Plans...

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#1 Jul 9 - 3PM
rhiannon
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Plans...

I've been doing a lot of reflecting today, and something that always drove me crazy was my exN's complete inability to make PLANS.

His famous quote was, "My plan is to have no plans."

I remember one night after work I had just gotten to his place, and was waiting for him to come home for dinner. I waited and waited, and when he didn't call, I called his cell. When I asked him when he was coming home, he got all defensive, and that's when he first made that "my plan is to have no plans" comment. Then he said, "I might be home in 2 minutes; I might be home in 3 hours. Figure it out yourself." Oh, it gets my blood boiling just thinking about that conversation that night. I just couldn't believe that someone could be so inconsiderate of someone else's time and feelings. And he supposedly LOVED me!

I guess their "plan" with "no plans" is to keep us confused as hell?? They like to "keep their options open?" Has anyone else experienced this insanity?

Jul 9 - 6PM
broken23
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Jul 9 - 5PM
broken23
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yes completely disrespectful

yes completely disrespectful of my time! we were doing long distance, and so many times he would try to change plans on me the last second even though i would have a plane ticket booked. it was ridiculous. if i tried to talk about it instead of being sorry he would say ill reimburse you for the ticket...i shouldve probably tested this theory. when we were going to las vegas, a day before he was having second thoughts, i was so pissed and said well ill go without you and take a friend, guess who decided they could show up. and ofcourse once i was late picking him up from the gym like 15 minutes...and he was pouting like a 5 year old, and yelling at me for being late. jerks. just wondering...for those who are married, did they not commit to plans as well?
Jul 9 - 4PM
NinjaGirl
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I'm starting to wonder if mine was a narc

He was completely predictable. Wake up, eat breakfast (same thing), go to work. Eat lunch (same thing every day, I'm not kidding), come home. Eat dinner that he either picked up from a fast food place or something his mommy made, get cleaned up, go for a walk with his mommy, go downstairs and play video games, look at his transgender sites, read, clean up, call me. The weekend varied EVER so slightly, but not much. He only eats about 17 foods (I WISH I were kidding) and wears the same color shirt every day. As my mom said, he was a DUD. God, if he had ever had a plan or done anything outside his routine I would have been overcome with shock.
Jul 9 - 6PM (Reply to #22)
Amy
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HA!

Mine had a routine too, and it could NOT be deviated from! He too only ate a limited group of foods.
Jul 9 - 7PM (Reply to #23)
awayfromhim
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Ohhhh….the food thing. He

Ohhhh….the food thing. He didn't like melted cheese but ate pizza and nachos. So, wait, if you don't like melted cheese but eat pizza….nevermind. But if I made home made mac and cheese for the kids he would, and I'm not kidding, sniff the air and then say in this childish voice "yuuuucccckkkk!!" The first time I made it in my new place I could still hear his annoying "yuuuuccckkkk!!" and then I smiled and ate a big spoonful of gooey wonderful cheesey macaroni. :-)
Jul 9 - 5PM (Reply to #20)
NinjaGirl
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But

31 isn't that old, and I'm older than he is. And he's always been like that. Ever since I met him when he was 25.
Jul 9 - 7PM (Reply to #21)
better off
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Oh, I was just kidding. But

Oh, I was just kidding. But now you've made me think of Norman Bates.
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #16)
better off
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Yours was probably just old

Yours was probably just old and tired! These young narcs are probably drinking Red Bull too. haha Need lots of energy to go to prom.
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #17)
rainbow1
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betteroff

hahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Mine is a Red Bull freak! And just went to prom! That made me laugh so hard! Thank you!

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Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #18)
better off
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I know! I love to make that

I know! I love to make that prom dig every chance I can. hahaha. Did they wear matching jackets?
Jul 9 - 5PM (Reply to #19)
rainbow1
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betteroff

Wow! I am so impressed with your memory! I am not sure if they did or not! haha. But you can be positive that her dress matched his tie!

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"dont let yesterday take up too much of today"

Jul 9 - 4PM
blindedbythenarc
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making plans without him

I got so sick of him keeping me from making plans, especially vacation and trips. I started saying, "fine I'll do it without you." This really gets under their skin. He would rage. Once we were in Cancun with another couple (where they guy is also a Narc) The 3 of us were negotiating with a salesperson for a tour to Chizen Itza.. and got a really good price for the next day. When I went to tell my Ex N, (note we were in a tourist mall) who was looking at really expensive watches or sunglasses, totally in his OWN WORLD, said he didn't want us to go that day, he wanted to party and sleep in.. and as I was aimlessly explaining why we needed to take this deal.. i said, "we are going and you can stay." He threw a ragging fit like a child (he's 36) in front of our friends, and eventually gave-in.. I WON! Ofcourse once we were back from vacation he proclaimed to everyone about the deal HE got and that if they were planning a trip to Cancun, he was the expert on knowing what to do.
Jul 9 - 3PM
ewa
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I am pretty sure he had the

I am pretty sure he had the plans but he just did not want to share them with you. Mine always had pans, but i knew only when i asked or found out myself. When he was going to go to the business trip he would inform me one or 2 days before. When i asked him why didnt he tell me that earlier, he used to say he did not want to upset me /as he knew i dont like that he is disappearing for one or 2 weeks every month/..He basically shared his pans with me only if he saw the benefit out of it. He did not like to share them with me just for my information.
Jul 9 - 3PM
ewa
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Jul 9 - 3PM
Amy
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I am guessing...

I am guessing he always wanted to know what YOUR plans were though - where you would be and what you were doing at all times?
Jul 9 - 3PM (Reply to #11)
rhiannon
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Well, of course! He always

Well, of course! He always had a different set of rules than me.
Jul 9 - 3PM
rainbow1
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"I dont make plans"

That is what mine used to say all of the time! "I dont make plans". Which is a lie! And if we did make plans he would break them just to punish me for making them in the first place. We never did what I wanted to do. It was always last minute stuff. Or we would have plans and he would just walk out the door to go to a friends house. When I asked what he was doing he would say "I told you, this is why I dont make plans so I can do what I want when I want" I f*cking hate him so much! It would drive me crazy all the time because I am a planner. It was probably one of the things that we fought about the most. I would ask him to give me some notice so I could make my own plans but no he decided right then and there what he wanted to do. So I was left doing nothing or trying to figure something out. This is another time he would tell me that I am "too needy" or clingy. I have a lot of friends but he made me feel like a loser all of the time if I didnt have back up plans when he wanted to leave me!

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"dont let yesterday take up too much of today"

Jul 9 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
Amy
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well he also probably liked

well he also probably liked when you were sitting at home when he was doing whatever - which is why he didn't give you advance notice so you couldn't make plans for yourself!
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
rainbow1
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Exactly!

I remember before we lived together he would make plans to go to the illegal street races with his friends that were at 1am. I would tell him to have fun and I would say that I was going home. He would beg and plead for me to stay the night at his house without him! He said he wanted to come back to me and he would even say "I LIKE KNOWING WHERE YOU ARE AND THAT YOU ARE IN MY BED WAITING FOR ME" ! What a freak! And I used to think that this was so sweet and romantic! Yuck!

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"dont let yesterday take up too much of today"

Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Amy
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I remember

I remember our first fight. We had been dating for 6 months. He was going to dinner (and knowing him - a strip club) with a friend of his. I didn't have my son, so I told him I was going to take myself out for dinner. He said "why don't you just stay home and read a book?" Not kidding... I went anyway, and he completely went ballistic on me! The next day he said he didn't know why he reacted like that, but that he was protective and didn't want anything bad to happen to me. I should have recognized that red flag! He seriously expected to go out and do what he wanted while I sat at home not knowing anything.
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #7)
rhiannon
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I could have written that!

I could have written that! OMG. Mine loved street racing. He even had his own race car. He loved the "rush." I also got the "I like knowing where you are and that you're in my bed waiting" bit. And I, too, thought "how sweet!" You're right, rainbow1... YUCK.
Jul 9 - 4PM (Reply to #8)
rainbow1
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typical

Mine has a street bike that he races and turned my car into a race car. They are all about the "rush". That is so creepy that you got the SAME LINE! I can not believe that!

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Jul 9 - 3PM (Reply to #4)
rhiannon
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"I told you, this is why I

"I told you, this is why I dont make plans so I can do what I want when I want" UGH! Mine said that very same thing. Oh, it pissed me off. I'm a planner, too. I was always telling him some notice would be nice. He just didn't care!
Jul 9 - 3PM
awayfromhim
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Yes, all the time. I'd ask

Yes, all the time. I'd ask for something and responses varied, but, basically he would not commit to things all the time. Unless, of course, it was something HE wanted to do. Let's see… - oh, I think I can do that, but not sure - I will help, but no guarantees - well, I never know what's going to come up but I can do that, I guess - Friday? hmmm…well, it's only Wednesday so I'll see about that on Friday - no, I didn't say I would do that, I said I MIGHT do it, no wonder you're confused It's a form of abuse to keep you guessing and struggling. Ns are notorious for this kind of crap.
Jul 9 - 3PM (Reply to #2)
Lisa E. Scott
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Yep!

Awayfromhim - you are so right: "It's a form of abuse to keep you guessing and struggling. Ns are notorious for this kind of crap." They get off on seeing us squirm and struggle to figure out what's going on.