long time no speak....

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#1 Jul 14 - 7PM
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long time no speak....

Hey everyone,

it's been quite a while since I've been active on the website. Its been an interesting time. After being gaslighted and disgarded by my exN and then bullied at work by what I can only describe as more N's I decided to make the bold move to take some time out from work.

I returned to my office after a period of working away from, had changed my phone number, started getting strong to only be bullied on my return. I was blamed for my deterioration of the quality of my work (a fact I never denied but stated was without a doubt due to the suffering I was put through) and told that I had not performed well enough and if I did not sign a number of performance indicators I would be punished. I was threatened with this, despite crying my eyes out on a daily basis and asking for help and support. I decided enough was enough and sought the support of my doctor. This was not a decision I took lightly but felt backed into a corner. I have a very close family member who is seriously ill and has been for some time which has been added emotional stress.

Anyway, one of my last posts on the site was that it had been a number of weeks with no contact. As it would transpire, that didn't last long. My exN began to contact me at home. I didn't realise for some time until he happened to catch me indoors one day. I then began to investigate looking at caller Id and realised he had been calling a lot. We spoke on one occasion about 8 weeks ago, very late at night. The phone rang and because my relative is very ill my instinct was to answer it in case anything had happened. The caller witheld their number! It was him, drunk and rambling. I told him he had been warned not to contact me and he continued that he was getting in to trouble at work ( we work at the same place although not in the same building) and that we could resolve these issues amicably. I felt weak, broken down and began to listen. I could hear a voice screaming in my head that I shouldn't and that I should just put the phone down but I couldn't. He kept saying he'd never loved anybody like me and that he'd typed out a huge email but could not send it. Anyway, as luck would have it, his phone cut out. However for the following few weeks and up until 2 and a half weeks ago, he called every few days, always late at night and a lot! I didn't answer, I told work, they did nothing. I was told to make a criminal allegation or nothing would be done, despite systems in place to deal with this kind of behaviour.

I just didn't feel I could do it. I just wanted it to stop. I got a representative from a support organisation involved who then asked me out!!!!!! Unbelievable! I really felt like I had no where to turn.

The upshot is, the calls have stopped. I haven't had one for nearly 3 weeks now but all of a sudden I feel like I'm back at square one. I was doing so well, felt my confidence was back and I was moving on.......

well I guess the crazy thing I need to say is...... I almost miss the phone calls. Does this sound ridiculous?! I had become reliant on his calls, it actually made me feel good that he would call and I would watch the phone ringing and not answer. Does anybody else understand that feeling?

It has now made me feel sad. All I want is to just feel free from all of it. I know its not been that long and in reality its only been 4 months since I've finally been free of him. A guy has shown some interest in me and was very full on and I had to be honest and say that I wasn't ready for that and it wouldn't be fair to have a relationship for me to freak out. That makes me feel so angry that I've been so affected by my ex. That he has affected my life in so many ways.

It's the anger that gets to me the most. I feel like I've wasted so much of my life.

I saw an old school friend today and she was married with 2 kids and telling me about other girls I was at school with who are settling down. Its made me feel bad about myself. I thought I was going to be getting married this year, planning a family! I have no real outlet for the anger!!!!! Where can it go?! I want to hurt him so badly and I can't because I know that doesn't achieve my goals!

I am starting a new career in 5 weeks time, leaving my current job with all its existing narcs and my ex and that's a great feeling to know I won't have to see any of them again but my god I'm feeling strange!

I'm sorry to write such a long post, its been a long time and I just feel I have a lot to get of my chest.

Can anyone else relate?

x

Jul 15 - 6PM
sawthelight
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sorry that my name is so similar to yours

i just read your post. i'm new to the site and i didn't realize that anyone else already had a user name like mine. sorry!!! i totally know what you mean about how good it makes you feel when he keeps calling and we ignore the calls. i LOVED that!!

sawthelight

Jul 15 - 6PM (Reply to #14)
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Hey Sawthelight

Great minds think alike obviously! Its a strange feeling isn't it! Its funny that I'd been thinking it for a while, it gave me power, then when it stopped I felt weird, even just getting it off my chest on here has made me feel better! Sometimes its the funny little thoughts that niggle away that when you actually get them out in the open make you feel ok again. You realise that lots of other people feel the same way! xo
Jul 15 - 6PM (Reply to #15)
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hey seeing the light

this site is so validating. i too felt a weird sadness when his calls became less frequent because i LOVED pissing him off and ignoring his calls and i loved feeling powerful over him. i'm glad to know that you felt the same way. however, he lives down the street from me, so I can ignore him whenever i see him. that helps.

sawthelight

Jul 15 - 6PM (Reply to #16)
seeingthelight
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Fabulous!

And I guess one of the next stages is the not caring about his reaction or pissing them off, now that one I am REALLY looking forward to! I just read on someone else's post about these people just being a tiny part of our lives or "one chink in your armour" as it was described. That's something friends and relatives have said to me, one day this person will mean nothing to me and that really is freedom! We'll get there! Well done! I like what Lisa said above about trying to feel that because of who these guys are we shouldn't feel sad and I think that's very true, we really don't need them! I guess there will always be moments of sadness and perhaps false memory of how things really were. I haven't been able to do it yet but I kept a diary a few months back when things were really bad, I can always turn to it if I need reminding! x
Jul 14 - 11PM
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seeingthelight

Oh, I know how you're feeling. It is validating when you can watch him call over and over and not answer his call. It does make you feel good. Then one day, his calls stop. It is an adjustment. I agree, it's not easy. However, we must remember the end goal. We want this man out of our life. That is what we want and we must remember this. Why do we need validation from a man whom we have no respect for anyway?! We don't! There are many outlets for your anger - any type of working out is an incredible outlet, especially kickboxing. Sing, write, create, make something, hit something, destroy something (material, of course), dance like a mad woman. ;) You mentioned feeling bad that your friends from school are settling down with kids and you thought you would be married this year. Why do we women feel like this is our only goal in life? I'm not saying that you think this, sorry that must have sounded harsh, but think about it. There is so much death, destruction, poverty and terrorism in the world. We are so fortunate to be able to come to the internet and express ourselves openly and freely whenever we want. I think it always helps to put things in perspective. We begin to realize and be grateful that we're not starving, dying or a prisoner of war in some foreign country. I believe as women, we are socialized to believe we must get married and have children in order to be happy. Yet, do you know how many women I know who are married with children and miserable? I'm not saying that is a forumla for misery by any means, but I am saying it's not for everyone. It doesn't make sense that we should all aspire to the same thing. That's not natural, is it? I don't think so. Sorry for going off on a tangent there. :) I mainly just wanted to reach out to you and tell you that you're exactly where you need to be right now. You didn't give in to his recent attempts to get you back, you stayed strong and you are about to start a new career. You should be sooooo proud of yourself right now!!!! Instead, you're comparing yourself to women who are married and having babies. Some of them would rather be in your shoes right now and you may be in their shoes in five years. You don't know. Point is, right now you are right where you need to be and you need to embrace it! If you are meant to be a mother, it will happen. Worrying about something you have no control over right now will do nothing for you. Focus on what you can control - the career and your newfound independence!!!! Congrats! We should be celebrating! xoxo
Jul 15 - 9AM (Reply to #10)
Steph
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I am glad you pointed all

I am glad you pointed all this out as it resonated with me as well. I have myself worrying about not finding someone, not having children etc. But you are so right, if I am meant to be a mother, it will happen. Right now, I am exactly where I should be.......with all of you! :)
Jul 15 - 7PM (Reply to #12)
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I know it sounds silly

but I guess its something that I had been frightened of expressing as my friends just roll their eyes and say oh don't be daft. Its good to know you can say what you truly feel here and get the mutual support of people who listen, understand and give great advice! xo
Jul 15 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
Lisa E. Scott
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stayingstrong

Yes, you are exactly where you should be....with all of us...and for that I am very grateful. :) xoxo
Jul 15 - 12AM (Reply to #2)
M
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children

Remember you can have a child & be a great mom without a husband. You just need sperm & timing. You want a healthy relationship with a good soul. Real men want a strong woman who is her own person & will not adapt for him. They want to admire you! Find you, your strength. Recognize your weaknesses & strengthen them. Exercise is amazing. You feel physically strong--and the mental follows. I started yoga before I met xN. it was the one thing I didn't give up for him--and we fought about it! (Thought when we met he thought it was so cool.)I find more strength from it now--and i'm more focused. Also if you strengthen your physical core (abs, back, hips, glutes) you feel stronger mentally. Try it. Lisa knows--kickboxing targets that too
Jul 15 - 12AM (Reply to #3)
Lisa E. Scott
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Options

Great point, M! We do NOT need a man to have a baby. If this is a life goal you must fulfill, you have options!
Jul 15 - 8AM (Reply to #4)
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Perspective

wow, thanks! That has really kicked me up the bum in the proverbial sense! You're absolutely right, I just needed to get some perspective! The minute I'd finished reading I got up and did an hour's yoga and I feel better already. I have been exercising quite a lot lately to channel my energy and I have noticed that has helped, as well as feeling better about my appearance but I think the lull of the weekend took its toll and I forgot what I needed to do! Lisa, thank you so much for your response, how very true, I am very lucky and I should be celebrating that! I guess I felt a bit cheated out of what should have been but OMG not with that man! I of course do not want him in my life and need to remind myself of what he put me through rather than romanticising things. And again, noted that many women would perhaps like to be in my shoes rather than the other way around. M - very true, I do have options and I need to remember that! Thank you so much, hopefully I can refocus now. Oh and the champagne will be flowing, I will be handing my notice in next week at my current job! xxxo
Jul 15 - 4PM (Reply to #9)
Lisa E. Scott
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Seeingthelight

Good, you have much to celebrate! :) xoxo
Jul 15 - 9AM (Reply to #5)
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Seethelight

Good for you! You sound like you're doing everything in a positive fashion to move on. I give you a ton of credit and keep up the spirit! Let us all know where the party is when you hand in your notice...haha! Sounds great!
Jul 15 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
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Thank you!

Thank you very much! I shall post next week when I have handed in my notice so hopefully you can all raise a glass! x
Jul 15 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
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seeingthelight

Just wanted to add from the other side of the spectrum because we are all somewhere we didn't expect to be at this point in our life. I'm 51 and have now spent 10 yrs with a man that i was suppose to sail into old age with but here I am alone with very little prospects, cut off from all the people I used to know, and wondering what now? It's slim pickings for partners my age who are not looking for a 30 yr old or that I even find attractive, esp now. I have been unemployed for 2 yrs and was completely incapacitated for the first year and a half because of his constant off and on again stalking and harassment. But you know what? Lisa and others are exactly right. There are plenty of women out there that did not follow the typical recipe for life. Now that I am no longer incapacitated by all the mindfu*king anymore, I have begun to see my situation as a 'once in a lifetime opportunity'. With no job and my last child going on to college this year, I am for the first time in 20 years free to be me. I can sell everything and go and that's exactly what i'm planning to do. I found a great site for work exchange programs in Europe that are looking for all the things I do best. I am starting a line of products for my profession, as the bottom has dropped out in construction industry. And I have survived 2 yrs without losing a thing. I have always believed I was destined to live an unconventional life and now it is happening. Are you hearing Helen Reddy yet?...I am woman, hear me ROAR!'? Well, I'm not quite there because I have good days and bad moments still but one thing I have gained these last few years of dealing with exN is a great deal of faith. Like Lisa said there are plenty of women out there who do not have children and are very content. There are also plenty of children out there that need someone to care for them. Focus on getting yourself repaired and being who you are first and the rest will come. Like John Lennon said, 'life is what happens while we are busy making plans.' Congratulations on the new job. That is no easy feat these days. Look forward to the possibilities it may bring.

almostlydia

Jul 15 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
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Almostlydia - inspirational

What an amazing story! How courageous to come through it. How fantastic that you are looking into setting off on such an amazing adventure abroad! I wish you very good luck with that. thank you for your perspective, you are absolutely right and I am trying to have an internal dialogue with myself every day to reinforce repairing myself. I think I feel the same as you that perhaps my life is destined to be unconventional, time to start going with it.... My Mum said to me recently that I need to focus on what I want, surround myself with good people who love and support me and watch what happens. And on that note, my Mum remarried at 54......... She has an amazing husband who is younger by 13 years and loves and supports her in a way that I have never seen before, actually they are probably my role models for a good stable relationship. thank you for your lovely words! xox