might just of got the info i need to move on

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#1 Apr 23 - 1AM
rainbow1
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might just of got the info i need to move on

So I just heard that back in December when the N tracked down my new number and also had a gf he apparently got a girl pregnant. This was a girl that the N said was just a friend when he got a late night text from when we were together that said "are you spending the night tonight baby?".

I heard he got her pregnant but wants nothing to do with her and the baby. This makes me sick! A few weeks ago he told me he hopes he gets me pregnant so I will be with him. He also told me and his family he wouldn't mind having s baby right noe. He's always told me and his family he wants one. He is so good with kids so why wouldn't he help her?!

I want to tell his family and friends what a piece of shit he is! He told her if she tells he will kill her! I feel so sick right now :(

Apr 26 - 10AM
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UPDATE

So I guess I heard wrong... The girl did not get pregnant in December, SHE HAD THE BABY IN DECEMEBER!!!! Which means he would of cheated on me. When I questioned him this is what happened, N- "Shut the fuck up. That damn kid isnt mine and she knows it!" Me- "Ok well even if the kid isnt yours it still means you would of had to cheat on me for her to even think it could be yours." N- "bullshit" Me- " I have done the math, we were together. If you slept with her then you cheated. I am done dealing with this shit." Then I blocked him from texting without waiting around for his response. I am sure that he either text trying to convince me he didnt cheat or raging at me for questioning him. I really thought he would call and explain himself when he didnt get a response back, but he didnt. I am sure I will hear from him in a few days. Even if he is done with me for now he never wants me to think badly of him.. He has told me that he cheated on every girl but me. And I have always believed him. When I told a few mutual friends about what I found out each one of them said that the girl must just be crazy because they all know he didnt cheat on me. I just ignored them. I want to think he cheated. It makes it easier for me to be angry.

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Apr 26 - 10AM (Reply to #18)
cluelessuntilnow
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Trust your instincts. The

Trust your instincts. The girl is not crazy. The child is most likely his. Read my story it is posted and you will see why I say this. My x wanted nothing to do with our baby and walked out completely and denied it until I made him take a DNA test and of course it was his.I read this and it makes me sick. Stay as far away from him as possible. My x did not even tell his own father about our son until our son was in high school. These are very bad men.
Apr 26 - 4PM (Reply to #19)
rainbow1
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All I want to di is call him

All I want to di is call him and ask questions! But I know it will do no good

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"dont let yesterday take up too much of today"

Apr 26 - 4PM (Reply to #20)
cluelessuntilnow
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rainbow1

It won't and I would have blocked him just for telling you to "shut the F*ck up". What a piece of crap. I am sorry it is too easy to determine paternity these days so trying to pin it on someone who is not the father is not what most women would do. He is most likely the father. A mature man would sit down with the woman and take a test and rule it out or take responsibilty however the test results came out. Not ignore the woman and the child. Heartless and brutal.
Apr 26 - 10AM (Reply to #17)
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Rainbow

This is a crazy man! You are swimming in a riptide. I hope you keep your word and swim across the shore and land safly on shore. Hunter
Apr 23 - 10AM
rainbow1
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Please remind me

He of course is telling me that it is not his! Dont let me believe him please. Tell me that he is lying. I know deep down he is but his words sound better than knowing the truth. I am sick. I get strong then weak. I cant think straight.

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Apr 26 - 10AM (Reply to #15)
cluelessuntilnow
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Rainbow

My x told his now wife for the first year they were together that our son was not his. He is lying. Most likely he had a full blown relationship with this woman. My x wanted to marry me and then when I got pregnant abandoned me and started dating his now wife when I was 5 months pregnant. Trust me he is lying.Save yourself. It is now 20 years down the line, cheats on his wife all the time and has tried to cheat with me (the mother of his child, whom he denied was his ) while still married to her. Run...where there is smoke, there is definitely fire and you will get burned.
Apr 23 - 11AM (Reply to #14)
Scoop
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It was him and he is the

It was him and he is the father , i think this because the narc bends over backwards to secure his supply and he is not one to share a woman with anyone else that is his property , so its unlikely she is the type to sleep around ,a narc dosnt like that and youre narc is far to good at the brainwashing tatics ... i hate to say it but he is propbably stinging her along in the same way he is you , and i wouldnt be suprised is there are several woman he is doing that to . Rainbow you have gone NC before and even started dating again so you can do it again .. keep strong ... you have had a terrible shock .. big hugs .. xx
Apr 23 - 6AM
helldweller
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rainbow

This one's familiar. While he was parading around his four year old foster child, who had his own bedroom and bathroom in the new house, I was trying to figure out where I was going to put HIS OWN baby, with which I was pregnant, in my tiny apartment next door. Thank God in Heaven I miscarried. I fully believe that he would not even have told anyone that he had a child of his own, that the baby would be sleeping in a crib in my kitchen right now, and that he would be telling people I was "nuts" when I claimed the baby was his. The worst part? He TRIED to get me pregnant. The second-to-worst part? I told his brothers and his brother's girlfriend about it and none of them were fazed by it. None of them saw any connection between the foster child and his own real child--or the hypocrisy or the whole situation. He actually at one point asked me if I was going to abort. "What????????" I asked, stupidly. "You WANTED me to have a baby!!!!!" "Do what you want," he said, "You will anyway. I have no say." I have never been so confused and dumbfounded in my life. The maniuplation really boggles the mind. It still really pisses me off to see him with the foster child, who is almost seven now. Only I know what a complete J-O he really is. I know he is telling the other moms at school about how he "really wants children of his own" but "hasn't found the right woman." Ack! I'm still not sure why, but I think the foster child is "easy" because he's not really his, so he can pretend to be a father without actually being one. He also isn't saddled with the actual relationship that produces a child. (He told me that early on, that he hoped to have a child but didn't ever think about love or marriage--well, he managed to work that one out!) Only a freaking narc could think, "Hmmmmmm, how do I have a child without having a bothersome relationship with a woman AND WHILE I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND I'M TRYING TO GET PREGNANT?!" Their thoughts are so unimaginably terrifying.
Apr 23 - 3AM
fooled no longer
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What a typical Narc pierce of

What a typical Narc pierce of excrement! they all fear commitment and a baby represents commitment and responsibility for another human being. Something they are incapable of. There should be a law passed that castrates them so they cant have these accidents. Mines children are 28 and 23, hes still going on about how he never wanted children and his exwife trapped him- I want to say For DUCKS SAKE grow up and smell the coffee. they came out of the woman 3 decades ago. When are you going to grow up DIPSHIT! If I were you I would tell everyone who came along so he can face the music, Poetic justice comes to mind.
Apr 26 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
Susan32
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Poetic justice

The ex-Psych prof HATED children, yet he always fantasized about impregnating a woman (I, for one) He couldn't stand it when I volunteered at a local elementary school, referring to the children as "snot-nosed urchins." Then, around the time I left NM, he got his butch live-in girlfriend pregnant. With twins (I've called them Luke&Leia ever since, because it was a boy&a girl, and like Obi-Wan I was disappointed with their father) For some reason, I felt it was poetic justice that 9 months after I left NM... without telling ANYONE... (I pulled the disappearing act on him after going NC)... his girlfriend was giving birth. The thought of those babies screaming, drooling, letting loose poopy diapers made the torments I loosed on him look mild in comparison. "A baby represents commitment&responsibility for another human being"-I read that the ex-P's parents moved in WITH HIM to raise his twins. There is ZERO mention of the ex-P when his twins are mentioned. It's as if the twins were orphaned, so the grandparents had to step in and raise them. "Poetic justice comes to mind"-Well, that explains why when I sent a short email to the ex-P congratulating him on the blessings of fatherhood... I got NOTHING. It was a sappy "oh, isn't it sweet God has blessed you with children?" sort of thing. Whether I was being sadistic and/or sentimental... you decide. "He's still going on about how he never wanted children"-I had a morbidly obese coworker who constantly complained about paying child support. He tried to evade doing it, but he failed.
Apr 23 - 3AM
dudette
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narcs and pregnancies

Narcs are equally weird with pregnancies which they use as a mean of control etc.... My N got me pregnant last year. In fact, that was the beginning of the end... I believed for a while that it was an accident.... but then I realised that we were always having unfortunate condom splitting accidents when I was vulnerable. My N also used to say that he knew when women were fertile. Because I trusted him implicitely, I thought he was trying to protect me, not impregnate me....three times over two years I was late and worried like mad for weeks. Last September I realised I was pregnant and my absolute immediate reaction to that was we could not keep this baby. Everything about it was so wrong...The N agreed that it was the right thing to do, offered to pay for it and told me that when we were married he would have a vasectomy.... I arranged to terminate the pregnancy - it was very very early on...I arranged it on my own. The N got annoyed that i would not give his name as next of kin in case it went wrong....I was trying to protect him....but he saw me everyday during that period and appeared loving and very supportive, kept talking about our future together. The narc began to pull away right after the termination and the silent treatment began. Four days later I dumped him. He then told his ex-wife that he had wanted the baby all along.... go figure! I think he got me pregnant on purpose as a form of control and as a sick "trophy"..... He soon realized that I would not be controlled in that way..... that was the end of that....some are proud of the number of terminations they have on record... They are just sick sick individuals.....
Apr 26 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
Susan32
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Pregnancy weirdness

The ex-Psych prof portrayed himself as Mr. Family Values, saying he was against artificial contraception&abortion. He was proud that he watched FOX News (this was in the late '90s, so this might've been before Glenn Beck,Bill O'Reilly&Sean Hannity), that he was NOT a "Massachusetts liberal", that he was opposed to homosexuality.... he made himself look as conservative as possible. But it's a very self-serving conservatism. Leo Tolstoy was against abortion&birth control, yet he had no problems with using his wife Sofia as a sex toy... and said that if a woman had 2 or 20 kids, they wouldn't be enough. In "War and Peace",Helene Kuragin is portrayed as evil because she doesn't want to bear her husband Pierre's children, and she ends up dying from a botched abortion. He was paranoid that women he had sex with were using contraception&getting abortions behind his back. He'd say how he wanted to get me pregnant, so see a "strong woman made vulnerable with pregnancy." He thought that if he impregnated me, I wouldn't leave him. So I didn't have sex with him... knowing he made a BIG DEAL of preferring his ladyloves Rosie Palms and Little Debbie. The ex-P, when I had him for freshman lab, was OBSESSED with what pregnant women ate. He was obsessed with Margie Profet, who had theories about women's diets and pregnancy. Eerily, Profet disappeared in Cambridge, Massachusetts back in '05 or '06;her case remains unsolved. At one point, one of my classmates asked him if he were pregnant. The ex-P OBVIOUSLY saw pregnancy as a form of control. It makes me puke thinking of how he must've treated his girlfriend when she was expecting twins... unless she was as much a Narc as him. He'd compare me to the character of Princess lisa in "War and Peace." Lisa is pregnant, afraid, suffering... instead of caring for her, her husband Prince Andrei Bolkonsky verbally abuses her, then abandons her to seek glory in battle. He tells his father Prince Nicholas that he grew tired of his wife once she got pregnant. The ex-P would compare me to Lisa when he verbally abused me... and say that like Prince Andrei, he'd kiss his father affectionately but kiss my hand like a stranger.
Apr 27 - 5AM (Reply to #7)
Susan32
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More pregnancy weirdness

As much as the ex-Psych prof would say how he wanted to get me pregnant so I wouldn't up&leave him... he'd also say he'd be fed up with me (as is Andrei is fed up with his pregnant wife Lisa in "War and Peace") and DISAPPOINTED if I had his child. He'd make a big deal about people's weight. Yet he'd say he found sexual sublimation in food (quoting John Kennedy Toole's "Confederacy of Dunces") It's like he WANTED to see me fat. In the first epilogue of "War and Peace",the happy, spirited Natasha Rostov becomes dour, dull, stops singing, and as Leo Tolstoy strikingly says "all one could see was her face&her body. Her soul was no longer visible." She bears 4 children to Pierre, and the fire dies in her eyes. Tolstoy portrays Natasha letting herself go as a GOOD THING. The ex-P would say that he'd make me stop singing. Gives a whole new meaning to "slay it with music." Bad enough that his idol Gwyneth Paltrow starred as a country diva in "Country Strong" opposite Tim McGraw, and she's been singing on GLEE.
Apr 27 - 7AM (Reply to #8)
dudette
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yours is so absolutely also a weirdo

If only he would donate his body to science upon his death, quite a specimen.....
Apr 27 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Susan32
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"If only UMass Medical had his brain"

UMass Medical in Worcester, MA, has psychology/psychiatry/neurology majors intern at Worcester State Hospital... the mental hospital. It's the only mental hospital Freud visited in his sole US tour in 1910. But I'd argue that Napa State Hospital is more scenic... and it's conveniently located across the street from the community college. So if the ex-Psych prof had a meltdown during a Q&A session after one of his lectures, he could be taken across the street. A 5 minute drive tops.
Apr 23 - 6AM (Reply to #3)
Alisa
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Narcs and pregnancies

What I don't get though is why they don't wear a condom. yes, maybe it's all because they can't have an erection that well. Mine was so weird and contradictory on the subject. 1) He appeared to love kids (spent lots of time with his nieces) 2) Wanted to know very early on if I wanted to have kids (I am 38). Since I am still leaning towards not wanting any I was vague in my response and said I wasn't sure 3) He said he wanted kids but before that he wanted to be in a relationship for 2-3 years (like that's ever going to happen) 4) When we had sex I asked him if he wasn't going to use a condom to which he replied "Aren't you on birth control any longer?" I had never discussed the matter with him so I was a bit surprised he knew I was on the pill. He claimed he had seen it in my toiletry bag in full display while we were on vacation. I KNOW for a fact I was keeping it there but hidden, so he must have looked through the bag and lied to me about it 5) He would NOT understand that I insisted on a condom (becoming pregnant is one thing but catching a disease from somebody who has new girlfriends every 2-3 months is another). The first time I insisted on it he ended up using one, the second time he didn't have any, so I actually dug one up from I don't know when and where but that's when he started crying about his ex. NOW I am wondering if maybe he just wanted to hide the fact he couldn't get an erection, although I really didn't notice anything. FREAKS.
Apr 23 - 7AM (Reply to #4)
Monica
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Alisa...you solved a mystery for me!!!

I, too, could not understand why mine refused to wear a condom but he had major erection problems...except when he was masturbating...and that would explain it all! He knew I wanted true intimacy/love making and once in a while would give it the ole college try but he was totally unable to keep an erection for intercourse. He much prefered "doing it" himself. That always made me feel so much less of a woman (God, he made me feel awful about myself about EVERYTHING) but I now know that between his porn addiction and the jerking off (1-3 times a day), he probably could no longer have normal sex. I never considered the condom relation here. Thank you, Alisa!
Apr 23 - 8AM (Reply to #5)
SoaperGirl
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Narcs often have severe sexual problems

In one of my narcissist books written by a professional - it says that narcs often have severe sexual problems. Explains my own narc's impotence. He couldn't keep it up any significant length of time. I thought it was widower's syndrome, but now I realize it was much more that. Narcs of both types often and usually prefer auto-eroticism (masturbation) over normal sex as we think of it. Makes sense they'd want to make love to the person they value the most - Themselves!
Apr 23 - 3AM
Scoop
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Oh lord .. well that that

Oh lord .. well that that then Rainbow . What a complete dog this narc is .. How can he say to the ow not to say anything about the baby ? my mind boggles with youre narc he is off the scale . Im not suprised you feel sick , i feel sick just reading it .. words fail me .xx