Is this normal? (graphic)

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#1 Mar 23 - 7AM
Smarterthanever
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Is this normal? (graphic)

Does anyone else know for a fact that their narc is a compulsive masturbator? Mine travels for work every week and admitted that he is addicted to porn and masturbates every night. While we were together he (reportedly) gave up the porn and we had phone sex every night (we had a long distance relationship) which now makes me feel like I was nothing more than a glorified phone sex operator!! While we were together he literally jacked off everyday. He told me that even in his marriages he always preferred masturbation over having sex with his wife.

I should add that he also has some ED issues. We had a ton of sex when we would see eachother, but sometimes he would go limp in the middle of it (then blame me of course)

What is up with that??? I know guys do this, but it doesn't seem normal to do it so excessively.

Anyone have any insights?

The reason I ask is that I am still trying to disspell all my fantasies about him and see him for what he really is. This is a process in my recovery right now. I have managed to explain away all his faults and overlook so much that I am now trying to construct a more realistic view of him to help me get over him.

Mar 23 - 11PM
beamoflight
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I have to chime in here-- I'm

I have to chime in here-- I'm glad you made this thread... Mine (a) Masterbated all the time (b) Only wanted BJ's-- I could give him one every hour on the hour and he'd still want more (c) Did not like vaginal sex only anal sex (d) He wanted to get an extra man to play with us (e) Everytime after we had sex--his way-- he'd want a full body massage from head to toe. Back arms legs-- just me massaging him after sex for a good hour or so. I am starting to feel less into him... reading, reading, reading... it really is helping me. Thank you all. Damn, all that shit I did-- I am a f-ing catch. I think my whatever he was had me "trained" so well about what he likes that the next man I meet-- if he's a normal man, I'll probably blow his mind away. For HIM it was never enough but I think for a regular guy-- a NORMAL MAN-- ummmmm..... yeah, I'm a catch!
Mar 24 - 11AM (Reply to #22)
onwithmylife
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beamoflight

I have a feeling the majority of women here are really great catches,but these men are so mentally twisted and ill they have not a clue because as we all know, in unison, it is all about HIM and more HIM!!!you used some words that really stuck out for me, what ever you did was never enough, i said those VERY words to the Narc and he just looked ahead and not at me and never said a word.I do not think it sank into his disordered brain.
Mar 24 - 11PM (Reply to #23)
beamoflight
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It honestly does break my

It honestly does break my heart. My whatever-he-was ((sigh)) he really has potential but he'll never develope it. And yes, never enough. That actually makes me sad. I cant imagine living my life never being happy or satisfied with wthat I had. That I never had enough or good enough. Must be a hard way to live. I am so glad I AM NOT MENTALLY ILL... I MUST REMIND MYSELF HE IS SICK-- HE ACTUALLY HAS A REAL ILLNESS. HE IS MENTALLY ILL.... ..lol.. Never enough and mentally ill. Something else to add to my evening anti narc chant ..lol...
Mar 23 - 9PM
IncognitoBurrito
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Yes.

Mine had blisters on his hands, he did it so frequently.
Mar 24 - 12PM (Reply to #20)
Veronrose
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OMG! Burrito! You're

OMG! Burrito! You're kidding right!?!? LOL.
Mar 23 - 4PM
Susan32
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The Master Baiter

The ex-Psych professor is the ONLY teacher I've ever had who admitted his masturbation habit to me. He said that if I married him, I'd have to deal with the fact that the other person- was himself. The long-running gag at my college was that he was so self-enamored that he preferred a mirror to porn. He thought it was fine that Paul Wittgenstein (brother to the famous philosopher Ludwig) forced himself onto his much younger student Hilde (he was in his 40s, she was 18, also partly blind) at her first piano lesson, impregnating her. He also thought it was fine that his idol, Leo Tolstoy, forced himself sexually onto his bride Sofia in the carriage right after the wedding ceremony. He thought that since men had strong sexual appetites, women (and I think in his case, men as well) were at their mercy. The ex-P also preferred men. It was the only openly gay male professor on campus who warned me against getting sexually/romantically involved with the ex-P... because I think he had, and had gotten hurt.
Mar 23 - 12PM
Scoop
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This is such a big problem

This is such a big problem with them , if you go back a year on the board lots of the womens narc had this problem , masterbation like 2 or three times a day was not uncommon and most to porn . narc because of there disfunchion find it impossible to have intimacy with women and you cant get more intimate than sex so what you find is alot have either premature ejaculation or ED which is born out of fear of intamcy , it is also a way of with holding affection and frustrating their partner which we all know a narc gets of on other peoples fustration , it is a insidious use of passive agressive behaviour .... Im not saying theses narc do all this consiously, the fear of intimacy is so ingrained into theri personality it is a core defence mechanism that happens on an unconsious level. A normal man wouldnt dream of "wearing himself out " to porn if he had a sexual responcebilty to a partner , he would save himself for the real thing , but a narc firstly prefures porn and secondly thinks youre sexual satisfaction is way down the list of importance ... Id get very angry over this ... i did get very angry over this when i finaly found out what was at the bottom of mines ED . He use to tell me he couldnt help it , this is true but not because there was a psycial problem with him it was because he was an emotional retard .xx
Mar 23 - 12PM
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Making love... NOT!!

Mine would actually ask me if I missed making love?? WTF??? When did we ever do that?? You mean when you weren't talking about raping me and making me bleed??? He loved to talk about that twisted stuff!! And sex was ALWAYS rough and all about him!!! At this point I don't think ill ever want sex again
Mar 23 - 12PM
Alisa
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I don't know anything about

I don't know anything about this matter about mine. Actually my impression was that he was not very open to the topic (but I assume all guys masturbate, right?). He lived right across from a store selling all kinds of sex toys (you could see the entrance from his window), so we would make jokes about it and I mentioned owning some vibrating toys. My other Exes had all been very cool and encouraging about that - actually they liked if I pleasured myself (with or without them watching). The narc didn't really say much but his look told me he thought that was not the most normal thing in the world. later he said his ex wife (the only woman he deeply hates even after 20 years of them being divorced because she cheated on him) had owned a vibrator. Well, I guess that gave me an idea of how he felt about them. As far as the sex is concerned, we only did it once, so I really can't tell. I found it strange that he hadn't tried to have sex with me on more occasions
Mar 23 - 1PM (Reply to #12)
Veronrose
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Alisa

Mine is divorced too...for 12 years and he too hated his wife for cheating. I'm wondering now if he was actually "projecting", and that it was actually HIM that was cheating. I know for a fact (public records) that she was the one that initiated the divorce and custody proceedings. Not that that necessarily means anything...I guess I'm just second-guessing EVERYTHING now. Did yours ever want phone/text sex or picture swapping? Mine was BIG into that.
Mar 23 - 1PM (Reply to #13)
Alisa
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No, not at all. No phone sex

No, not at all. No phone sex whatsoever and no pictures. He was only really confident about his body. It seemed he liked to strut around naked when we went to the sauna together - we live in Europe, so nakedness is normal in a spa/sauna setting but I sometimes felt he really enjoyed showing off. About the divorce... they were both young when they got married. When I met him back then it was shortly after his divorce and mutual friends advised me NOT to talk about his ex, which made sense then. He once told me she justified cheating because he was spending too much time working and wasn't spending enough time with her. I can see that. I never met that woman but I actually believe the story pretty much
Mar 23 - 1PM (Reply to #14)
Alisa
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I forgot to add one thing:

I forgot to add one thing: when we had sex, he didn't come and at some point we just stopped because I didn't want to go on. Now I am wondering if it was maybe because of excessive masturbation or fear of intimacy.
Mar 23 - 2PM (Reply to #15)
Veronrose
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Things that make you go

Things that make you go "hmmmmm". I hate the wondering.
Mar 23 - 11AM
prettypeeved
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I don't think there was

I don't think there was anything massively unusual per se about his sexuality or masturbation habits, although I was never close enough to really find out. The few times we got to the edge of having sex (at which point I would refuse to go any further because I felt it was crossing the final line in my existing relationship) I realised pretty quickly that it was all about him. The worst was one day when we both masturbated together on a remote track on a mountainside. At least that was how it was supposed to happen. I spotted this coming (no pun intended) a mile off when he turned up with a packet of tissues in his pocket, though he immediately denied that's what they were for when I asked. Later on we did the deed...and he came within about 1 minute flat! I just couldn't believe it, I was barely even aroused. Once he'd done that he went and stood a distance away from me by the fence to "keep watch" and when I asked him to come and at least kiss me he point blank refused. Totally confused, I found the mood had completely left me, so I gave up. When we parted that day I felt close to tears, and I eventually realised it was because of the sheer rejection I felt. He really is the most selfish, repulsive little creep.
Mar 23 - 11AM
agnesmurphy17
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Pornography

I learned from the woman who replaced me . . . mine was interested in pornography. She found websites which were male-male, anal sex, just below splatter & snuff films. Violent, homo-erotic (no women) pornography. But when she confronted him, he was scared. He said it was all part of research project on "depravity." He's a university professor. Right. The Catholic college where he teaches would love research on human depravity as evidenced in violent, homo-sexual pornography. Especially where his speciality is NOT modern studies. I never snooped so I had no idea. He was always "working late" preparing his classes in his home office when I was asleep. My replacement told me also that he had handcuffs, and all sorts of bondage stuff. I never knew. I was married to him for 2 1/2 years. But when I left he was getting into some sexual demands which were making me feel like an object. And the abuse was intensifying. I felt he was trying to get me to submit to his sexual demands out of fear. But he was too much of a bully & I ran away. Uh. He had ED. My fault--or got aggressive with me saying that I thought he was not hard enough or big enough (when I never said anything, too scared of him). Was over all a very boring & mechanical lover. Really had not too much concern for me. And, he wanted a continual monologue of my talking about what HE was doing & how much I liked it. He wanted me to say: "I have need of your great, big huge cock." And ladies, he was a shrimp. But, I had to say that line in a foreign language, his language. And also say what he was doing & how I liked it. I said, If I talk all the time then I cannot concentrate. He didn't care. It was ALL ABOUT HIM. I get so upset thinking about all of these things. But I think it shows how they tailor themselves in the beginning to the woman. SOmehow he knew that I would not tolerate his more kinky bondage interests. But, somehow, he was more able to display more this to the woman who replaced me because she was more open minded than I. Whatever.
Mar 23 - 11AM
mystwoman
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Xnh loved sex (he actually

Xnh loved sex (he actually referred to himself as a "slut"). He, also, threw it into my face, after he D&D'd, that I had "driven" him to online porn. Yeah, right. I told him, "Take responsibility for your own actions there, Buck-o. I'm not responsible for your choices there." It certainly did explain all of those viruses he kept getting on his computer though. lol. In addition, xnh masturbated a lot. I'm guessing that he did a lot more than I ever really want to know about. He used to refer to it as "going to visit his other girlfriend, Rosie Palm".

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Mar 23 - 8AM
Veronrose
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Mine too. He loved porn. I

Mine too. He loved porn. I believe he preferred auto-erotica, phone sex and "sexting" to actual sex. He would send me pics with his hand on himself and would request pictures of me doing the same. One of the major things I have to get over is the embarrassment of having had participated in all that. I did anything I could for his attention. Sickening.
Mar 24 - 11PM (Reply to #7)
beamoflight
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Mine did that too. like to

Mine did that too. like to show me his "equipment" in photos or over his webcam when I could not get out. I have to say though, I did do some crazy things with him but I kinda liked it. Maybe you'd feel better if you thought of it as expermenting rather than embarassing participation? i dunno. I just feel badly you feel that way. These guys are something beyond words-- mine was anyway. good luck :)
Mar 23 - 7AM
michele115 (not verified)
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Maybe there is a component

of sex addiction in there...not to clear on that one you'd have to research it to see if the shoe fits...but if there is a history of other addictions I will say they're known to substitute alot...this won't kill him just give him a really raw *wanker*? can I say that here? I need to clairfy that thought...no it won't kill him in that they justify anything other than a chemical if okay...follow me? So it could still kill him AIDS and Hep C are deadly and when they are sex addicts, they really don't care who they screw cause it's a DRUG now it's not sex...so it could be not only a ton of women, could be men to because again...they're all objects... it kinda gets reduced to "a hole is a hole" so to speak..not far off from being a Narc I might add...and uh...finding a lot of narcs do have addiction problems... BUT again, you know the specifics, I can only throw out what i know... I'd run if you haven't already
Mar 23 - 7AM (Reply to #2)
WiserNow30
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Somatic N

I discovered that my Ex N was addicted to porn, masturbation, online sex, chat rooms, you name it. When I say porn, I mean the most vile, degrading stuff you can imagine. Women having sex with animals, women being beaten, women being thrown up on or cum on. Obviously he hates women. I know all of this because he forgot to clear his computer browing history one day. We had sex constantly so it's not like he was in need. He always pushed me to go further in the bedroom and wanted me to dress up in lingerie all the time. I was basically a human blow up doll to him. During his "moment of clarity" when I ended things, he admitted to all of this and said he watches porn daily. That probably explains why he works from home. I've read that sex is the only time that they can feel anything so they become addicted to it. To them, sex is as close to love as they will ever get.
Mar 24 - 11PM (Reply to #5)
beamoflight
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ugh, i never even heard of

ugh, i never even heard of that vomit thing. ewwww... yeah, he hates girls alright. ugh! gross!
Mar 23 - 11AM (Reply to #4)
onwithmylife
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Wisernow30

mine was older in his his 60's, no porn and I don't think unusual masturbation, but loved sex, like myself, only for him I was nothing more than sex object and a good whore and you are right, sex is as close to love as he and they will ever get.
Mar 23 - 7AM (Reply to #3)
B
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Same here. N was addicted to

Same here. N was addicted to masturbating for sure. There were many times he couldn't "finish" when we were together and he would tell me it was because he had jerked off too many times that day. He also liked any kind of porn that was very degrading to women and would make comments about wanting to do disgusting things to me.