Marriage/Relationship = Self-Object

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#1 May 28 - 9AM
agnesmurphy17
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Marriage/Relationship = Self-Object

I have been reading these posts which ponder "why did he marry me?" "Why do they marry?" The reasons obvious, as recounted . . . culture, respectability, & family. More specific . . . money, sex, & services (domestic & secretarial). The last three answer the question of "why are they always entering into instant relationships? Why can't they be alone for more than 45 seconds?"

However, one theory which I have found very useful is the notion of the "self-object." The self-object is the child's blanket or small toy -- held in the hand when leaving the house. The self-object is associated in the child's mind with home & his mother. So when he is away from home & his mother, he is not thrown into an abyss of insecurity because his sense of self is not fully developed & he is so dependent on the mother & the home. So when he is in day care, etc. he holds the blanket to comfort himself when stressed or unsure. It grounds him.

Now, for these personality disordered men, the woman is his self-object. Without her he has no place in the world. It is an obvious mother identification. But a grown-up man needs sex, not breast milk. But like a child, he is drawn to the mother, but he feels suffocated by her because he needs to develop his own independence & identity. And like a child, he kicks the mother/self-object girlfriend around because like a mother he feels she will always love him & never abandon him. They want the girlfriend to render the unconditional love that the mother represents.

The need for a self-object is why they go from woman to woman. Overlapping & lining up. One relationship dovetails right into another. Without a woman as "home" & a person to abuse, they are lost. Like a child feels the mother is part of him, so the PD feels the woman is an extension of him. So they cannot be alone. And they are really very fragile beings, although bullys underneath. They pull on women's maternal instincts. So many women say that they knew this guy was weak & fragile psychologically . . . however, these same women are sometimes hospitalized by the physical violence of these men.

Jun 1 - 11AM
Portia
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Empathy vs Empty

Jun 1 - 9AM
Portia
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Ability to Adapt

Jun 2 - 10PM (Reply to #15)
Rising Dawn
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Accepting the disorder

Jun 1 - 10AM (Reply to #14)
agnesmurphy17
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Projection

Jun 1 - 9AM (Reply to #11)
neverlookback
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The problem

Jun 1 - 10AM (Reply to #12)
Lucky Escape
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NLB

Jun 1 - 10AM (Reply to #13)
agnesmurphy17
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When in Rome

Jun 1 - 9AM (Reply to #10)
Lucky Escape
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Portia

Jun 1 - 7AM
neverlookback
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Interesting theory

Jun 1 - 10AM (Reply to #8)
agnesmurphy17
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my theory = control

Jun 1 - 5AM
Lucky Escape
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This has given me another

May 30 - 5PM
onwithmylife
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Agnes Murphy

May 31 - 11AM (Reply to #5)
agnesmurphy17
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Theory

May 28 - 6PM
greengirl91
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True, very logically

May 28 - 12PM
missym
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Yep....ditto. Just like my

May 28 - 9AM
ordinarycourage
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This explains alot