On Narcs & Love....

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#1 Apr 25 - 12PM
momoya
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On Narcs & Love....

There has been some discussion on NArc's and love and some think that N's do genuinely feel love. However, I disagree.

I think it matters how disordered they are and who knows how to gauge that acurately? But depending on how bad the NPD is I don't think they do feel love like the kind of love that we know and we feel.

I think they confuse this 'thing called love' as infatuation which makes them high. They get such intense surges of adrelnaline, dopamine all those good feeling brain chemicals they are so happy and excited by us and they can't seem to get enough of us. They become addicted to those intense and good feelings to make up for the apparent deep depression / despair they feel when alone.

They have heighented senses and and they get off and become addicted and starts a life pattern that produces these strong affects in person after person over and over. This I think is the reason they can so easily switch off and dissapear and jump into another relationship with such ease.

Had they been able to really feel true love, experienced what we felt, even the pain of loving, I really think it would stop them from repeating this NPD pattern over and over. But it doesn't stop them. Because its never REAL and LASTING.

This love lesson is learned by our 1st primary care giver - our mothers. So if N never felt love as a child and never felt it from Mother, N most likely will struggle with this connection unless N gets help. Also if N's Mother never had appropriate boundaries for the N Child - that child grows up respecting no one's boundaries and has none (they have no conscience.)

And, they don't seem to ever get help from what I have read. (but I am still reading..)

Another thing is the apparent abusive traits of the N that slowly emerge or happen over night. They Jekyll/Hyde character. The punisher. The verbal abuse sinks down to a level that we can't quite believe that they are really themselves when behaving so horribly, and we make accuses for them not believing this is the REAL them , as they worked so hard to make us believe and fall for the good guy. We have a hard time letting go fo that good guy image and act, and yet they turn on us so viciously, the treatment so horrible, or the beatings so brutal or the betrayal...this happens over and again. They are not accountable for their actions and it's always our fault, our doing. They never have a learning / changing experience it seems.

This is most certainly Not Love, but the disordered love of a Narc. Maybe as we become more in tune with what we define as love - we find it more clearly to descern when it is not.

Again this is just from my personal perspective and certainly doesn't account for anyone else.

Apr 25 - 3PM
agitating prop
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exactly right

My narc would save brief messages I left on his answering machine and play them over and over again. This kind of addiction went on for 18 months. So, indeed, they are hyper infatuated, and when it wears off, there's a void. They react to the biochemical change by getting angry or getting kinky, I guess, though I never experienced the kinks. Rather than understanding that the changes are in their hormonal balance, they get pissed at US and move on, or take time off and come back for another fix later. We're like drugs for them, for sure. I think my narc spent so much time obsessing about me that it was similar to alcohol poisoning or being forced to smoke a whole carton of cigarettes overnight. He pigged out on me, big time and so when he quit me, he quit thoroughly. Good!
Apr 25 - 2PM
Bitter-sweet
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great post

This is a very accurate portrayal of my N. He openly said that any contact- getting a text, hearing my voice etc gave him a 'rush'. He explicitly used the language of addiction to describe how much he craved the contact. If he didn't know he was an N, looking back, he spells it out in all his texts and emails. This is an excellent post and a good reminder- I don't just want to be someone's temporary fix.
Apr 25 - 3PM (Reply to #5)
Susan32
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Replacing one addiction with another...

The ex-Psych prof would say how he loved the sound of my voice. He used his claims to be a philosopher as filler. The ex-P would use the language of addiction. My junior year, he got fat from junk food. I was dating, and he was stuffing his face. I think Little Debbie was his serious girlfriend, not the one in LA, IMHO. During the final D&D, he was getting drunk. Around students. He had an off-campus class whose soul purpose was drinking wine. The rumors of his alcoholism were validated, they surfaced, and with a vengeance. There were times when he saw me as much as his addiction as his alcohol.
Apr 25 - 2PM (Reply to #4)
momoya
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Bitter

the EXN said to me that I made him high. I didn't know about Narcs at that time. But hearing that now, gives me chills.

momoya

Apr 25 - 1PM
Steph
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momoya

AWESOME post!!!!!!! I gotta say it again, AWESOME post! What you wrote, IMO, is so unbelievable accurate! Like Hunter said, you "hit the nail on the head" Thanks for posting! xoxo
Apr 25 - 1PM
Hunter
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I think you hit the nail on

I think you hit the nail on the head! Hunter