Outing the N

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#1 May 10 - 12PM
daisyme
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Outing the N

Hi all

Has anyone had any experiences or thoughts about exposing the N?

Not as a revenge tactic, but for revealing the truth about all the "behind-closed doors" lies, manipulation and overt/covert emotional, physical, financial abuse.

I, as many of you may feel, have been silenced for a very long time.

Thoughts?
/d

May 11 - 2PM
ifinallygotit
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it is his greatest fear

He blocked me from being able to comment on his fan page, his best friend's fan page and his employer's fan page! Of course I never would anyway but thought his fear was interesting. He did this after he realized I saw a pic of him and new GF on his FB and then blocked him (simply to not torture myself seeing his new life unfold). i think he is afraid I will wreck his new job and new resurgence of fame with fans...his IMAGE is his worry. He HAS been outed publicly in the past on TV by a woman who had his baby in the late 90's - he refused to pay child support and the state went after his personal belongings with an auction...maybe he was angry but he did not change his behavior, did not get better with payments, did not stop abusing women - the outing really had almost no effect on him. He is still popular and famous though not rich...
May 11 - 2PM (Reply to #12)
ifinallygotit
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Outing

They have intense shame about their behavior even though they do not have compassion for the effect it has on others...I think about outing too, but think it would hurt me more than him. Plus, it does not impact the disorder - just might make them uncomfortable for awhile (lose a job, money or a GF). But they just lay low and bounce back...
May 11 - 2PM (Reply to #13)
Susan32
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Tasting his intense shame...

I outed the ex-Psych prof to his colleagues... but IMHO, I think they already knew who he was, and had begun distancing themselves from him my junior year. It was after I met his girlfriend. I calmly, nonchalantly told his colleagues that he hadn't told me he already had a girlfriend. The colleague who had gone to grad school with him gave me a sad, sympathetic look. I even got a moment of silence. I announced this after the ex-P had already made a run for it, and the girlfriend went running after him. The outing wasn't planned. The last thing I needed to be was weeping&hysterical when I made the announcement. He kinda sensed that I sensed HIS shame, and that I had deemed it finger-licking good.
May 10 - 9PM
daisyme
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outing

thanks for the input ;-). This is something that I've been tossing around as I sometimes find the silence absolutely deafening. What stops me are the reasons that everyone has mentioned so far. As spinning mentioned, how it will boomerang back. Retaliation, the strength of his public facade (his friends appear to view him as the coolest dude ever even though some are aware of his abuse in a previous relationship), the risk of being painted as the crazy one, waste of time/energy etc.... It's not anyone's responsbility to change them (that's a lost cause) or be the engineer of any consequences. On the other hand, by being silent about, it sometimes feels as though I'm still protecting him. When I fantasize about breaking the silence, I view it has having a voice, and that (at least right now) feels empowering. I don't care what he thinks, his friends think, or whether he refutes it or not. I often wonder what it would feel like to lay it all out on the table. Just a thought, and will in all likelihood remain a thought ;-). My exN is prone to violent outbursts and I'm fearful of any kind of retaliation. Personal safety, peace of mind, first and foremost. hugs to all /d
May 11 - 12PM (Reply to #10)
Ladydb123
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Put Yourself First

I truly understand all the thoughts and emotions you are going through. We are human, however, try thinking long term/big picture and not just short term getting him back. You are protecting (empowering)yourself not him. All of his actions and behaviors are self-destructing him, he wiil eventualy end up old, alone, sick and all the other vultures will gladly pick his bones clean. He will reap what he sowed!!!
May 10 - 6PM
Tinker
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outing

don't think there's a good way to do this that protects you. i think all N's are dangerous to some degree when cornered. goes back to NC, just remove yourself from the negativity...
May 10 - 2PM
SoaperGirl
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I posted him on Cheaterville and on my Blog

I put his profile up on the Cheaterville website. I got an interesting comment back from another person: "Yes he's a real dirt bag alright. As ugly on the inside as he is on the outside." I want to meet whoever posted it, and get to know them better! It really made my day. I think another reason he abandoned his website is that people were starting to get wise to the fact that he's not normal, that something was seriously wrong with him. Maybe it was the public meltdown, the accusations that all his ex "perfect" loves were nuts, or that he could be deeply in love with a woman one week, and another the next. Or him screaming he was insane. (Loved that one!) Red flags galore! He's also featured on my blog at: http://soapergirl.blogspot.com/
May 10 - 1PM
Ladydb123
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Don't give away your Power

I have done a lot of reading about Narcs and one of their greatest fears is being outed. In away you hold some leverage over them by not taking revenge. They know that you have all the nasty goods on them and their lies, it's not going to change them or their behavior towards any woman. They would do anything and everything to ruin your reputation as well as paint you as the crazy one. They just don't care........ Outing them is a source of supply it simply lets them know that you are still thinking about them and giving them the pleasure nuggets of attention that they want. Keep yourself safe.......
May 10 - 1PM
momoya
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o yes

Daisyme Yes I have had thoughts of exposing the N, an idea OW3 put in my head about reporting him to his command. But in the end it was not the route to take. I noticed through email exchanges (OW Sent me that he had sent her) that he was totally different in his manner. And although these things were easily proved between the 3 of us (Me, OW3 and Wife2), this was a personal matter and he was a grown -ass MAN so I would of had to of gone through alot of trouble and energy to bring his actions out and 'out' him as you say. The mind can run rampant with creative ideas, eventually my anger gave way to entertaining thoughts of revenge, nothing completely awful but enough to hang up his life a little. In the end I took no action and he was aloof and I Know that he will never contact any of his old supply sources because we all SAW him for what he was - and he above anyone else couldn't STAND that we knew all about every lie. I guess it really depends on the method of delivering you have ( i deleted over 500+ emails from him that would of provided solid proof of his words to me- could of been useful) and through photo proof of a misdeed too. Another person on the board did out the N on FB and they are an interaction on his wall though he didn't recognize who was posting or commenting on his Narcness. I personally think that once they know that you have their number, and you know what he is now - they don't come back because it is NO USE trying to extract supply from us anymore. The thing he would absolutely hate the MOST is to be outted to his 2 daughters. i may save that one in my back pocket for 10 years until they are older to understand. But really that is the only people he cares about or what they think of him. And, this info to their ears would most likely insight him into rage toward me. I have thought this through. But it's not something I want to put my energy into anymore. It's my job to learn about NPD but, not to warn the world.

momoya

May 10 - 12PM
wacaet
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I posted mine on the dating

I posted mine on the dating sites and also emailed his wife. I've since deleted the dating site stuff because I got scared of retaliation. I really wish someone had outed him in the past, I'm a chronic googler, I would have found it. I did put up a new warning on dont date him girl with info but not his name.
May 10 - 12PM
spinning
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daisy, I struggled with

this for quite some time. Still do at 6 months one week NC. When I posted here to ask others what they thought a lot of the advice was that doing so will boomerang...you could look like the crazy one...it's also giving him supply (in that whoever you tell then tells him and then he knows you are still thinking about him)...the risk that people wouldn't believe you (depends on how good an actor he was and how secure his mask was around others), etc. I HATE BEING SILENT ABOUT IT. But after considering the fact that outing him (especially to the very few people who still think he's a misunderstood genius) would be giving him supply. I do not him to know that I spend even ONE MONENT on who or what he is. That stops me. Hope this helps, daisy. Ultimately we have to do what's right for us. I still struggle with this one almost every day. But I have to question my motives. Ask what is my intent and what outcome do I expect to realize? Hugs and peace from spinning (just a little from anger but still determined to stop)

spinning

May 10 - 1PM
Hunter
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After 8 months of silence ,I

After 8 months of silence ,I told everything he is, I laughed at him, he couldn't work his way out, it's a waste of time, everything was turned around and the lies! Have at it, ONE BIG WASTE of TIME! As far as advertising it, they lie,lie,lie Hunter
May 10 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
Redhead1
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I disagree somewhat on not

I disagree somewhat on not having closure with a narc. By realizing what he is and going NC, I found closure. I don't need any closure from him. I have 20 years history with him, he will not change. My daughter and I were talking tonight. She told me if I ever went back to him, she would never speak to me again. If he tried to hoover, she would beat him down. I ask her why, when I could do it. She is afraid I can't resist his bullshit because I accepted it so long. I am done, I want more in a relationship or don't want one at all. I still have little trigger moments and read all I can to keep my brain trained. I just don't want to go back to living like that. So I closed it. I am not a dramatic person at all, maybe even boring. I sooo love my drama free life. I use facebook as drama. I read about other peoples drama and laugh. Then close it out and Thank God I am drama free. My push-n-pull crisis are with my daughters new kitty, and I love it. I tried to be a good student here and you ladies have taught me so much. I do think I am becoming a success story and I am so proud to say that. I could not have done it without you all. I hope you receive many blessing for the blessings you gave me:) XOXOXOXO to you all.