i'm having a terrible day

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#1 Oct 5 - 6PM
kiwi10
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i'm having a terrible day

this is so hard :(
my psychlogist says ups and downs are normal. i'm just really overwhelmed right now.
i'm so scared to be on my own, and i'm so afriad i'll never find someone new. I feel like at 31 i'm too old to start over. everyone my age is already married. I WANT to be married.
meanwhile, he's a 'sophisticated' 44. he can just go replace me easily. all he needs is a warm body.
i'm so picky anyway. i go out on dates and it's so boring, depressing... plus, most guys my age, if they are single, don't even want to settle down it seems.
I know, i know, 18 months. but what is going to change is the dating world at that time? the guys will still be the same.
i wake up at all hours of the night, trying to figure out when it went wrong. trying to soothe myself by saying he's pathlogical and i couldn't have done anything to salvage it, then i start to question if he really is, or if i'm not just hoping he is. I can't sleep with the guilt of feeling like i braught out the worst in him, and if i had just been less financially demanding and appreciative it would have been better. it seems most women on here were duped money wise. I wasn't at all. i got financially supported. he gave me a car within the first two months of us dating.
if i could have somehow made it work, i could have gotten anything i wanted. i feel like a failure and the only thing i know how to do is post something here and get reassurance.
i'm afriad i'm damaged forever. i feel like a loser. i'm sleepy and lonely and angry and i miss my old life. the good parts of it.

Oct 7 - 2PM
ShaynasMommy
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fireflie honey

He gave you a car so soon and all the other things so that he could hook you and make you less likely to want to leave. We hear all about rich couples where the husband treats her like dirt yet she doesnt leave because she got used to having such nice things and not worrying about paying for her dinner...or anything else she needs. Its a powerful drug, and these N's know it. They use that $$$, if they have any, to look generous and make you feel like you are a greedy money grubbing ungrateful whore when you leave them. Geez, you are NOT too old to start over. And ifyou really want to get married and start a family, you can have that, too. God/Universe wants you to be happy....its not always about pain thru lessons, etc. When you are healed and ready, and WISER, then it will happen. Keep the faith, girl.
Oct 7 - 11AM
Susan32
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When losing is winning

The ex-Psych professor's colleagues were concerned about my involvement with him. Once, I made a comment to a friend about how my professors were so caring and encouraging, and my friend said, "It's because Mr. T--- is always tearing you down." 99% of my college professors were excellent. The ex-P was the 1%. Did I feel hurt after the D&D? I did. Did I feel like a loser? Yes. My professors didn't like how he treated me... so the fact I didn't end up marrying him was probably a big sigh of relief to them! Not to mention the fact some of them didn't trust me because I was with him. I remember that quote about how Ns/Ps only keep enablers, gossips and bullies close to them... so that rejection was a gift in disguise.
Oct 7 - 1AM
fooled no longer
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coulda, woulda, shouda wow

coulda, woulda, shouda wow if that narc ex of yours read this post, because making you doubt yourself is what his goal was and is. And making you financially dependant on him was his best tool. I too have a narc with a job who pays the bills. Big bloody deal!!! so he should for the bullshit ive had to tolerate. sorry to put a big pin in your selfpity bubble but I dont think hes ready or deserving of spawning children now even if ge still was with you. watching your children beaten like you were, thats soul killing, so call it what it is ABUSE and stop selfblaming, if you carry on like this ge may come back for a visit and knock you up just to keep you down and pregnant with his poison seed. well done to our ladies who called him on his horseshit, now you do the same my dear YOUNG and BEAUTIFUL Fierflei xx A
Oct 7 - 9PM (Reply to #20)
kiwi10
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fooled no longer

thank you :) i'm trying to stop the self blame. god, i'm having the hardest time with this and i don't know how to stop. i wish to god i did. i wanted his approval so badly. i'm trying so hard to give it to myself but i just feel so stuck and i thought i was getting better and i'm in a total slump again. i wish i was a narc today
Oct 7 - 9PM (Reply to #22)
NancyM
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Fierflie

Maybe what you need to do is BE a Narc for a day. Get selfish, get it's all about you, get that HE is BENEATH you, GET BLOODY ANGRY. It helps to take on a few of their traits just to get clear. Believe me if you try this, you are not going to turn into one of them, but it does help you see that you got railroaded because you had none of these characteristics.

Nevergoback

Oct 7 - 9PM (Reply to #21)
MsVulcan500
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Fierflie,

Just keep reading and learning. After you've read a whole bunch of articles, and not one of them tells you that you deserved to be abused because you didn't squeeze the toothpaste from the bottom, it will start to click. It's just so hard to wrap your head around the fact that they have no emotions, but everything you read will just reinforce this. It will also reinforce that they can't change so the best thing for you is to RUN!
Oct 7 - 10AM (Reply to #18)
kiwi10
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fooled no longer

i must have forgotten your story. are you married? divorced? you're right about the kid thing, it's just hurtful. i was pregnant and lost it, and every time i sit in my developmental psych class i leave crying. i had to watch my own baby bleed out of me. three month in, too. i guess you guys have a point about the money. sam even says something in his book abpout how narc often put themselves last, spending money on their families and thats how he was. curious creatures...
Oct 7 - 1PM (Reply to #19)
fooled no longer
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my dearest Fierflie

Im sorry you had to loose a baby That more sadness than most of us can take. To answer your question Ive benn single, ive benn married, ive been a longtime girlfriend, ive given birth and raised two amazing children, one of whom is 30 about your age,my daughter who is finishing her second degree and working two jobs to pay for it. The first one I paid for. So ive been all abandoned, orphaned, alone, scared and married again. Thats why I speak from experience, thisman is a pime on thebackside of humanity and the sooner his name disappears from your head the happier you will be. take couage the future can only be better. x A
Oct 7 - 12AM
betty2020
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You did nothing wrong. You

You did nothing wrong. You were a victim. Educate yourself and read all you can get your hands on. What you are going through is the deprogramming phase of recovery. It is normal and expected. Yes you will survive. No one has ever died from this although we have felt like it. We survived and you will too!!! This idea of dating should be the last worry right now fierfly. Restoring your sanity should be first priority so you can function in a semi normal state. Worry about dating when you get to that point. You have plenty of time for that but your loosing precious time for yourself right now. Work on YOU! xoxo only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

only one way to go...Forward (tm?)

Oct 6 - 12AM
Briseis
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Fierflie

You say, "I know, i know, 18 months. but what is going to change is the dating world at that time? the guys will still be the same." Yes they will. But YOU will be different.
Oct 6 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
kiwi10
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briesis

right, i get that. but it really seems like they are all taken if they are good.
Oct 6 - 9PM (Reply to #14)
NancyM
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And what about all those

And what about all those nice guys out there that got mixed up with Narc women? They are probably sitting around saying the exact same thing...all the good ones are taken. Ummm nope, there are plenty of nice people out there for different reasons. Just look at all the gorgeous women on this board for example.

Nevergoback

Oct 7 - 12PM (Reply to #15)
ShaynasMommy
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Damn right, Nancy

That's exactly what my husband told me. He couldn't find a "nice" girl to save his life before he met me. He did basically all the wrong things like I did.....trying to ignore some really bad stuff in the women he dated, downplayed abuse as 'normal,'put up with a lying cheating bitch narc of a GF for 4 years. She tried to convince him that she gave a guy a BJ because he threatened to beat her if she didn't......yeah right. this is after he found out she had cheated several times before. she moved in with him, refused to get a job or go to school, or move off the couch. Same crap, different gender. so yeah it happens to a lot of guys, too. He told me at one point he was considering "just going and knocking some girl up" because he really wanted kids, and didn't see how at his age it was gonna happen. Sound familiar? I guess its kind of reassuring that a lot of men feel these things, too.
Oct 5 - 11PM
iAmMINE
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rollercoastin' w. Fierflie

Fierflie... I don't know if ya ever listened to or embraced the post I posted awhile back. ~And here it is again... just for u :) ---->> see the "PS" bellow b4 listening

~~~ Keep Learning & Keep Healing ~~~

~~~~~ The best revenge is to survive and be victorious over it. Nobody can take from you what you don't give them.

Oct 5 - 9PM
michele115 (not verified)
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Fierflie

Fierflie...listen to Nancy, Jen, Vulcan and Shortway AND I am going to add my two cents: Just recently, I spoke to a friend that has been married for twenty years. She has three children. They seemed like a fairly functional couple. She is very spiritual/religious but doesn't push it down anyone's throat. Actually, from some of the things she does, you'd never know it...but she has a firm foundation on the principals of the word. I'm setting this up for you hun. HE also seemed to have the same values. They appeared to have a good understanding of one another. They made me wish I had their kind of relationship. Just last week, she shared with me, that they had been having problems. She yearned for them to spend more quality time together. She expressed she was "tortured" by his silence. He said to her: I pay the bills, you have the kids to worry about - end of story he thought as long as he provided, she had no say so. She again, presented her case and said she was lonely. He beat the crap outta her. Whats the lesson here? You don't want to be my friend twenty years from now. Stop beating yourself up and look at the information that is being presented. You did not do this. Yes, self examination is vital; however, not to the extent where you feel you could have bent more to make someone else happy. You are who you are and next time around, you will just try harder to find someone who is more in tune with your needs. There is a shoe for every foot. AND 31 is young. Hugs
Oct 6 - 9PM (Reply to #8)
kiwi10
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is there a shoe for his foot

is there a shoe for his foot too?
Oct 6 - 10PM (Reply to #9)
michele115 (not verified)
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Fierflie...

Yes, Fierflie, there is a shoe for his foot too, it's called a horse-shoe and it spends a fairly considerable amount of time in horse S#*T. You don't want to be that shoe... Focus off his shoes, and think more about the Prada's you deserve! Hugs
Oct 6 - 11PM (Reply to #10)
kiwi10
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good one

good one
Oct 5 - 8PM
NancyM
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Fierflie

if i could have somehow made it work, i could have gotten anything i wanted. Let me finish this for you If I was prettier If I was smarter If I was sexier If i had just done everything he wanted when HE wanted How HE wanted...him him him. Do you see where this is going? To him honey, you were bought and paid for. You were his property to do with whatever he wished. You were just a possession, not a person in your own right. You would never have gotten anything you wanted, because your needs do not and will never count to him. Sure there are promises, but they don't materialize because you can be sure at the eleventh hour, YOU did something wrong. On and on it goes. Finances are nothing to them but a tool. Whether they are taking ours, or using it as a means of control, it is still just a tool. 31? You still have it all in front of you. Ok you have left your 20s behind, and are going to come out of this much much stronger and wiser. Nothing to panic about. At 31, I had just left my 2nd N relationship. I stayed alone for about 3 to 4 years just getting my head right again. Unfortunately nobody told me about Narcs so I unwittingly waltzed right into another one at 35. I often wish I could hit the rewind button knowing what I know now, but that is not to be. I can only look forward. Point is, as you come to believe in yourself again, and rid yourself of the poison he has infected you with, you are not going to let another one of these men into your life again. There are still plenty of nice guys out there, and a lucky guy is already out there waiting just for you. But you don't need to find him just yet, first you must nurture YOU.

Nevergoback

Oct 5 - 8PM
jen79
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fierflie

you make a big mistake here. That he provided you with money and gifts doesnt mean, that he is a decent guy and YOU just brought out the devil in him. Giving you money means just that - giving you money. I worked 6 years for a total pedophile, psycho, utter pig BOSS, his tactic was always the same, find a lost young soul, that is in need for help, that has no good parents who protect her, help her out with money and give her attention like crazy, idealize her - and then expect her to do the things, you want her to do for you. I did this with me, with at least 3 others I know about. Then when the victim didnt do what he wanted, he started the D&D, I just stayed so long cause I needed the job for my studies. It doesnt mean anything, that he gave you money or a car, it just means he is a psycho narc, who gave you a car and money...and nothing more and nothing less. Please dont lose your faith, I know its hard, I am 31 too, and sometimes I think I'll never find someone to found a family with....but we still have time...and we need to find strength in us. Me too, I have to learn now to be on my own...we will do it hun!
Oct 5 - 7PM
MsVulcan500
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Oh Fierflie,

Yes we all know there are ups and downs, but sometimes we would just like to have several ups in a row! You are only 31, that is still quite young. You will find someone else, but right now you are better off taking time for yourself. Work on getting over that fear of being alone. It really can be empowering when you get past that fear. Besides, it's good for you to be picky about who you have a relationship with. You deserve no less than the best! Your relationship with your N did not fail because of anything you did. This is a really hard part to get past. You keep doubting that he really is a N, and feel like you should have been nicer, meaner, older, younger, taller, shorter, whatever and it could have worked. The truth is, you were in a game where you didn't know the rules. And as you figured out the rules, they changed. The ante was always upped, keeping you thinking the problem was you. You did not fail. HE FAILED YOU!! You will get your life back, and you are not a loser. And you will realize that no material possessions can equal your mental health.
Oct 6 - 10PM (Reply to #4)
kiwi10
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MsVulcan500

thank you for reassuring me that i'm young. when i say to my mom i feelto old to start over she laughs. she says i'm still a child... another thing you sai dthat really reassured me... "The truth is, you were in a game where you didn't know the rules. And as you figured out the rules, they changed. The ante was always upped, keeping you thinking the problem was you." that's so true. as our relationship went on, i expected less and he expected more. so odd..
Oct 5 - 7PM (Reply to #2)
shortway
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We're in the same boat

We're in the same boat missy!.I'm 32 and have the same thoughts...I actually don't want to suggest anything to people who aren't ready..because I am not ready to date..But i signed up for match.com and it's really cool...there are some..you have to weed them out...nice guys..it's good to meet new people and know different people are out there..take a loook,even for a friend..I have made some friends on there to chat with when i'm bored....Discalimer-i am not saying get into a relationship,i am not saying we are ready..but its nice to see other people out there...
Oct 6 - 10PM (Reply to #3)
kiwi10
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i am on match. i guess i'm

i am on match. i guess i'm picky, but i havent met or even talked to a single guy i would consider dating. so far, it only made me feel worse.