I have a question...

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#1 Nov 10 - 7PM
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I have a question...

Kind of just for the hell of it.

To the veteran members:

My EXN talked about maybe 4 exs and all with contempt and loathing, with the exception of one, "The Redhead".

Some how this woman escaped his wrath. Mind you, he didn't make her exceptional or anything, he would just say there was nothing wrong with her.

My question is, how or why did this one woman get away unscathed, based on your knowledge?

Thanks,
Ruby

Nov 11 - 6AM
ruby01 (not verified)
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Thanks everybody

A bunch of good answers. I thought maybe it was one of those standardized things N's do that I just didn't know the answer to, but I guess it's just more sick & twisted garbage! HAPPY FRIDAY!
Nov 11 - 4AM
lillymarch
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Because he's crazy!

Really, can we even begin to understand how these people work? Or why they do or say the things they do? I know it's a curious thing. I've tried to understand but my normal, down to earth, happy brain just can't do it. And I figure yours can't either. They are a curious bunch.
Nov 11 - 12AM
Done sourcing
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The redhead was Bozo the Clown!

He was looking in the mirror and saw his reflection. Narcs will say the weirdest things and then later say they didn't say it in the first place. Some are just sick. And some are sick and evil. Maybe she died during the idealization phase. Maybe she was deaf, dumb, and blind. Maybe she was a drag queen. Maybe it was Carrot-top! Maybe she still talks to him---the only one left that will. Don't let yourself forget they lie, cheat, and steal at will with no remorse! ds
Nov 10 - 10PM
meik11
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When dealing with a Narc you

When dealing with a Narc you have to ask yourself what if anything they tell you about themselves or their past is true except for what you can see with your own eyes. He probably wasn't telling you the truth about the "red head" or any of the other women... She could be someone he made up in his mind or someone he is targeting next. They are LIARS and will tell you anything to get the reaction from you they want.
Nov 10 - 9PM
dulcinea441
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Probably he never even got

Probably he never even got that close to her. She probably walked away very early on, leaving him with nothing but a complete fantasy image that never got sullied in his mind. He probably barely remembers anything about her besides superficial physical details. It makes him feel good to think that he had a "healthy" experience with at least one woman who didn't come to utterly despise him -- in truth, they probably only went out two or three times, and he has built it up and deluded himself into thinking that they had some sort of "relationship." Sounds like he doesn't even remember her name, actually.
Nov 10 - 8PM
Susan32
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Admiration... with some fear mixed in

He's probably scared of her. They're in awe of those they fear the most. After the final D&D, the ex-Psych went on a rambling little bit of nonsense about how I was supposed to admire&hate him. SIMULTANEOUSLY. It made my head ache, frankly. The ex-P was badmouthing me to his students, doing a smear campaign during the final D&D... but I think he was probably give his colleagues word salad-admiration, hatred, fear, so confusing one couldn't tell head from tail. At the time of the final D&D, I was reading "Anna Karenina",and the ex-P's perfect literary equivalent is the cerebral Narc Alexei Karenin. Alexei admires her... because she has the ability to leave him with deep narcissistic injuries. He has an emotional shell;he knows she can penetrate it. I think Ns/Ps admire those who don't buy their BS. I think your ex-N admires the Redhead because she didn't buy his bull... and she was probably the one who left him and went NC. Ns/Ps admire what they don't and can't have. If they have it, they don't want it. If they don't have it, they want it very badly.
Nov 10 - 8PM
empath
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idealization and the one that got away

I think they idealize a woman for a variety of reasons...to boost their ego and make it seem like they were good enough to have obtained a "catch" of that caliber, to triangulate us with the ghost of this "perfect" woman, exploiting our natural tendency to "compare" ourselves to the OW, even if the OW is nothing more than the N's mythological projection...and also so that they can feel the forlorn romantic hero with a broken heart, giving them some sort of justification for going around breaking hearts. It is not that they valued the OW, as they have objectified her just as much as they have objectified us. She remains a source of supply to him, in fulfilling this role he has created for her. Remember, Ns distort and rewrite history to better facilitate NS. They are misogynistic and maladaptive and do not think for a second that this this superficial expression ofwhat he says is the perfect woman, is really all there is to the story. If she were so perfect for him, she'd be with him now. You can be sure she has gone through her own personal hell in getting away from him and to make himself feel like less of a jerkoff and having to be honest with himself for how badly he knows he treated her, he will forever memorialize her as the one thst got away and the one that broke his heart. I had experienced this very vividly in a previous relationshit with another N, not the N that I am referring to in my posts.
Nov 10 - 9PM (Reply to #16)
dulcinea441
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Very interesting observation!

Excellent insight!
Nov 10 - 8PM (Reply to #12)
rosedewittbukater
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the one that got away

Empath wow you sure bring up some really interesting points and I think you are right on the money! In my case I was being compared to a dead woman...talk about a ghost!!
Nov 10 - 9PM (Reply to #13)
empath
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how convenient!

That motherfucking Narc of yours continues to extract supply even from a corpse!They take and take and take and when you have nothing left to give, they still take! Wow! How did she die, if you don't mind sharing? Using the dead woman who can tell no tales of what really happened and nd who is no longer available to be directly recycled, is just deplorable disgusting Narc behavior.
Nov 10 - 11PM (Reply to #14)
rosedewittbukater
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Empath

I was told she died during childbirth but honestly I don't know what to believe any more!
Nov 11 - 3AM (Reply to #15)
empath
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don't believe any of it

Died during childbirth...the ultimate feminine sacrifice, which automatically escalates you to being akin to a saint. I think you were being set up. Do lesbians experience Madonna-whore complexes too or was it just my ex-husband who had that?
Nov 10 - 7PM
Winter
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Ruby

I am not a veteran, but... One of the diagnosed narc who use to be my friend (only!) also had just one woman in his life that he would not talk with contempt. When she left him and went NC, he was miserable. He never said one wrong word about her. I think he actually "loved" her in his way. He said: "She is so independent and self-sufficient" Could that be an answer?
Nov 11 - 3AM (Reply to #10)
empath
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independent and self-sufficient

That translates to "a bitch I could not break" in misogynistic Narc speak. They love a challenge. Good for whomever she is, that she had enough sense to get away and go NC. I think his revelation to you of her "qualities" serves the purposes I mentioned earlier in this post. And the underlying motivation is to destabilize you and cause you to doubt yourself.
Nov 10 - 7PM (Reply to #8)
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Winter

I didn't sense he thought that much of her. My guess was that she was the only one that he actually dumped?
Nov 10 - 8PM (Reply to #9)
Winter
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Disordered...

they are and all their reactions to events and people are disordered and a total non-sense. Maybe in his case he "liked" her exactly because he did not "loved" her. Oh God! I would not even re-read what I wrote. Delirium! lol
Nov 10 - 7PM
onwithmylife
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Ruby01

mine had 4 previous relationships and spoke with contempt for wife#3, the rest not so much, but he had awe for this woman he was just friends with, she would not sleep with him many years ago but she told him she had had an abortion and he was so in awe of that, do not ask me why. she had a lot of influence over him for some weird reason and did not live in the same state as him. He had hatred of all women and scared as well.........
Nov 10 - 7PM
Layla
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He probably just made her up.

LOL! That's his fantasy perfect woman in his head all other women have to measure up to, you know, the one that doesn't even exist. Wasn't that Charlie Brown's crush? "The red haired girl"? Hahahaaa!!! love~ Layla http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Red-Haired_Girl
Nov 10 - 7PM (Reply to #2)
ruby01 (not verified)
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Layla

That's funny! He is Charlie Brown's twin. His ex's were: The Young One The Super Hot One The C-nt and, The Red Head NONE OF THEM had names
Nov 10 - 8PM (Reply to #3)
Layla
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Of course they don't have "names".........

These clowns are all mysogynists and hate women. We are just objects to them...kind of like: The chair The television The computer The teapot That's alright, my abuser is referred to as "The asshole". Hahhahaa!
Nov 10 - 9PM (Reply to #4)
freaked
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haha good one Layla! I guess

haha good one Layla! I guess my handle would be The Doormat? Thankfully, I am a real doormat...just a fake doormat..faking all this doormatting because i need some time for gathering together all the essential requirements for a grand exit(just being sarcastic regarding the creepy N.. my way of venting)
Nov 10 - 9PM (Reply to #5)
Layla
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You're not a doormat freaked.

You're a queen. Never forget that. love~ Layla