shit about how outrageous and out of control his behavior is. He doesn't seem to care if he looks like a maniac (it's all your fault). You need our help and the help of law enforcement to do this. But foremost, YOU are your best front line support. And in turn, you can be your own worst enemy. Your fear or concern about what other people think of you? That's one example. If someone were to detest you for PROTECTING yourself, that is a person who can go straight to Hell, yanno?? Are they the ones with their lives at stake? Seriously! This is where you shoot yourself in the foot. Just start today. Keep us posted. I would bet money that he'll be personally harassing you soon. So I want you to check in here. Even just to get some thoughts or feelings off your chest. Keep your phone charged, OK? Keep it in your pocket. Get ready.
Dec 28 - 2PM (Reply to #8)
Sergie41
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yikes

I truly enjoy the way you word things! You have a way of pumping out information and making me smile at the same time. thank you! Narc called from a mutual friends phone. I just got back from a run and read your post as well as listened to a voicemail from the Narc on friends phone. I had a conversation via text with the mutual friend today. My relationship with the Narc was mentioned and I let friend know it's time for Narc and I to take a step back from each other. And our relationship is ending. Not in detail because this is a mutual friend. The more I say to mutual friends the more trouble it will cause for everyone, including myself. The message Narc left me on voicemail "Hey, it's Narc. Friend just stopped by and I'm workin. He said you have been texting him all day or something saying your pissed off about something, I don't know. I tried to text you a bunch of times last night and even called. Didn't get a response no nothing, whataver. Just let me know whats going on. He said you don't want to be with me anymore or something, or whatever. Just let me know, alright bye' Wow. Crazy making! he did not call. Yes he texted me. Yes i did not respond. Yes he KNEW I would be pissed because he hadn't made time to contact me the entire day till 1030. Something we would go in circles arguing about many MANY times in the past. He's already worded things as being a victim and was gaslighting. holy cow so strange so crazy But I don't have time for it all
Dec 28 - 12PM
Leah
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Sergie41...I only have a minute to write to you

but I want you to hear this... The way you're intertwined with the narc right now is toxic and dangerous for yourself. 'No contact' protects you. Otherwise, you're pulled into an alter-universe that he creates and you get caught in it. Do you have a therapist? If you do, today's the day to call them and tell them you're in crisis. If you don't, there are domestic violence clinics where you can go & get emergency counseling & a list of next-steps to protect yourself. Please take care of yourself. I understand why you feel trapped. Now you just need to pull yourself out again. Keep posting and make a list of people you can call when you're tempted to contact the narc. Call them or text them instead. Sending hugs of support, Leah
Dec 28 - 1PM (Reply to #4)
Sergie41
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tryin to say strong

Thank you Leah! I've contacted my therapist, with good results and I feel empowered. I've made plans to keep myself busy for everyday possible. And for the times that I am not busy or alone, I have this site and plenty of numbers and friends that will pull me out of any danger or wanting to contact Narc. As of this moment Narc cannot come within so many feet of my house or even drive down a street that runs along my block. So I'm safe from him actually coming to my house. My next step will be to get the no contact order reinstated. That will just take a quick visit to the Police Department. It feels amazing to have support and I thank you so very much for stepping up to the plate for me! It's only been a few hours since I've told myself once again that I am done, (finally!) this time with Narc. My mood has changed drastically already! I feel like my rambunctious self again! Thank you Thank you so much again and again! I will keep everyone posted all day today and as possible in the near future.
Dec 28 - 12PM
justicejones
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Stay strong! I feel you and

Stay strong! I feel you and know what you are going through. Stay NC with this guy! He is classic N! Just think how happy your life will be when you can rise above this all. Be patient, it will take time! I will read your story more closely soon, when my eleven year old isn't bugging me to se the computer. I will get back to you, and most likely others of us will too by then! hugs and loves!
Dec 28 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Sergie41
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Thank you for your time!

Your life seems busy but you still made time to reach out to me. Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing more from you