Interesting reading material

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#1 Jul 24 - 1PM
Reddley
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Interesting reading material

I have been reading Sam Vaknin's site a lot lately.

In case some of you haven't you really should. In particular you should read his journal entries. How he feels about different aspects of his life. Very insightful. Very scary.

These guys really are just stuck in their own twisted paranoid fantasy world. There is nothing anyone can do to help them. A shrink cannot fix them. Medication can only do so much. That's IF you can even get a narcissist to accept he has a problem. Not likely! My own ex N was forced into a mental institution by the courts and put on lithium. A month after his release he had stopped taking the medications and lied to his shrink about it. They do NOT see themselves as being the problem. I've read over and over in tons of different places that even psychiatrists, therapists etc absolutely hate taking these people on as patients. I can completely understand why.

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal1.html

Jul 24 - 7PM
Goldie
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Yes, I have heard many therapists

say that they are exhausting to work with and they don't appear to change, get better, or even want to change. Most don't even go to therapy. Although, I had a narc male friend who loved to go to therapy. He loved to be the center of attention and has been through more therapists because when they get too close or suggest that he may need to make some changes or that it is NOT everyone else's fault, he quits, creates a conflict and finds a new therapist. God bless, Goldie
Jul 24 - 2PM
onwithmylife
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Reddley

here is a funny one, by he way Sam Vaknin's book saved my life when the narc dumped and devalued me and moved away a few years ago, I carried it around like the Bible, underlined, wrote notes in it, it was like a breathe of fresh air for my suffering and finally realized it was NOT ME.Anyway i am digressing, met a coworker last year, he has his masters in psychology and a darn smart fellow i might add. Mentioned the narc to him in passing because I was still having a hard time recovering from him. This guy said when he got a class of men who were court ordered to come for anger management classes. He would start the class and announce' who thinks Ron, {that is the teacher}, is crazy.' Those guys that raised their hands, he handed over to another therapist because he knew they were hopeless and instead he spent his time and energy who people who REALLY wanted to change, NOT narcissists, because THEY think they are right and YOU are the crazy one, even his own brother told me those very words!!