Idealization Phase List

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#1 Oct 20 - 12PM
Froglegs
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Idealization Phase List

Here is a list of some of the things XN did and told me during the idealization phase. Please feel free to add to it so we can all be aware of red flags for the future!

* "You can do no wrong."
* Would stare at me.
* Had to see or talk to me every single day.
* Would sulk or pout if I wanted to do stuff without him.
* Lavished me with gifts and fancy dinners.
* Gave me a key to his house after 2 weeks of dating.
* Swore that I was THE ONE, the soulmate.
* Told me he loved me within a month of dating.
* Scheduled all kinds of little getaways, but wouldn't tell anyone where he was going or who he was with (secretive).
* Told me I was the only one he could trust.
* Told me I was the only one he could be himself around.
* Told me I was his best friend.
* Told me he'd take care of me if I quit work to go to college full time (thank goodness I didn't fall for that one!).
* Always had to be touching me.
* Had an insatiable sexual appetite and was quite generous in the bedroom. Overtly generous.
* Performed oral on the first sexual encounter, but refused to have intercourse and would not let me touch him (a very powerful baiting technique, ladies, so watch out for that one!).
* Indulged my every whim. If I'd not done something before he HAD to be the first to let me experience it (i.e. ride in a limo, eat sushi, etc.).
* Told me he'd never met anyone like me before.
* Told me I was an amazing person.
* Told me he wanted to know my world.

Oct 21 - 8PM
Susan32
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Getting idealized during the final D&D

The ex-Psych prof bookended our relation#hit with idealization. He was idealizing me in the beginning, comparing me to Sofia Tolstoy, various fictional female characters in "War and Peace"-and when he asked me during the final D&D why I liked him, I responded with a laundry list of positive qualities-then he responded by saying I was projecting my positive qualities onto him. He was the one who had idealized me in the first place... and in the end, he accused me of idealizing him. Surreal.
Oct 21 - 6PM
ifinallygotit
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I don't think I was ever idealized

I never felt important in his eyes and he never made me a priority
Oct 21 - 7PM (Reply to #17)
darling.girl
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You should have been

You should have been idealized. For all the crap they dish out, it's like the consolation prize. For a brief, shiny moment we're perfect. But maybe, just maybe, the fact you weren't idealized might result in less f***ing with your mind. I hope so.
Oct 21 - 10PM (Reply to #19)
ifinallygotit
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Well not exactly

But my exN never said any horrible things to me or ever cursed me out - he was polite and just disappeared with no discussion.
Oct 21 - 9PM (Reply to #18)
ValiditySeeker
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I didn't get idealized

I didn't get idealized either. I'm baffled as to what i saw in him. Granted, during the first six months of relationship, there was relative peace with only a few fights that seemed to get resolved. It wasn't until after about six months that he seemed to pick stupid fights and began gaslighting and emotionally abusing me. I didn't stay because he had idealized me. I think it was the opposite: he seemed to make little critical comments that showed he doubted me in some way. Instead of running from him, I was drawn to the idea of proving him wrong. It was like what that asshole Tom Leykus used to teach men to do on his radio show. Worked on me. I'm such an idiot.
Oct 21 - 2PM
ericamichelle
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it makes me sad....

because everyone else knows this list all too well. you've all heard it too?? i believed it. i thought it was exclusive to me. i thought we had something that no one else had. but they all do it, don't they? ouch :(
Oct 21 - 8PM (Reply to #15)
Froglegs
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:( Unfortunately.

:( Unfortunately.
Oct 21 - 8AM
Totally Stunned
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Did we date the same narc??

Did we date the same narc?? Oh Froglegs, that list is a shining example to all of us that they are all the same. Mine told me he loved me early in the idealization phase. * told me I was beautiful and successful * I held the key to his heart * He wanted to spend long days and nights in bed, just holding me and loving me * wanted to take me out with him on his arm in public to show me off.... My most favorite one that sticks out was when there was the potential of our relationship ending...and he told me he was uncomfortable at the thought of losing me, couldn't go on without me in his life. So many things he said and did. So many and never did I realized the red flags. Of course, he had all the great words of seduction. But when it came time to end it? Nothing. Not one word. Never heard from him. Ever. Coward!
Oct 21 - 6AM
Sea
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OMG!!

This one shocks me: * Performed oral on the first sexual encounter, but refused to have intercourse and would not let me touch him (a very powerful baiting technique, ladies, so watch out for that one!). Your Narc is really OTT on seduction and controlling!! OMG!
Oct 21 - 8AM (Reply to #12)
Froglegs
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*nod*

It's a little scary to think about now.
Oct 20 - 1PM
la.luna
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Subtle one, but

*Trying to drive a wedge between you and friends/family in a very sneaky way
Oct 20 - 1PM
Lisa87
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Idealization Phase

Yup every one, he was my knight in shining armor, kind, generous, always there for me and my kids, spent almost every day together, took me away, took my kids away, my Mom, did everything for us. Flew First Class everywhere and the flight attendants would call me Mrs XXX and he loved it. They would tell me how lucky I am to have such a great guy!! Told me he would take care of me forever..sick fuckers they are to mess with our minds like that!
Oct 20 - 1PM
dulcinea441
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You got just about all of it

You got just about all of it down....I'd add "mirroring." If I said I'd had a particular problem or interest or situation unique to my life, he amazingly had had ALL of the same experiences. I mean, like, only HE can understand me, right?
Oct 20 - 12PM
ssm
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trying to add

Im trying to add to your list, but I am having trouble cuz you basically summed it up for me, ok so let me think.. - Told me that : - I was the perfect Mother, and would only have kids with me. (thank god, I DIDNT!) -I completed him. -wouldnt have another relationship after me, cuz I was the "ONE" -he wanted to take an art class, to learn to draw me, so he could stare at my beauty all the time. (GAG!) -was traditional like his parents, and wanted to be "THE MAN" in the relationship, and to let him pay all the bills. (Sadly, I fell for this one but took me months, of his sulking and anger to make me agree, he said i wasnt allowing him to be a MAN!) -Touch me constantly, sexually in public -would do simply acts of kindness (YUCK!) , like make me coffee and bring it to me , and tell me he knew EXACTLY HOW to make my coffee, and no one else would know. -said he loved me on Date 2! -kept the flattering words (HONEYMOON PHASE) alive throughout to the last D&D, cuz he knew I loved romance. -Sent me a movie on valentines day, "THE NOTEBOOK" and said that was OUR story. -Was generous in bedroom, like an insatiable sick pervert (YUCK!) -Insisted on sex in the first week, to "BOND" and "Connect" -Called me his "Better Half" -Said I am his EVERYTHING. ( I told him that was unhealthy once, he raged) I will write more as I think of them, some are repeats of what you said cuz they are all ALIKE! Thanks for this post, this is a VERY good post- especially for us newbies like myself.
Oct 20 - 1PM (Reply to #7)
la.luna
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Crazy....

ssm, I almost choked when I read your list. I got chills. st. Narc and I had the argument over "You're my EVERYTHING and you complete me." I really caught it for telling him it was unhealthy. Also told me I would be an excellent mother, and kept pushing kid the issue, even though I told him I wasn't sure about kids. Mind you, this was maybe three weeks after we met.
Oct 20 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
Froglegs
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Oh gosh, you're so welcome!

Oh gosh, you're so welcome! Seeing how similar they are makes it a bit easier to let them go (IMO). Haha, mine also said he'd never have another relationship. After me he would be done. He'd disappear. He's still here. *eyeroll* Like yours, he also made it a big deal about being "the man" and knowing "his roll". And there weren't any more real men out in the world anymore. He was the last one. I literally chuckled as I typed that because to look back on some of the stuff he said is so damned stupid. *laugh*
Oct 21 - 10AM (Reply to #3)
Praying
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I cant get my jaw closed!

Do they have a manual they read?? Mine in the beginning would want me to send a pix showing what I was wearing or one with who I was with because he missed my face. Then it turned to sending a pick with two fingers up, or one eye closed, or with my pet, or with my child to prove I was where I said I was and that it was a current pick. He one time asked for me to take a picture of the television show I was watching that he knew was on and what was happening to prove I was home watching TV. Because he missed my face. . . WOW
Oct 21 - 10AM (Reply to #4)
Used
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praying

he would phone to meet, i would say not to day, i am staying in, he then used to phone my landline, but put it down when i picked it up... an hour later phone again but not put it down this time and say,so you have been in for at least an hour..... glad to see you are telling the truth used.... yes projection, cos of his nonstop lying......
Oct 21 - 2PM (Reply to #6)
Praying
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Projection

Hi Used, Projectin is the word and I was smart enough during that time to say "stop projecting your ways on me" or "I'm not you!" and he STILL could twist things in his favor. Finally my default response to the insanity was "God knows, who does didn't do what and who loves who HOW" He would twist that too.
Oct 21 - 2PM (Reply to #5)
spinning
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Ugh! these last two posts

brought it all back... CONTROL FREAKS! PARANOID NUTJOBS! Disordered freak I was involved with kept tabs on me because he was so secretive. My life was a f-n open book and he had chunks of time that I was clueless about because he was stealthy, secretive and a HUGE LIAR. I wouldn't go back to anything like that for all the money on the planet. GOOD RIDDANCE! xoxo (not) spinning. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEND ALL THESE DISORDERED ONES ON A SPIN RIGHT OFF THE PLANET!

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