I don't know why this still hurts so bad..

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#1 Feb 5 - 9PM
titta22
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I don't know why this still hurts so bad..

My kids just came back from spending the day with my xN and the OW. They told me how they went to eat together. I don't know why but i had to go to another room and cry. I started to cry and i couldn't stop. I'm tired of feeling this way. I'm tired of hurting like this. I went to the library today and felt a little good and then i went to the mall but being at the mall brought back a memory of us and the kids bieng there and eating together like a family and that set me back. It seems like being places that we used to go with the kids are bringing back a lot of memories. I haven't been able to stop crying.

Feb 6 - 4PM
gettinbetter
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Well titta if I'm being

Well titta if I'm being honest you sounded like a woman scorned which I'm sure he loved. You gave him lots of supply as that exchange shows jealousy on your part about the other woman. They love the thought that more than one woman wants them even if it comes out in an angry exchange of texts messages. He knows he can get to you. What they can't stand is indifference that you don't care one way or another. From no on just keep it to yes and no answers and don't allow it to get personal with talk of the ow. Don't be nice don't be rude just be indifferent nothings gets to them more than the thought that they don't matter
Feb 6 - 4PM (Reply to #6)
titta22
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sick of it...

I know i know. But i honestly felt good getting that off my chest. Not that i care to do it again but i'm just tired of the remarks. What ever happened to " If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all." I did get out of the house all day so it must have done me some good to do so. I haven't been out ot the house in over a month unless it's for the kids or food.
Feb 6 - 4PM (Reply to #7)
gettinbetter
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The ex used to make me so

The ex used to make me so mad I would be shouting at him like a crazy woman and a lot of the time he would just stand there indifferent almost smiling. He loved it the crazier I acted the more he liked it of course as long as it didn't infringe on his plans then he would get pissed. Anyway I know its hard but don't feed him anymore! You just fed him a steak dinner. Starve him!
Feb 6 - 6PM (Reply to #8)
titta22
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sick of it...

I like how you put that!! I will starve him from now on. I actually feel good today so i will remember that next time. Thanks for your honesty. I will keep you in mind from now on.
Feb 6 - 6PM (Reply to #9)
gettinbetter
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Titta just dont react thats

Titta just dont react thats what feeds him positive or negative. Dont act mad dont act happy just act indifferent. It drives them crazy. Keep your answer as short as possible and make sure they dont have any emotional content. Stick to yes,no or OK when you can.
Feb 6 - 4PM
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Was i a BITCH?

Today didn't start off so good. Last night about 9pm he still hadn't brought back the kids so i texted him. Me:What time are you bringing them back? ExN:I'm bringing them back at 9:30pm. This is not an email, what happened to that rule? NO response from me.After he drops off the kids he texted me this ExN: 9:30 am tomorrow? ExN: Do you want them home by 6:30 tomorrow. I respond yes to all and nothing more. ExN:Ok thank you. I find this a little weird because he's been bringing the kids back to me on Sundays at 6:30 for the past 8 months. But i don't really think much of it. Today he texted me this and even though i'm not proud that i engaged in the text messages with him, i did some how feel a little better. Was i a bitch? YES i was and i'm ok with that.This is how the text messages went. ExN: If you don't mind can i skip today with them. There is a cold going around here and i don't want them to get sick. Can i just have them next sunday. Me:IF you can't get have them today that's fine but i have no intention in switching my Sunday with you. ExN: Why not? Me:because i have not interest in doing so when i have plans for us already. ExN: Ok but just remember there will come a day when you need something and i'm not going to have a problem not caring when that happens. Me:Oooh that sounds so scary! Are you picking them up or not? ExN:Hahahaha you're such a child. I don't want them to get sick so no. Me:Then don't text me stupid shit like that. I'm tired of your stupid remarks. Make sure and take good care of your OW. ExN: I'm tired of your stupidity, it's obnoxious at best. My concern is for them getting sick but you obviously care more about other things.I'll be there at 9:30. Me: I don't care for this shit. You should keep your comments to yourself then. Don't bother coming i already told the kids you weren't. I'm not doing this no/yes crap with you. Keep your comments to yourself then. ExN:You're a disgusting person and i can't wait to be divorced from you! Me:Yay!!! Looks to me like someone hasn't changed ; ) ExN:Hahahaha go look in the mirror my dear! Me: (yawn) Don't text me anymore. ExN:Ok not a problem. Happier without you regardless! Good day! Was i a bitch? Once again yes but i felt really good doing so because i realized that nothing he could throw at me could hurt me. Why would it? I've already seen the ugliest side of him. I felt good because i'm not going to just let him walk over me. Now i did not say anything to insult him as a person or to put him down. I just stated that i'm tired of his crap and i'm not going to put up with his shit anymore! But he has to no matter what get a low blow in there. Which is fine. I got ready and headed to church with my kids. I felt bad because my son was upset when i told him that his dad would not be picking them up because he said they were sick. My son says "That's not true. They were both fine yesterday. He's lying." We headed to church and i had to convince my son to join the kids room but he refused at first. Then he said he would if i would just walk him there. The preacher talked about forgiveness and how we need to forgive those who have hurt us. Wether it be a parent who was not there for us when we were little or if you married someone and loved them too much and they were not capable of doing the same for you. If your spouse cheated or hurt physically. That those of us who hold this pain and hatred in our hearts will only be miserable and it will bring you down. We must put all of the pain and the people who hurt us in a sack and close that sack and let the all mighty GOD deal with that. Because once we do we can allow love to enter our hearts and until them we will continue to be held down by the hate and the pain. I started to cry like a baby and i cried and cried and my friend and i went to the front of the church to say a special prayer for ourselves. She prayed for me. I prayed for my kids happiness to return and the preacher stood behind me and said a prayer for me. Which of course made me cry even more. When i sat down i felt a weight had been lifted off my shoulders and my kids came out of the childrens class and my son came running up to me with such a huge smile and told me how much he loved me and that his class was so much fun. He said he wanted to come back next Sunday and my daughter was just as happy. Something was lifted up from us and the rest of the day was so nice. We had lunch with my friend and then we went to her house to hang out with her and the kids remained happy the entire time. That in it self is a miracle because my son who is 7 has been in a really bad mood for the past month ever since his dad moved in with the OW. Did the day start off bad? Kind of but i made an effert to make it better for me and the kids. Forgiveness is something i will have to work hard on because in the long run it will only damage me to hold this inside. Have i sinned? Yes! When i really think about it my sin was to love a man too much to the point that i forgot myself in the process. I didn't stick up for my kids when he would bully them. I let my love and fear of loosing this person take over and rule my life. This cannot happen ever again. For i am just as important if not more than he is or ever will be. Because i am a women and a mother and my job is to make sure my kids feel loved no matter what. We are human and we all make mistakes but we must also forgive ourselves for our own mistakes. We need to love ourselves more!
Feb 6 - 3PM
Briseis
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Sick of it gave you some

Sick of it gave you some great advice here. That sentiment is almost always operating beneath the surface when there is an OW with whom the Narc (and god help you, the kids) are having "such a great time" with :( My addition is that you still have pockets of pure grief that will be triggered here and there. You will not cry and/or feel devastated out of the blue forever. Imagine it like this. Each time this grief (and anger, hurt, whatever) GRABS you like this, GET IT OUT. Get it out of you like lancing an abscess (ewww, sorry ). Get it all out. And let it heal. There will be a lot of these areas of infection during early recovery, but from personal experience, they are numbered, and as time goes by, you will find yourself being quite matter of fact when the kids come home. Get ready for them to come home with less and less "we had so much fun!" and more "Dad's GF was crying, Mom!!' and then "Dad broke up with his girlfriend!" and so on.
Feb 6 - 2PM
gettinbetter
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It hurts because you are

It hurts because you are afraid deep down inside that his behavior is somehow your fault and that if he goes on to be happy with her it will validate that. You just have to believe it wasn't your fault and I promise you it will be no different with her. I know this because my x now 20 years later is yet to have a successful relationship or even have one end on good terms now I will say some last longer than others depending on supply and what they have to offer but the end always comes and it doesn't come easy or nice and it won't for her either and while you are well into recovery she will be crying her eyes out jealous that you have moved on. My guess is that she will even reach out to you for comfort. I know its hard to believe but just you wait and you will see I'm right
Feb 6 - 1AM
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titta22

I don't know your story but I do have a child with my xN and is sucks sometimes (actually most of the time). I truly feel your pain, I really do. There is a lot of talk on the board about NC and this is not an option for those of us with kids because the N will always be in our lives. We share children and we hear so much through our children that is painful. We can only be NC so much as there are logistics and life to deal with when you have children with someone. To address your question, it hurts so bad because you wanted it to be normal and good and share your life with the father of your children. You are normal and it is devastating. You are normal and unfortunately he is not. He may look like he is, but he is not and I am sorry that you have to go through this. I have been there and I am currently there again. Just know that my thoughts and prayers are with you and though it may not feel like it sometimes you are in a better place without him. Hugs and Prayers...