More info on Hoovering

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#1 Sep 9 - 7PM
needing2know
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More info on Hoovering

Here is a link on Hoovering:
http://www.outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/Hoovering.html

Maybe it will help to understand why this could happen

Sep 9 - 8PM
Jannie In the Sun
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Great Info

Thanks for the post and the website. This can help in confusing times with any manipulative person, not just the personality disordered.
Sep 9 - 8PM
Sunafterrain
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Needing

I know you mean well, but this article is incredibly dangerous information for those getting over the disordered one for a couple of reasons: 1. they do NOTHING sincerely and 2. Don't "WAIT A YEAR" to see if things improve. This might apply to a NON personality disordered individual who works MONTHS of therapy and SHOWS change and EARNS trust back. This can NEVER EVER EVER happen with a personality disordered individual and there is NOTHING sincere about a hoover at all.
Sep 9 - 9PM (Reply to #3)
needing2know
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•Remember that mood swings

•Remember that mood swings are a normal part of a number of personality disorders and that what goes up must come down. •Accept that highs and lows are a part of a everyone's emotional life and that, for a personality-disordered person, those may be more intense and lead swings in behavior. •Maintain all your healthy lifestyle habits and relationships with others. •Take the long-term view. Wait a year. •Get yourself off the roller coaster. Position yourself so that your safety and happiness isn't dependent on a personality-disordered person's mood. That's why it is telling you to NOT change YOUR behaviour, we all know they DON'T and WON'T change the way they are, to me this article says this is what they "try" to do, so the year thing is as we all know a bunch of crap , when they come back they Always start to show their true colors after a few days or weeks. We all know they can't be better after a year. this is just to let people know how they operate. I think it also tells us to "take a Year" fo our selves to heal! not give them a year to change , because like you said they don't. And I think all of us here know they can't change.
Sep 9 - 9PM (Reply to #4)
Layla
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I do agree with this post.

.....and I feel that "Out of the FOG" is a good, reputable site with valuable information for victims/survivors of those exposed to these PD abusers. This article also clearly states/warns: "Hoovering is one of the key components of an Abusive Cycle. Without Hoovering, most abusers would be living alone. Hoovering is the "plus side" to many abusers that makes an abusive relationship seem worthwhile to many victims and sustains abusive relationships over the long term. Hoovering requires two willing parties to be effective - the person doing the hoovering and the person who allows themselves to be abused and then drawn back in - who is willing to sacrifice their own personal boundaries for the sake of preserving the relationship or keeping the peace. Unfortunately the peace is typically short lived. " (Out of the FOG website) love~ Layla
Sep 9 - 10PM (Reply to #5)
needing2know
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layla

I agree with you, everytime I search for info that I think should be shared to help others I to post something, I think the more info we can get the better about everything these disorders are capable of.
Sep 9 - 10PM (Reply to #6)
Layla
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Some of my favorite articles and sites........

....have been found by people on this forum! hahaa! One of the moderaters (Scoop) always finds some of the best stuff....look for her posts! I almost always learn something new..... : )
Sep 10 - 10AM (Reply to #7)
Sunafterrain
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Layla

True, I found out a lot about Thomas Sheridan from her links. Fantastic!
Sep 10 - 11AM (Reply to #8)
Layla
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YES!

I found him because of Scoop too! Also, she had some really great "dark souls" tapes from youtube......here is one she posted I really liked...the electronic voices are kind of comical but that is kind of what makes it entertaining! I hope you like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXEgzhMKGeg
Sep 12 - 12AM (Reply to #9)
rosedewittbukater
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Great video

Love Sarah Strudgwick. Thanks for posting. Funny though every time they said the word Ego it sounded like "eggo" the waffle. And is that broccoli on his suit? lol
Sep 9 - 8PM
Hope
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Thanks...

good info...