My coping mechanisms aren't good

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#1 Nov 23 - 10AM
Leah
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My coping mechanisms aren't good

Last night after I saw him on skype, I picked almost all my cuticles...don't have to tell you what that looks/feels like.

Any suggestions for better coping?

I'm so nauseous. Not hungry today.
Thinking he's already romancing another woman makes me sick.
He threw me away like those 6 months were nothing.
I'm rageful. So angry.

I wish I were more emotionally stable right now, but I'm a mess.

-Leah

Nov 23 - 11PM
apple
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he=pain

Say to yourself over and over again... "I deserve better than this." Say it over and over and over and over and over and over. I know it probably sounds stupid but it helps me. Also, my therapist told me something that is hard for me to explain but emotions are just emotions. It's NOT something you can touch and see. Try and think about him being like a hot stove. It's gonna burn when you touch it. You wouldn't put your hand in a lions cage, would you? Try to retrain your brain. You DO deserve than this!!!
Nov 23 - 11PM (Reply to #25)
Leah
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My new mantra - I deserve better than this

Thanks for that, cherryblossom. I'm still in shock at the D&D. So this new mantra will help me through this. Retrain my brain...I'm gonna work hard at that. Thanks so much for the supportive words. -Leah
Nov 23 - 7PM
Tinker
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Leah

have i ever been where you are - last summer. and when people told me it would get better, i didn't believe it. i spent 3 weeks in bed, felt sick, couldn't eat (i've since gained back 10 lbs which i needed) and can think of something else besides him. it's not great yet, but it'w better and will get better for you. the best advice i had (today) was that my reaction to what the N pulled was perfectly normal. as bad as it feels, it's what makes you a real feeling wonderful human being. i know you're angry, don't turn it on yourself. slowly, be good to yourself, find things that you enjoy. be with people who are good to you and understand. get some short term therapy, try antidepressants, anti anxiety meds short term, whatever makes you ok and get thru this. hugs..........marissa
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #23)
Leah
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Yes, got into therapy 2 weeks ago...thank god

Hi Marissa, thanks. I got back into therapy a few weeks ago. Within days after the breakup I could tell that it was no ordinary breakup and I was severely depressed, but it took me over 5 or 6 weeks to get a good & sliding-scale therapist. The one I have now is awesome. I wish I would've found him sooner. I'm holding off on meds 4 now, but have used them in the past. So my reaction is totally normal...and that makes me a normal person, as opposed to a PD'd person....do I have that right? Ok, I'll try to let that sink in. Sometimes I still feel crazy. -Leah
Nov 23 - 2PM
Briseis
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You experienced a

You experienced a significant trauma. Most of us have PTSD symptoms for a while, especially the gals who get D&D'd (seemingly out of the blue). Your description of the first time you had sex with him . . . OMG, it was so much like mine w/the Narc. He was a "christian" and refused to fornicate with me, so we dated for a long time, and got "married" (long story) and THEN had sex. And the sex was controlling, stiff, and he even ordered me around (Legs up!!) like I he was an animal trainer. Then he blamed me for being anxious and "cold" (no shit sherlock) and refused to have sex with me at all until I got over it (a week after we were "married"). All that, and you'd think you'd fall on your face and thank God that the Narc D&D'd you. But that's not the way it works. There is a thing that happens within human beings that causes bonding to grow stronger when there is trauma involved. Especially when the traumatizer is also your lover. It can and will happen to ANYONE. It's the way we are made. It's a very interesting topic. Google "trauma bonding" and "Stockholm Syndrome" for more info on that. Your pain, "poor coping skills", all of it makes perfect sense to me, and is perfectly par for the course. YES you need to keep working hard, "getting it out" is the first step in Lisa's new book. Trauma builds up terribly anxiety and fear, and each time you "get it out" you release the pain and pressure a bit more. Each time you FEEL the pain, and work with it by writing it out or getting support, it carries that pain away and over time, it will gradually lessen. One day you'll wake up and notice you have felt pretty good for a few days, and didn't even realize it :) You sure thought a lot LESS about that useless assclown in the last few days. Wow :D Keep doing what you are doing. Nothing you've said so far is unusual or weird for what we've all gone through :)
Nov 23 - 7PM (Reply to #19)
Leah
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Yes, I've been having PTSD symptoms for weeks

I need the reminder that it's a trauma. Thanks, Briseis. That's how I feel - traumatized. While that was the 1st time we had sex, we were intimate (in other ways) when he visited me three months earlier, which was right after he found out he had herpes. I remember the first time he 'took care of me' and then afterwards, said to me, 'Well, I need a release too!,' in an angry tone. I said, 'I know, I was just thinking about that.' We hadn't discussed what we were comfortable doing in light of his herpes diagnosis, so of course I didn't jump to touch him. So then he said, 'Well, you should you say something!' I was scared and confused. No one had ever spoken to me like that during lovemaking. And it was so different than how he behaved during the rest of his visit. I couldn't reconcile the 2 sides of him, so since the weird/angry guy only made an appearance a few times during that visit, I disregarded it & didn't say anything about it. One of my friends told me that if a man had spoken to her like that the 1st time they were intimate, she would've gotten out of bed & asked him to leave, for good. I know why I didn't say anything - because I grew up in a f*kd up home with a BPD mom and couldn't ever say anything. So here I was with this crazy, unpredictably abusive guy...and I tolerated the insane moments to live for the good moments. I'm still saddened that I didn't stand up for myself and my boundaries. That was one of MANY moments that I just let him abuse me, or subtly belittle me, or control me...and I didn't say one thing to let him know my boundaries had been crossed. It was like I had no boundaries. I literally invited him in to invade my body & psyche. I'm shaking my head as I write this. I'm not happy with how I became submissive and silent about mistreatment. I sacrificed myself to have more 'good times,' at the cost of my self-esteem and mental health. Now I'm crying. I can't believe I stayed with someone who treated me like that. It's very sad that I opened myself up to abuse. I behaved with him the same way I did with my mom as a kid; as a kid I took whatever came to me, because I didn't have the power to do anything different. My brain was in childhood survival mode when I was in relationship with him. It's like I met him and all my co-dependency went into high gear. Ok, I only cried for a bit. I'm okay. I'm just very, very sad. Really, really horrified that I put myself through this. And to see that he was on skype last night (I didn't talk to him, I just got notified by skype that he was online)...probably talking to another woman. It's still making my stomach turn tonight, 24 hours later. I deleted his skype address from my account, so now I won't know what he's doing, thank god. -Leah
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #20)
Briseis
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(((((Leah))))))

Wow. Such a good job making the connections :) And that sadness is exactly right. There is so much hurt :( . I had a Narc for a father, and know what you mean when you say you had to take whatever came at you. Children are the ultimate victims. They have no choices but the ones their parents make for them. I learned to be bright and funny and to vaporize at the first sign something was going down with my father. Secretly I loathed him. That learned response to being abused followed me into adulthood. I had to be perfectly smart, perfectly "together" and when someone got angry or abusive, I froze like a little bunny. My natural temperament is much more "assertive" and it came out as I was with the exNarc for seven years. I stopped freezing and cowering after about two years. Went through a passive aggressive phase (and became an alcoholic) and then stopped drinking and started actively coping. That's when things really went to Hell. They give us the impression we are so special. They speak right to that deepest need that we all have. Those of us with PD parents didn't have that need met as children, so we are even more vulnerable. Even though our brains can see clearly that this Narc ditching us is the best thing that could have happened, that little child inside dies a little bit more to know he is giving that "special" to some other woman. We weren't special at all. It re-wounds us right in the center of our being. Please do a lot of crying. You are healing BOTH wounds, now. As an adult, with the help of therapy, support groups like us :) and sometimes medication (for depression/anxiety) the healing is GOING to happen :). You'll cry for the childhood losses as well as the recent ones. If it seems like you are crying and grieving inordinately over a stupid Narc, well, now you know why :) Let 'er rip :) This is how it was for me, anyway.
Nov 23 - 11PM (Reply to #21)
Leah
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Briseis, thanks for the hugs & insight

I think you hit the nail on the head - I'm feeling D&D'd now & that touches on the unhealed wound of being D&D'd every day/week of my life from birth to age 23ish by my BPD mom. On a spiritual level, I feel like Spirit/God/the universe had me go through this to remember what my childhood was like every day. To remember why every day of my life I've walked in my skin filled with self-doubt, low self-esteem and anxiety. I started walking on eggshells when I was a toddler. This recent N relationship was a touchstone for an older wound. I would've walked away from ex-N within the 1st two months (or sooner!) if I had had the boundaries and instincts of a person who grew up in a non-PD-parent home. So a lot of crying is what it's been...and what it will be...until I get it out. Thanks for letting me know that I'm not imagining all of this. I feel a little less crazy. Big hug of thanks. -Leah
Nov 23 - 2PM
Hunter
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Same Story

Your story is similiar to mine. I'm not over him by any means. I miss him ( the good him) every day. It's difficult to understand. I met him and was in love with him 20 yrs ago. Our breakup was due to odd circumstances. I always thought he loved me as I him. I now know the truth and what he is. I guess I've had the experience 2 times. He is such a sick man. I am a strong ,attractive, successful women. I will not allow the abuse to continue. You will get there. You are dealing with a dead soul. The next women is just another victim. Pity them. Once the get you where the want you they turn into to the devil. The vicious back lash is really how they feel about themselves. "yuck" keep busy, this too shall pass. Hugs
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #17)
Leah
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Yes, I guess they are dead souls

Hi idealk. I do sometimes miss the nice guy. At other times I'm horrified by the split personality he has. The guy from the 1st 3 months of our relationship wouldn't have behaved the way the 'other guy' did. I still can't reconcile the two. Sometimes it gives me a panic attack or I want to cry while I'm teaching. It's awful. Sad to hear you're in the same space. Today I handed in my lease termination letter - I'll be moving out to his area on Jan. 1st. I will pray to every deity that I don't run into him for a long, long time. I need to build up strength to deal with that. I'm not ready now. Hope you feel better. Thanks for your support! -Leah
Nov 23 - 12PM
Leah
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Clarification - I saw he was on skype, didn't speak with him

Sorry for the confusion. I forgot to delete his account from my contact list, andwhile I was posting on this site, my desktop 'told' me he was online...toally creeped me out. Deleted his account once I figured out how it happened. I've been NC since he discarded me 10 weeks ago. Have to run back to work (teacher). Thanks for your support - will read msgs when I get home from work! Much gratitude, Leah
Nov 23 - 11AM
blueeyes
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Read

Read about the make up of his disorder. It can reassure you that it's not anything do did or didn't do. Read, google, and post all your questions here.
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #12)
Leah
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Yes, I'm reading NPD info like it's water

Thanks blueeyes. I bought these 2 books: Why Does He Do That? : Inside the minds of Angry & Controlling Men & Narcissistic Lovers: How to Cope, Recover & Move On The 2nd book is more helpful, since it's more focused. The other book is helpful, but it takes some different stances that don't apply to NPD relationships. Yes, the info is helping. So I'll keep reading until it sinks into my thick skull. And I'm gonna keep posting like crazy. I feel like I need to right now. I've noticed that when I have too much time to let the thoughts about ex-N stew in my head...I either get aninstamt panic attack or slide into hours of depression... I'm not able to manage my emotions right now, even though Sunday marked 10 weeks. It's unbelieveable. In the last 15 years of my life, I've never lived through something this traumatizing. Maybe 20 years. Thanks for your support, it really helps! -Leah
Nov 23 - 8PM (Reply to #13)
blueeyes
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narcisstic lovers

Is sitting ona shelf brand new. I couldn't relate. I knew the facts. I needed something more. Post any question because that will point you to recovery.
Nov 24 - 12AM (Reply to #14)
Leah
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Thanks - I will post some questions tomorrow

Hi blueeyes. Tomorrow after work I'm actually going to post a question or two...here are previews... - My ex-N was so emotionally & psychologically aware & supportive in the beginning...even sometimes in the middle & end. How he can be like that, but then be so unconscious as to fall prey to his D&D phasing of his partners? - Three days pre-breakup he sent me a 'flowers' e-mail...it was so sweet. 2 days later I send him and e-mail telling him how much I care for him. Next day he breaks up with me. What's up with that? In the last 3 weeks of the relationship, he had 3 or 4 different attitudes towards me & they kept shifting - why? Thanks again for being so supportive, blueeyes. -Leah
Nov 23 - 11AM
Hunter
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Skype

Why are you onSkype with him? Every time you break NC you go back to ground Zero. I know itshard. Really Hard. But the only way to get better is to stay away. Read all you can. Post your feelings here.it hurts like he'll and my fingers are hurt too. The only peace you will have is if you " Stay away" do it for yourself. Have you read " When you love a man who loves himself"W Keith Campbell. Be strong.
Nov 23 - 1PM (Reply to #9)
Leah
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I mis-wrote > I was notified by my desktop that he was on Skype

I didn't speak with him. Sorry for the confusion, idealk. It just made me nauseous to know he was online. He had bought that webcam to skype w/ me long distance. Now he's charming someone new, less than 3 months after he threw me away. I had forgotten that his account ID was still in my contacts list. I cried a lot last night and feel really angry. My gut's in knots. Thanks for your support. -Leah
Nov 24 - 12AM (Reply to #10)
betty2020
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Please delete him from all

Please delete him from all your contact lists hon. Email, skype, google, yahoo etc.... Get that computer squeaky Narc clean. xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Nov 23 - 11AM
michele115 (not verified)
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Leah

Any suggestions for better coping? I'm so nauseous. Not hungry today. Thinking he's already romancing another woman makes me sick. He threw me away like those 6 months were nothing. I'm rageful. So angry. I wish I were more emotionally stable right now, but I'm a mess. I've been through the not eating, not hungry stage, I think we all have. In terms of better coping there is no magic wand I can wave. It takes time. First, if you really know what NPD is all about, you will thank your lucky stars you did not get sucked in longer. I think I understand you were with him for six months - while it is an investment of time, and feelings were involved and with these disordered individuals, it can feel like a lifetime - keep uppermost in your mind - life does not stop... There is a time for mourning, crying getting angry; however, these asshats are as big as WE want to make them in our mind. In terms of coping, the best way you can, get out there make friends, spend time with family - don't make this dude your whole world - he's not even in it anymore. Once I got hep to how sick he is, the thought of another woman didn't faze me because I could see that this is just how he operates, he's a predator and any partner will not be a partner, just a victim - very much like you and I are now...SO what exactly is being missed here? Our feelings, the illusion WE created - work on creating things that are reality based. Block - delete and don't expect or anticipate his apology, remorse any of it - it will all be a fraud anyway. I WISH I was only invested six months - I had four years and some have spent decades. Chin up - stay strong, and keep moving forward like Betty says, seriously, when you get past a certain point, things really do come into perspective. You need to feel what you feel, get it out but then at a certain point you need to discipline YOURSELF to make things happen for yourself and take the focus off of him. Good Luck All the best... You really came out a winner I hope you know that - you were saved...from what could be a very painful, unhappy life if you stayed STUCK... You escaped, you got away...
Nov 23 - 1PM (Reply to #7)
Leah
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Thanks, I hear you

Michele, thanks. Yes, I need to get to that stage when this isn't preoccupying me anymore. When is that gonna happen... I am moving in Jan. & looking for work...the big transition will distact me. But I'll be in his area and I don't think he knows I'm moving there. I'm worried I'll bump into him and it'll be really upsetting. Because my mom has BPD and I'm relatively estranged from my parents, my sister is my only family, and she's in law school, so she's not free to talk for several more weeks. I'm blessed that I have a large circle of friends and a spiritual community, and they've all been supplements to my once-a-week visit to my therapist! They know the once-a-week visit isn't enough for me right now, and they've all stepped up, at all hours of the day, to listen. They're awesome. What I can't get over is how he threw me away, when we had spoken almost every night for over 5 months! He claimed it was because I sent him an e-mail the day before that had lots of feelings that he didn't have time to deal with, and that his feelings for me weren't as strong as my feelings for him (total reversal). He yelled at me about an insecure habit of mine (sometimes I say, 'Are you sure?'). [now I'm super insecure about that habit and get nervous every time I do it] The man on that breakup call was a completely a different man from the one I met 6 months before. It was traumatizing. I had just visited him 4 weeks before the breakup, spending about $1000 on the trip. We had sex (my choice) even though he had found out 3 months before that he had herpes...because I THOUGHT THAT WE LOVED EACH OTHER and that we were working towards a long term relationship; why else would I have taken that risk? And during sex, he was strange (no emotion) and controlling/domineering...I felt raped at the time, but stuffed it & got submissive & did what he asked, because that's my old pattern from childhood. And I was confused. It was only our 2nd week in-person together, and in the 3 months since he had visited me, everything had changed. I was so confused by his behavior when I visited him. I can't seem to get over the shock. All that time & investment meant nothing to him. I understand NPD. But as a huma with a full range of emotions, I can't understand how the NPD does this with no remorse nor acknowledgment. It completely horrifies me. While I agree that I'm lucky to have dodged a bullet...on some deep level in my psyche...beyond my intellect...there's a small voice in my head that keeps asking: -What if I had called him on his behaviors, instead of ignoring them or pushing them aside? -If I had pointed out his behaviors to him, would he have changed? -Did my co-dependent reactions aggravate his behavior? Would he have improved if I had stood more in my power? Did my submission or flat out denial of abuse acutally incite him more to D&D me? *sigh* Sorry for the long reply, Michele. I'm still spinning. -Leah
Nov 23 - 11AM (Reply to #6)
Hunter
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Excellent Advice.

Excellent Advice.
Nov 23 - 11AM (Reply to #4)
blueeyes
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Michelle-

"You escaped, you got away..." I feel she is lucky too. Leah, you dodged a bullet babe. I know it doesn't hurt any less but I am glad you didn't marry him. Ya know?
Nov 23 - 1PM (Reply to #5)
Leah
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Thanks, blueeyes

...but see what I wrote above, in reply to Michele. I'm still in shock. Intellectually I get it all. Emotionally, my heart's still on the floor. So I hear what you're saying. I know eventually I'll be grateful. And I don't want him back. But how he did this & the way things went...I'm still completely floored. *I take a deep breath* Thanks for your support! -Leah
Nov 23 - 11AM
Jean
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sorry you are hurting

I broke down at work yesterday and cried (kept it to myself, though). I came home and cried and raged and my husband listened with sympathy. Thank god I have a caring and understanding husband. He just emphasized that I am a good person, am not crazy, and just need to work through it. I cant imagine trying to do this alone. I think it is really important to find people who don't take the "blame the victim" approach. I am trying to stay away from anyone who, upon hearing my story or knowing vaguely what happened, say things that indicate: 1) pity 2) blaming/shaming 3) denial of what he did 4) impatient or "just get over it" 5) minimizing It seems like it's pretty normal human behavior that if you haven't been on the other end of an NS or sociopathic relationship, you just cannot believe it can happen. Why would anyone want to believe this, unless they were forced to? I don't want to believe there is evil in the world walking around in the guise of a successful professional. I really don't. But I believe it now.
Nov 23 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Leah
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I also now avoid people who don't understand

what I'm going through. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one who does that, Jean. : ) -Leah