Not ready

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#1 Apr 6 - 12PM
Alisa
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Not ready

So the ex-narc was just trying to call me.
I last spoke to him last Friday after which I was pretty much done with him (I posted about it here).
He left a message on my phone saying he just wanted to say hi, which makes me wonder if he's dumped New Woman already (wouldn't surprise me)

I know he'll use me again if I let him
I know he doesn't love me and hasn't loved me in the past.
I know he's not going to change

I DO NOT want to get back with him.

I know you'll say "block his number" etc but I don't want to go that route because I don't want to do anything which might make me seem psycho to him. I just want to remain firm. I don't even want to be friends with him at this point.

Yet, his call just freaked me out. I've been having my phone on mute to avoid feeling anxious, so that works. I will NOT call him back. And I just logged off the chat we're both in because he just came on (he couldn't see me though)

I am writing this down because I am determined to stay strong.

Gah. Why couldn't he be a normal guy.

Apr 6 - 6PM
Hunter
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Alisa

Why couldn't all our narc's be normal? Id love to be with him instead of here, Guess what? here we are. Sometimes life sucks. Delete,Delete,Delete. The girls are right ,Block him, Ignorance is bliss. As our friends across the Ocean say,Tell him " Piss Off" Idealk
Apr 6 - 5PM
Journey
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That will happen

If he can call, he sometimes will. I understand you not feeling ready to block him. I haven't blocked my exN and I hear from him sometimes, mostly through email. It takes longer to heal, but you will recover eventually as long as you don't ask anything of him, don't offer him anything of yourself and he doesn't ask anything of you (like wanting to be with you again). Him telling you about his current girlfriends should be off limits too... really, what's the point anymore then of not blocking him? If you appear psycho to him who cares, he IS psycho. I guess him calling just to say hi is still a hoover, but for me it has been mainly because of talking with my ex or even seeing him since I became aware of narcissism, that I've become convinced he really is a narc. If I were to base it solely upon our relationship and the way he left I don't know that I would feel as confident in my perspective. I found this board and enlightenment about narcs last October (over a year after breaking up) and it took until just a month ago to feel 99.999% sure he is one. The most recent conversations and emails have actually helped me to move on (keep in mind I am 20 months out and cried everyday up until only recently). Regardless, I think we need to do what we need to do for ourselves in our healing and sometimes that brings more pain in the short term, but it really is our choice cause no one else can heal for us. I am just freeing myself up enough in the business we shared to be able to go NC in the near future if I find I need to. Up until recently the option hasn't been available to me so I've had to get used to the contact I've had. It is pretty exclusively only about business now, but occasionally he'll ask how I am and I will politely tell him. I don't reach out to him anymore and he remains at a safe distance. I am affected less and less by seeing there is an email or phone call from him now and even find it kind of funny to postpone my reply because he has no idea I know this about him and he does get a little anxious when I am not at his beck and call the way I used to be. But he's off conquering the world and with many new women to impress, so I know he is done with me romantically. Most importantly, I have finally accepted that. Not blocking him will prolong your healing time and like slowly taking off a band aide, it will hurt more for longer and will only gradually hurt less compared to NC, so be prepared for that. You will need to stay very, very strong and sure in your mind he is toxic because you'll forget how bad it was and there is a serious danger (if you begin to doubt yourself at all), of letting him back in. That is what you look forward to in exchange for not going no contact, decide if it is really worth it to you. One day it probably won't be, but you will know when you are ready. You say you don't even want to be friends with him anymore... so if that is true, then what are you really holding onto still? It is these things we need to let go of in order to have no contact and allow the healing to progress more quickly.

Journey on...

Apr 6 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
michele115 (not verified)
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On the one hand, I get what Journey is saying

And for me, in a sense it worked BUT I had tuffer skin already. It didn't kill me to see the other woman all over him. I had my reasons for this not bothering me. BUT you look on the board and how many come back with "OMG I'm in so much pain..I just saw, heard, the narc said...." So if you are ready to be witness to his new relationship with whomever... Or hear about how happy he is with whomever.... Or are open to being his "therapist" under the guise of friendship where he might go as far as to ask you what sexual position as a woman you think is most satisfying so he can really please HER...by all means, leave the door open a bit. Everyone gets to their limit of "Pain"...for me, I had to avoid for a bit until I got stronger. Just make sure you know YOUR reasons and motivations and it's not to do with the manipulation of false hope on your end. Hugs
Apr 6 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
Journey
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I agree Michele, it is way

I agree Michele, it is way tougher. I have been very fortunate than mine has not been living near me and his hoovering has only ever been to remain friends and to continue what we've needed to do with the business. I am also fortunate he is secretive about his girlfriends and doesn't tell me anything and I learned a long time ago to stop asking, knowing the answer would either hurt me or be a lie. I don't recommend staying in contact, but sometimes the choice isn't as cut and dry, or not possible. Maybe that is why when I do have to be in contact now I use it to observe his narc-i-ness, just to remind myself that no, he's not normal and I didn't lose anything that was real. That definitely helps me feel better about where I'm at without him. Journey on...

Journey on...

Apr 6 - 3PM
michele115 (not verified)
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confused

I know you'll say "block his number" etc but I don't want to go that route because I don't want to do anything which might make me seem psycho to him. I just want to remain firm. I don't even want to be friends with him at this point. Can you explain how taking care of yourself, setting boundaries and putting some finality in this whole long drawn out lifetime drama series is "Psycho?" And no disrespect, but at the end of the day...yes, even mine was a very poorly written not even made for TV...mine was the one that got scrapped, won't even qualify for Lifetime Drama...it's all...drama when we engage in fooling ourselves. The longer you put off doing the work, the longer it will linger...we can convince ourselves pretty much of anything, but then, I don't know if we can cry foul when we get hurt after we KNOW the facts. I encourage you to try to "get ready" even if you're not because the longer you put if off the longer you leave it open to be on the end of all kinds of information you rather not hear...and that to me is Psycho...cause you know what...YOU ARE NUMBER ONE...not him - AND if it's over you'll never see him again so why care what he thinks. PSYCHO to these asshats is a crown, veil, banner, label I'd wear proudly...in fact, I'd take one of EACH! Hugs!
Apr 6 - 12PM
spinning
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Alissa,

I'm here to support you in your strength. Good job coming here and reiterating it to yourself and to us that you will not contact him. You will need your strength, though. He will keep trying for a little while...this is when you may re-think blocking or changing your number so you can get some peace, lose the anxious feeling and move on. If you're not ready, you're not ready. I understand that. Just know you're going to have to be strong and wait it out. I'm proud of you and I send you a big hug. sincerely (determined to stop) spinning

spinning

Apr 6 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Alisa
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Thank you so much!!!

Thank you so much!!!