Loveless, porn style sex

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#1 Apr 16 - 1AM
TygerTyger
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Loveless, porn style sex

I've been reading thru many many messages here on this forum (so far I'm back to page 110) and someone back there mentioned "porn style sex."

Fortunately my experience with an N was relatively short lived, and we were only intimate twice, but what an eye opener!

The guy is very much a somatic N, and in my opinion is addicted to sex..not just to get off but it's like his entire emotional world is bound up in it..chasing new women, being around women, talking about women, I've never met a man so wound up with women..I have to admit, he was a GREAT kisser, and very attractive..well, you know how it goes.

But the sex. At first glance..passionate, fun...intense. Yes, all of those things. Then, I took another look, and the interesting thing was...this was different from all my other experiences in the past.

There was no affection. It was very masturbatory. He knew exactly what he wanted me to do, how to do it, and directed me to do so. He used crude terms like "pussy" and "tits" when referring to body parts, which I found cold and off putting. He used lines that sounded right out of a porn flick, like he had learned them from watching porn.

He also (and this is the subject of my other thread) talked about other women during this, how someone was too slow, how I was "slow but persistent"..gee, thanks. Slow..huh. Well, so much for trying to be sensual. If you don't grab that dick within 15 seconds you go on the bad list!!

Also very interesting is how he goofed on one woman he was with who was sort of offended by him saying "thanks for the fuck" to her afterwards..she was annoyed he didn't consider it "making love." Carefully listening to his tone of voice, it became evident to me he couldn't possibly equate sex and love. He seemed to think it was a joke, a laugh.

He also seemed to take some sort of delight in pissing women off. Shocking them, or hurting them, seeing them be offended by being cold or crude..I couldn't quite figure it out. I guess some men like drama too, stirring things up. Do these guys actually hate women? Do they resent having sex with them? It's all so odd..being so disdainful of something you constantly chase.

At the end of our session, he promptly drifted off to sleep. I tried to snuggle up to him for a moment and he said "I need some elbow room." So I scooted away from him.

At that moment I made up my mind I would never enter his bed again, and I never did. I barely slept that night, wishing I was home safe in my own bed with my dogs curled around me. I should have left. The feeling screamed at me all night. "YOU DON'T BELONG HERE."

I never discussed any of this with him..what was the use.

God, I read thru all this and just want to hang my head with shame thinking I actually was excited about him and ENDURED all those stupid stories about other women. Yuck!

Any insight, opinions are welcome and again, thank you..you guys are great!

Apr 16 - 9AM
Janet
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sex, oh boy

My first experience with and N was my husband who was cerbral; we did not have sex for 10 years (and why again did I stay???). So when I met Somatic N - I was just happy to have sex. But, he liked to "spank" me during sex (and hard), to "playfully" slap my face "just a bit, its just for fun", to pull my hair from behind, always crude talk "suck my big d**k", when I was tired "let me just put it in", always to put fingers in my a**, in the beginning bruised breasts... wow. I thought that was normal. Either no sex at all or loveless porn sex. And, hey I am willing to have a night or 2 of porn sex but 4 years. Each day the clouds keep clearing and I am seeing the world in such a more positive way. Peace. J

Peace. J

Apr 16 - 5PM (Reply to #15)
cynthia (not verified)
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to pull my hair from behind,

what is up with the pulling hair, mine did that too once but I freaked out too much and he backed off, he also got rough one time holding my head down on his thingy - but as my counselor said, you just got a tiny tiny bit of what he is really like, but he didnt want to scare you away so he backed off. No wonder when we got together he would just walk in the door and stick it in, he is probably used to paying hookers to service him and waits in his hotel room laying in bed naked ready to go. My counselor thinks he has also paid for all kinds of sexual experiences, pain, men, women, acting out, my counselor said he has also cross dressed to play the woman, its all about the different sexual experiences, they dont care how good you are, how kind you are, how beautiful you are, how talented you are, how smart you are, (they use those women for fronts) he couldnt stress enough to me that it was all about the sexual encounter, old, thin, real heavy, young, ugly, beautiful.... If he had the choice of having sex with one beautiful woman or three not so attractive women at the same time guess who he would pick? YA you got it. He told me you would be shocked if you saw the partners he has had, just because he is very good looking has nothing to do with his sexual fantasies just so he finds someone that will give him what he is looking for.
Apr 16 - 6PM (Reply to #16)
Nothanx
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Cross dressing

I caught mine wearing womens panties, garter belt and stockings. He said that the excessive porn had made him do weird things, and he was just acting out. He would look at porn ALL day and masturbate like 10 times, but he could never finish the job through regular sex. I still can't believe I was in a relationship with such a freak!
Apr 17 - 11AM (Reply to #17)
cynthia (not verified)
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the things they do behind doors

I still can't believe I was in a relationship with such a freak! You and me both, not unusual for them to act out to get off, counselor said regular sex with him was as about as exciting as going to first base. counselor once asked me on a scale of 1-10 how much do you think he REALLY looked forward to your encounters? I told him that was hard to answer because they are such good actors, he said, give it a shot, and I said oh maybe a 5? Counselor shook his head and said NO WAY, about a negative 1 he was just securing you by giving you sex so you would believe there was something between you, but he in no way looked forward to it, it was a chore for him to maintain you. It explains why there was always ED and he talked big on the phone with all he wanted to do but in person NOTHING - what did we lose in the end? Only ourselves, and all the love we might as well have thrown out the window. I have gotten alot of closure from just the mere fact I was involved with a deformed person but the aftermath in dealing with all that wasted energy I spent loving him ALL FOR NOTHING
Apr 16 - 4PM (Reply to #14)
TexN (not verified)
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Same here

Pulling my hair, hard spanks, jiggling his junk like it was a prize. Always wanted me to tell him how big he was...
Apr 16 - 7AM
enoughalready
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tyger

You have described my sexual experience with XN. It's so interesting these narcs are so alike. It's almost as if they came from the same village/same family or have the same language of sex in bed. It's disgusting to think we actually loved these people.
Apr 16 - 7AM
Tryintoheal
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Tyger Tyger

Good for you for noticing the red flags. I put up with this porn style sex for 9 years, well 8 as he was nice for the first year to get me hooked. You have saved yourself a lot of heartache, I couldnt even have a romantic dinner in the end but we had to drive by a sex shop on the way home for lingerie and toys. I did things Im not proud of and all those names he called your parts is exactly what mine did. As for intimacy afterwards, that doesn't exist. I'll never ever let this happen to me again, ever. I'm so glad you are never going to see him again, he's an asshole.
Apr 16 - 6AM
Barbara (not verified)
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hate

Despite what other writers on NPD say - Ns do not hate women. They hate everyone. They are incapable of seeing anyone as anything other than a cardboard cutout, as an object in the "play" inside their head. If you act other than their "play" they go postal. You ask for intimacy, affection, an explanation, accountability - you'll get word salad and some sort of rage. THEY don't belong on the same planet as us, IMHO ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 16 - 11AM (Reply to #9)
TygerTyger
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Barbara, you are right! He

Barbara, you are right! He had contempt for so many people...past girlfriends, people in his social and professional circle and even his own friends who were trying to help out with his various projects...good hard working people..would be degraded..they arent fast enough, smart enough, good enough..even when they broke their butts. He had a HUGE amount of envy too, for fellow professionals that he thought were getting more praise and adulation. He HATED HATED HATED that. The envy was all entangled with feelings of disdain and contempt. I figured at some point I'd end up being an object of contempt too. I'm sure he's already told some twisted tales about me. Such is life! He's miserable. I don't have to be.
Apr 16 - 1PM (Reply to #10)
Barbara (not verified)
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contempt

read through our whole MY BLOG Section, please! There's so many blog posts that talk about this very thing. They have contempt for all objects... which is what we are to them. ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 16 - 4AM
cynthia (not verified)
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your gut feelings

wishing I was home safe in my own bed with my dogs curled around me. Funny you should say that, pretty bad when we feel more loved sleeping with our animals, it feels so safe and warm as apposed to cuddling up with a snake. Having sex with them is like making a porn flick isnt it? Vulgar, vile language and yes mine orchestrated what he wanted me to do, I felt like one big sex toy he just put on his d--k to get off, if I had a button on my back that made me vibrate he would have pushed it. When I have sex with someone I want to feel human and not feel like I am making a porn tape.
Apr 16 - 2AM
nolongerafixer
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Listening to our subsconscious voice!

"The feeling screamed at me all night. "YOU DONT BELONG HERE." Well done for seeing one of the big RED FLAGS and doing something about it before he well and truly hooked you! I am so proud of you. "YOU DON`T BELONG HERE" ........the amount of times my subconscious screamed that out at the beginning and yet I got in deeper and deeper! In the first year, with my own words, I was describing my relationship with xN - `HEAVEN THEN HELL`, `DR.JEKYLE THEN MR.HYDE`, `LIKE BEING ON A ROLLERCOASTER` - these were descriptions I later saw being used over and over when I was so mentally/physically shredded apart (after I finally managed to get away) and found this site in my quest for answers as to what it was all about. When I think about it, each time he upt the HEAVEN stakes to keep me there, the HELL was added to twofold! I say again.............WELL DONE!
Apr 20 - 5PM (Reply to #6)
Tiredofthinking
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Gut feeling

I know now..always listen to your gut instinct.It's ALWAYS right.
Apr 16 - 11AM (Reply to #5)
TygerTyger
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Thank you, but I still think

Thank you, but I still think I hung around too long, because after I decided no more sex he put me to work on some music/design related projects for him. At this point we were "friends"..so this was supposed to be a favor for him. After a couple of weeks of more direction, requests and mounting work coming from him I put the brakes on. It occurred to me he didn't actually ever ASK me if I wanted to do it, he just requested it and I didn't say no. I fault myself for agreeing..but of course I didnt know more and more was going to avalanche into my lap. I told him I wasn't going to finish the work. I completed one thing we had started and said he'd have to find someone else to do the rest. Yay for me. It was very liberating. The point was, this is something you do when someone is special to you...when we are in RELATIONSHIPS people use their talents to help one another. This was not a relationship. And as far as a "friendship"..ha! Yeah, a one way friendship, where I do all the favors. I am no longer in contact with him. Obviously! Talk about being sucked dry.
Apr 16 - 9AM (Reply to #2)
Nothanx
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Weird Sex

Mine was super hyper sexual in the beginning, and after about 6 months he turned the opposite (like sex was a chore). This was very confusing and almost put me in the nut house! I also had a voice in the back of my mind that screamed "HE IS WEIRD, GET AWAY", but I ignored it. Strange that mine was clearly a cerebral, but he had many of the same symptoms as your somatic. I can't tell you how many times I was laying in bed with him and was wishing I was by myself. We would come home from a wonderful night and Bam...he would turn on me! Usually he would say things that he knew would piss me off (like mentioning other women). I always thought it was his way of getting out of having sex.
Apr 16 - 4PM (Reply to #3)
wallaby (not verified)
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I read somewhere

That intellectual narcs occasionally revert to being sexually obsessed and getting their N jollies that way- so for periods they are like somatic N's - but in the long run it is not their preferred game. Then they withold and go back to the non-sexual ways of getting attention and domination.
Apr 16 - 7PM (Reply to #4)
Barbara (not verified)
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porn, masturbation & exploitation

http://thestumblingblock.wordpress.com/2010/03/01/porn-hookers-masturbation-and-exploiting-others/ ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller