Out of sight out of mind

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#1 Nov 2 - 11AM
Sea
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Out of sight out of mind

During old narcky days, i will not hear from the narc for days and weeks if he is having fun. Like a friend came for a visit, go on holiday with an ex (ya i must be brainwashed so badly to allow this!), his mum in town etc. He will just forget about me, total silence. When it ends he will just happily walk back to my life no reasons no apologise.

Did any of u suffer this treatment before? This came to my mind tonite, i just want to let it out.

Thanks
Sumiko

Nov 4 - 4AM
ifinallygotit
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happened alot and sometimes when I was in view!

And it always felt crazy!!! One time I was invited to a barbecue a few houses away from him. He refused to go with me. Afterwards, I stopped by his house to say hello and a few of his buddies were there getting ready to have their own barbecue (one was famous and exN seemed to idolize him). ExN came out to the street to talk to me to keep me away from his friends at the house (we had been together about 7 years then!). I asked him to introduce me and he did in the most superficial way and then shooed me away - he SO preferred their company and maybe he was ashamed of me?? he always said not, but now I think he was. Other times, when he had house guests, he would just completely shut me out of his life suddenly and completely with no discussion! I never knew what was going on it was so weird and hurtful. I guess they totally compartmentalize and cannot handle integrating a significant (? not!) other into all the aspects of their lives. I hate to say it but we were just lovers to them, not worthy of sharing their full lives with. Mine never shared his hopes and dreams with me -
Nov 3 - 4AM
Syren66 (not verified)
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My mom had terminal cancer.

My mom had terminal cancer. He was about as detached as a person could possibly be throughout. THEN when she passed, he threw a fit because I "wasn't sharing any information with him"...apparently his asshole family wanted to send flowers (read: hollow platitudes) and didn't have any details about the funeral arrangements. My family didn't want or need their flowers...I didn't care to share anything meaningful and deep in my life with him at that point. He was absent throughout and NOW I'm obligated to give him a daily update so his phony family can put on the airs and graces? At MY MOTHER'S FUNERAL?!?!? I don't THINK so. I told him to let his family know that her obituary is published and that both he and them can obtain details from the newspaper. I was never so disgusted with another human being in my life as I was and still am with him. I will never forgive him for the way he treated me while she was ill...and any time I have ever thought of reconciling, all I have to do is think of that 16 month stretch of my life and I'm instantly CURED of that notion. If his family really wanted to know what was going on, they would have read the obit...they were just being nosy...trying to get closer to the car crash, in other words, to see the actual blood and suffering...and I was in no mood. Months after we split, that topic came up...I told him he did nothing while my mom was sick...his reply? "You can say I didn't do enough. But it's not true that I did nothing...I stayed at home with your son the night you and your dad took her to the hospital"...REALLY...because I remember things a little differently...my son was with his father that night (visitation)...and the narc chose to stay at home practicing with his friends while me and my 70 year-old father carried my mother out of their house to take her to the hospital. Didn't do enough indeed. See how they twist things around? He couldn't face that I had a legitimate gripe with him...he instead revised history so that he could claim he was a human being when he and I both know good and damn well, he wasn't. Out of sight out of mind = peace & quiet. I can't think of a single bad thing about that equation.
Nov 3 - 4AM (Reply to #24)
Sea
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He is trying to gaslight u. I

He is trying to gaslight u. I got those too. Very irritating and absolutely drives u crazy. They trying to rewrite history.
Nov 3 - 5AM (Reply to #25)
Syren66 (not verified)
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Oh yes, he was definitely

Oh yes, he was definitely doing that...it didn't make me doubt what really happened - I KNEW what really happened all too well. I wanted to smash his face in when he pulled that gaslighting shit...it didn't make me crazy; it made me see red.
Nov 2 - 6PM
meik11
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I got that treatment all the

I got that treatment all the time; sometimes out of the clear blue. it might be after an argument or for no reason at all. Once he told me he was depressed. Another time it was because his mother was in the hospital and he was stressed. Another time it was he was sick... These were all times a normal person would reach out to his significnat other, not him. Probably because I wasn't significant at all, nobody is. Probably because he was lieing. I would be in shock and hurt every time, but would still except him back. He did it to me once within the first 6 months of our relationship. When he saw how easily I let him back I was marked. The thing with them is you never know their reasons for anything. They are blank and empty and will turn on you in a second and not think twice about it...then turn around and come back like nothing happened....
Nov 3 - 12AM (Reply to #17)
Sea
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Yes normal people becomes

Yes normal people becomes closer thru events in their lives and would want to keep the partner in all major events. This does no apply to the disordered. We end up feeling rejected, left out and not valued. I actually meant nothing to him and that hurts. He made me take him as a significant other but he did not do likewise. Felt cheated also.
Nov 3 - 10AM (Reply to #20)
Susan32
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Being left out

The ex-Psych NEVER told me he already had a girlfriend (yet he knew I was dating, and during class he'd complain to his students about it) I was devastated that he didn't tell ME, because he KNEW full well I was in love with him. If you know somebody is in love with you, and you're (a)not interested or (b)already in a relationship-SAY SO. I had a male friend whom I had a crush on-but he was honest about his lack of interest, he told me about his engagement-and our friendship not only survived, but thrived. Honesty&respect kept it alive. I saw the ex-P as MY FRIEND. I told him he could've told me about his girlfriend, and he said "Don't bring me down to your level." I was hurt. When I met his girlfriend, I felt ENTITLED to the truth. All he did was the victim act of "You put ME in an awkward position." When I congratulated him on being engaged, he claimed I was "imposing myself on him and violating his personal boundaries" (by then I didn't care;I would've violated his personal boundaries gleefully) A year after the D&D, I learned that he was a husband&a father of twins. I sent him emails congratulating him on both. I guess I was a virtual wedding crasher. I was angry-not because I wasn't the bride-but because I wasn't invited to the wedding... and I LOVE weddings. The ex-P acted as if I were a special friend. A FRIEND, not a girlfriend. I treated him as a friend;with respect, honesty. I meant nothing to him because of my "role" (his words) as a student. I wasn't invited to the wedding (in the real sense)-but like Vince Vaughn&Owen Wilson, I crashed it. I invited myself (in the virtual sense). I had felt so left out a year afterwards, I didn't care I was acting in an entitled way towards him. As for his "Think of me as JUST A TEACHER" I can only wonder how he felt when he got "congratulations" and "happy for you now that you're a father." Imposing myself? I didn't care!
Nov 3 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
Sea
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Susan from all your posts so

Susan from all your posts so far your exP looks like a procupine. Stroke it u get pricked all over. Insult it he releases needles on u. What a loveless creature!
Nov 3 - 10AM (Reply to #22)
Susan32
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Porky's

What baffled me was the cold way he treated his girlfriend (now his wife) I was EXPECTING the Happy Act that so many other posters have seen here-the glow of the honeymoon period-and for some reason I was deprived of that, maybe because it would've given closure in an EPIC sense. I would've been disappointed he wasn't in love with me, but I would've been let down easy. It would've hurt like a flu shot... but it wouldn't have been full-on agony. I remember the ex-P quoting his favorite philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, in which Schopenhauer compares people to... porcupines and you just have to keep your distance. I read here about Ns/Ps who put up Happy Facebook updates about weddings&having kids, playing the roles of Gleeful Newlywed&Disney Dad... and it makes me envious in a way. I've heard the Buddhist saying of "joy in the joy of another." I was happy when my sister got married;I was at her wedding. I wasn't the one going to the altar... but I was still happy for her. I remember telling the ex-P "You could've told me about your girlfriend so I could be happy for you." With the ex-P, "happy for you" takes on a whole other meaning... once one takes his cold lack of emotion, mimicking and mirroring in mind. I was the one capable of being happy for him... sorta like at work when I do a shift for someone else because they're on vacation or sick. Being happy for him would've been like working someone else's shift. His response to that? "Don't think about me, focus on yourself!" I don't marry porcupines. Just humans.
Nov 3 - 7AM (Reply to #18)
meik11
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Yes Sea, cheated is not the

Yes Sea, cheated is not the word. I felt robbed, swindled, conned. He took so much from me and I was totally blind at the time. I think sometimes we don't value our emotional health the way we should. If a man was stealing from my purse or from my home I would never allow him back in. We should think of our emotions the same. He was taking my pride, freedom to be me, to celebrate, to be happy, to speak my mind, to enjoy a relationship the way I wanted and I took him back everytime only to let him steal from me some more. Most of the things I loved about being in a relationship were absent from ours.
Nov 3 - 8AM (Reply to #19)
Sea
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I felt all the emotions u

I felt all the emotions u mentioned. He was faking all along and never invested. That's where all the pain is from. Hugs! Now we heal with NC. We will take back all our joy, Kindness, all!!
Nov 2 - 4PM
prettypeeved
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That's exactly what the Ice

That's exactly what the Ice Queen of Narcnia does. It's part of the reason he got that nickname too. He told me that we'd always be friends, no matter what happened, no matter how things turned out. He told me he would keep that promise to me. I took it to mean he would be there for me always, that even if things went nowhere between us, we would still meet up and have good times, and chat, and have fun, and do all the things friends do. We would support each other, nurture each other, love each other. But no, that was before I started to understand narc thinking. What he really meant was that _I_ would be the one who was expected to be there for _him_, whether he felt like bothering with me or not. Our friendship was something to pick up when he was bored, use and abuse while it suited him, then when he got bored again, to discard. Friends to him are like toys to a kid with ADD, not real people with real feelings. He will never understand this, and he will never treat any of his friends with any respect as a result. They're just diversions in his otherwise boring life.
Nov 2 - 4PM (Reply to #12)
Gaia
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prettypeeved

me too, he told me the same EXACT thing, that we would always be friends, he would always be there for me no matter what, even if we didnt work out..etc. No, he didnt mean that,it meant exactly what you said, only on HIS terms when he FEELS like it , or when he has used and abused everyone else. I am nothing, but some object in his sick world. Painful realizations, but as every day passes, I cant deny this is the reality. Hugs, SG
Nov 2 - 10PM (Reply to #13)
Sea
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He said we would be friends

He said we would be friends forever supporting each other thru life. Its just one sided me available to him and never the other way round.
Nov 3 - 7AM (Reply to #14)
Hunter
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They all say " I'll always be

They all say " I'll always be your Friend" Keeps the door open.. "with friends like that who needs enemies " Hunter
Nov 3 - 7AM (Reply to #15)
Sea
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This is how he keeps all his

This is how he keeps all his exes, friends with benefits, occassional flings etc etc around him all the time!! Plus gf and secret ones. Viola he can fill up a whole football field of women!
Nov 2 - 12PM
Hunter
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Hark Hark the typical pattern

Hark Hark the typical pattern if a Narc! Hunter
Nov 2 - 12PM
rosedewittbukater
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Hi Sumiko

I wanted to let you know I suffered this kind of silent treatment alot. xN would have friends from out of town visit two or three times a year. During these visits there was total silence. It was if I didn't even exist. Also she would travel to visit these women "friends" and while she was away - out of sight, out of mind just like you say. Total silence. She refused to reply to texts or answer my calls! Talked with therapist about this and she said this is not normal. When my friends and relatives came to visit I do not just cut off my partner and pretend as if they don't even exist! Yet if I ever traveled I was expected to keep in contact with her. What???? It is only natural to want to include them in the activies with your guests. It doesn't mean they have to be involved in every little thing you do, or that the partner must be included in every activity, but you don't shut them out!
Nov 2 - 8PM (Reply to #9)
Sea
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They need to shut us out also

They need to shut us out also due to the fact that they have alot of skeletons in their closet! They will keep us out and not interact with his circle as much as possible in case his lies got busted. That why the abnormal treatment of leaving us out. He would do the same for every of his women i can bet $ on that. Divide and rule!! They are so good at compartmentalising all aspects of their lives.
Nov 2 - 12PM
a65703
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My Ex boyfriend would do the same thing

Out of sight out of mind LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELY. When he went on vacation, he didn't contact me for a week and then gave me bullshit that his iPhone didn't have that technological capability of "roaming", ya sure he went to FL, not Zimbabwe!! Little did I know, he probably cheated with trashy girls, the kind he loves. And all the times he was hot and cold, he was probably with other girls as well. And then he would call me up and act like nothing is wrong and when I would be like UGH I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU IN A LONG TIME - he would act like I was being a bitch. I give up trying to understand them. All I know is HOT AND COLD BEHAVIOR/OUT OF SIGHT OUT OF MIND MENTALITY is a def N warning sign and trait.
Nov 2 - 8PM (Reply to #7)
Sea
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When i confront him, he would

When i confront him, he would say i am needy, clingy and smoothering him. Suffocating his freedom and personal space.
Nov 2 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
foreverfun1
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YUP MINE DID THE SAME, he

YUP MINE DID THE SAME, he would go to his mo'.s for a week at a time and every holiday for a week. i wouldn't hear one peep til he was back home .he also wouldnt tell me when he would be home. it was so hurtful and always made me feel very alone and forgotten
Nov 2 - 8PM (Reply to #6)
Sea
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Yes no excuse not to even

Yes no excuse not to even text to update. Not as if he spends 24x7 with mama dearest, more like he has totally truly forgotten about us when he doesnt need us. How abnormal? Truly disordered!
Nov 2 - 8PM (Reply to #4)
a65703
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Those periods when he disappeared hurt so much

But his complete lack of self-awareness and how it affected others was so incredulous. I thought - YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE SOME JERK/ASSHOLE/DOUCHE-BAG to just not care. This was before my Narcissist research though.....and now I know better. But I should have realized how unimportant I was in his life... When the Narcissist is away, he is usually up to NO GOOD. They ONLY come around when they want or need something. NS!
Nov 2 - 8PM (Reply to #5)
Sea
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Yes no one is ever important

Yes no one is ever important to them! He always tells me I meant alot to him. Oh ya! Meant "so much" that i am not worth even a call a text or anything when he goes on holiday with his ex. I meant nothing to him. So is his ex. Or any women. He is so worthless of our love.
Nov 2 - 6PM (Reply to #3)
foreverfun1
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oops i meant his "mom's" lol

oops i meant his "mom's" lol