getting over it

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#1 Sep 30 - 8PM
gettinbetter
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getting over it

The question that plaques all of us. When will I get over it? I have pondered this over and over for a about 6 or 8 months now. I think the answer is you never really "get over it" how do you get over someone singling you out so that they can destroy you from the inside out.? Nope I don't think you get over it.

I think what yoi do is get on with it. After however long it takes you to process it you simply start to get on with your life. You notice things little by little sometimes the improvements so microscopic no one really notices. In my case I continue to read about my codependency and try to be more aware of when I'm engaging in codependent behavior, My life is returning to normal. One year ago the discard began and I found myself locking myself ion the bathroom about every hour just so I could hide from my family and have a few minutes to cry.

So will I ever get over this? Hell no! You don't get over someone you loved and trusted brutally attacking you but your life doesn't stop and you eventually get on with it for some this happens quickly for others it takes a long while but it does eventually come for us all in time. Hopefully you have learned more abnout yorself during that time. I have learned more about myself than I ever wanted to know. Lol. Maybe that's why this was brought back into to my life so many years later.

Just my take on that question that we all continually ask ourselves

Oct 2 - 6PM
agnesmurphy17
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The Rape of the Mind

I often wonder how long to get over it. For me it was the rape of the mind. This man blew into my life like a knight in shining armor. Married me. Then he started the Dr. J/Mr. H back & forth routine. (Brainwashing techniques.) These men take dreams & hopes. He got me by exploiting my dream of a home and companionship. A shared lifestyle. And then he used that as the vehicle to exploit and abuse me. Can I ever trust again? Now I must say that I see personality disorders, emotional blackmail, manipulation, splitting, projection, lies & con-artists a mile off. But I am so deeply suspicious. And I am so afraid of being abused again.
Oct 2 - 1PM
uk lady
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Absolutely Gettinbetter

And from what we have learnt we become more aware of US and any issues we may have from the past that we have chosen to bury or not visit. So ultimately its make us more aware of our feelings and where we never want to go again. So, in essence, we have something for our ex-P/N to be thankful for. They gave us the realisation of our situation. Co-dependency is a behaviour that has been taught and learnt and one which can be fixed with realisation and focus from our side on US. It's not a random gene so celebrate that - go forward with more awareness of this and prove to yourself that you are better than what was taught to you in your childhood. It needs work but I am evidence that it can be done and forgiveness to those who taught us because they knew no better. Celebrate yourself and your new found knowledge to make your future better and happiness for YOU. Dee x
Oct 2 - 4PM (Reply to #30)
gettinbetter
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Yeah how ironic that he ended

Yeah how ironic that he ended up giving me that gift with his departure.:)
Oct 1 - 9PM
FINALLYFREE2BME
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Chiming In...

I haven't been posting much lately (not that I usually do anyway LOL!) But being 5 years n/c IMHO, I think you never fully get over it. You learn to integrate it into your life history and move on. The fact that we can feel fully over the N and then be pulled back years or decades later (even knowing what he/she is) shows that the addiction isn't gone, it's in remission - sort of like cancer. (Of course I can't speak for everyone... just my take on it)
Oct 3 - 4PM (Reply to #28)
Susan32
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Cancer analogy

Great analogy! I agree that dealing with Ns/Ps is like dealing with cancer--not the terminal type, but that it's something that can be managed with NC,a good diet, a healthy lifestyle. There are triggers, it can flare up... but it can be managed. Being "over it" means one knows what one is dealing with. Not the same as pretending it didn't happen (I've tried it, doesn't work)
Oct 2 - 4PM (Reply to #26)
gettinbetter
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Nope we will never get over

Nope we will never get over this or atleast I wont. I didnt "get over" this 15 years ago and Im not gonna "get over it" I dont really see how you can but atleast it has a name and I know why it happened but NO Im not gonna get over it but I am going to go on with my life. You may not talk about as much as time goes on but you never forget it. Never.
Oct 3 - 4PM (Reply to #27)
FINALLYFREE2BME
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Gettinbetter

Having similar stories with long term NC, I'm so glad we see it the same way. Sometimes I think people just think I'm weak or (worse yet) still in love with the N! IMHO, being healed means you have accepted the disorder, moved on with your life, and have the strength to manage the addiction and never act on it again, no matter what the N does or doesn't do. But will I ever be "over it"? Nope. And that's okay.
Oct 1 - 1PM
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Remember the Rats

The rat experiment where rats are trained that if they pull the lever that they get food. And then some of the rats are consistently given a shock, and they quit pulling hte lever. And other rats are given randomly alternating shocks and food. And those rats go into a frenzy of pulling the lever - even when there is food all over the floor that they aren't eating. I find that fascinating - and too true - and I really don't want to be a rat. Thank you very much. And I also keep remembering that he isn't real. Nothing he says can be believed. He will use my confidences against me. He will tell intimate details of our sex life if he thinks it is useful to him. He secretely recorded us having sex and threatened to post it on the internet. He isn't trustworthy - he is a stalker wearing different disguises. He ISN'T real. He's fake. Pinocchio. Not a real boy. And I don't want to be a rat.
Oct 1 - 9AM
Trulybroken
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We get over it when we

We get over it when we realize it wasn`t personal We get over it when we make healthier choices in life We get over it when we stop talking about it and giving it so much power We get over it when we stop coming to web sites and read up on N`s and stop posting about it We get over it when we use all this energy to create a great life for ourselves I left my ex a yr ago, I was in so much pain and read and read and talked and posted and read etc. Then 6 months into it, I finally cut contact with him off, stopped coming to any msg boards, stop reading up on everything associated with N`s, I stopped any and all dipping and within 4 weeks, I felt like a new person. Sure, I still thought about him, hurt and was sickened by it all, but was feeling awesome. Met new people, met a new guy (nothing serious) and was just out having fun. Then like a moth, I brought my ex back into my life in June. Doh, now I am starting this pain in the ass process all over again. I`ll read here to remind myself why I left this loser in the first place and have dipped a little, but I`ll soon be gone from here and anything relating to my pain. Because I get to the point where I've given someone enough of my power and then I take it back. When you've decided you want your power back, that's when you will be over this. No N is worth all the damage they cause. To feel sad and wallow (like I've done many times) is a suckier place to be that even with these creeps. I got over an 11 yr relationship where my ex left me for someone with hiv, we lost the house, our business and the man I loved for a long time and I allowed that to take 4 months of my life and I woke up one day and said "he's taken so much from me, he takes no more" and I started to heal. Make the choice to take your power back......it comes, I promise!
Oct 3 - 9AM (Reply to #23)
Layla
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Recovery sites

"We get over it when we stop coming to web sites and read up on N`s and stop posting about it" Total recovery from this takes about 18 months, on AVERAGE. Continuing to remind ourselves of the absolute DANGERS of these creatures by coming to these sites is far HEALTHIER than allowing them back into our lives...just because someone comes back for re-enforcement doesn't mean they haven't "gotten over it"...... Just my humble opinion, of course. love~ Layla
Oct 1 - 9AM
faithinthefuture
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"My life is returning to normal"

What a wonderful statement! Our lives will be forever changed by our experience with the N. I think we will carry this with us until we die. I am more in tune to my feelings than I have ever been. I hear & LISTEN to my instincts. I even feel more empathetic towards people but I am no longer afraid to say how I feel for fear of hurting someone with words they don't want to hear. I am stronger and wiser. I am taking this experience and turning it around to see the good in why it happened.
Sep 30 - 10PM
Sparrow
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Never............we will

Never............we will carry this with us always. Maybe deep in the back of our souls, but we will indeed carry it forever. As we should.
Sep 30 - 10PM
alittledark
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You are right GB...you don't get over it

I'm still working through it and like you say there are those moments when you have to lock yourself away from family for some good crying time. (and some time alone time with God) NC and staying busy have moved me forward. Thanks GB for this post.

I do not want the peace which passeth understanding, I want the understanding which bringeth peace.
--Helen Keller

Sep 30 - 9PM
Sherbear
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GB

This is so beautiful. Thank you for this post and insight. xoxo Sherry
Sep 30 - 9PM
gettinbetter
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I really shouldn't type on my

I really shouldn't type on my phone especially now that I'm in my 40 s and apparently can't see. Sorry for the typos bit you get the idea.
Sep 30 - 9PM (Reply to #2)
Swan
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This brings up a point that

This brings up a point that has been bothering me since early this morning when I saw someone saying on some tv program that "God puts you in the situations He wants you to be in for a reason" I am finding it hard to digest why God would want me to be abused so badly, so severely damaged by this man, and almost certainly could have been abused to death by this man!?!? Can anybody bring some perspective here??
Sep 30 - 10PM (Reply to #13)
Sunafterrain
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Swan

What you're missing is that God doesn't interfere with the free will of man. I don't believe that God puts us in situations where we are abused. The predator lures us (evil) and we follow. that's it. I believe God is always there with us, but we have to look to Him for guidance when we're ready. If you believe in the concept of good, you have to believe that there is also evil. So God takes what was evil, and blesses us abundantly when we use our free will to walk out of it and stay on the path He has for us. HUGS
Sep 30 - 11PM (Reply to #14)
freaked
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OMENS were sent to me

God did His best to WARN me. 1.My wedding Rind did not arrive on time. Bad Omen. 2.after the marriage, NH's wedding ring just slipped out and fell ..Bad Omen. 3.My wallet got pickpocketed in a public transport 4 days after my 'engagement' to NtbH..Bad Omen 4. 5. 6. ..... at least upto 150 Bad Omens kept happening in quick succession .. and i was already into the 10th anniversary when NH wanted a divorce and i begged for mercy because HE CHEATED ON ME BRAZENLY..i was a fool, yes; but also I had been stripped of every penny and every means of self support. in retrospect i think God really and seriously WARNED me. but the guy was such a terrific guy...or so i was delusioned...that i chose to ignore the Messages.
Oct 1 - 12PM (Reply to #15)
Susan32
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Bad omens

When God speaks to us, we can't always tell that it's HIM speaking. It can easily be written off as coincidence. Okay, mistakes and accidents happen... but does that mean God is warning us? Hindsight tends to be 20/20... at the time, what happened with your wallet and the wedding rings looked like little accidents. Don't be too hard on yourself. God still loves you;He is compassionate that at the time, you just couldn't tell it was Him. Your "delusions",when reflecting on them, were pretty innocent. You were in love, you thought you were being loved. You weren't the one engaging in betrayal&deception... that fault lies on your husband. You were the deceived;your husband was the deceiver. God is A LOT harsher on those who deceive&lead others astray.
Oct 1 - 12PM (Reply to #16)
freaked
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thanks susan32

thanks for your kind words Susan32. Bless you.
Oct 1 - 1PM (Reply to #17)
Susan32
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Bless you too!

I hope everything is going well with you. Overlooking bad omens is natural when we see the good in others (even if it isn't there) We WANT to believe everyone is decent, moral, empathetic. There's nothing bad or wrong with that. I overlooked bad omens with the ex-Psych prof;his COLLEAGUES warned me about him... including a fellow prof who I think was his ex-boyfriend. They told me "don't listen to him" and "don't get (sexually/romantically) involved with him." For a time, I didn't listen. I didn't even listen to my own gut! All the bad omens were right in front of me... the ONLY person who stopped me from getting sexually/romantically/maritally involved with the ex-P was his girlfriend who moved in with him from LA. Really. If it hadn't been for her, I probably would've taken the bait. I was that far gone. I know my weaknesses. If it hadn't been for his girlfriend, I'd probably be Mrs. T--, had sex with him, had his babies. But God got EPIC and put a stop to it. As one of my friends said at the time, God wasn't speaking in the still, small voice as He had with the prophet Elijah.... when the girlfriend arrived, that was God SHOUTING. Overlooking red flags is natural. It doesn't make one a bad or foolish person... it simply means one has a positive outlook&sees the best in others. Projecting positivity is better than projecting negativity.
Sep 30 - 11PM (Reply to #11)
gettinbetter
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For everyone the answer is

For everyone the answer is different but rest assured in your life time it will be revealed to you. It was revealed to me 15 years later. If anyone would have ever told me that I would become involved with this man again, I would have said no freakin way. I had something very painful happen during my first relationship with him. Its something that I felt to blame for unconciously and consciously at times for 15 years. I always thought of this man as the love of my life. I no longer blame myself. I have answers to why it all happened the way it did all those years ago. I now know he wasn't the love of my life and there wasn't something inherently wrong that made me unlovable to him. I have also learned that I have some unhealthy patterns of relating to others and how I derive my self worth which I believe has been the root of my anxiety issues the last 15 years. I don't know that I would have discovered any of these things had this not happened to me. Sometimes God takes you back to the scene of the crime so you can heal the wound. With all that said and the introspection done, I realize that my daughter is gonna get up and want her breakfast that I have a job and career where people expect me to show up that someone is or something will cause me to break into a big ol belly laugh that I'm gonna be irritated by all the laundry that has to bedone and the list goes on. Yep it all goes on. I will never get over it but I am gettin on with it You just have to trust that at some point in your life it will be revealed to you.
Sep 30 - 11PM (Reply to #12)
freaked
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quite same is my own

quite same is my own story. GB, I am waiting for the day when I can post at this forum that finally I have gone NC. then, i will be here to help the newcomers to heal. once when i was 10 yr old, a gypsy crystal ball gazer told my mother that one day i would be a Healer.. i thought..oh i would never be a doctor as i really cannot handle sickness.. but now i understand that a Healer is someone very different from a medical doctor.
Sep 30 - 9PM (Reply to #6)
Sherbear
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For me...

it's b/c HE knew I was in a downward spiral and if something drastic didn't happen, I would end up dying by a narc. HE needed my heart to be ripped wide open so that HE could come in and heal me. Ezekial 11:17 says He will take out my heart of stone and replace with a heart of flesh, one that is sensitive to HIM. My heart really was being ripped out of my chest....It was a heart transplant. What better way to get me on my knees then by putting my first love back into my life....it was easy, I let him right in and succumbed to his poison. I have had narcs all through out my life and I am a big ole codependent and those issues had to be dealt plus so much more. I chose to believe that God would never leave and that all my tears were being molded into something beautiful, something promising, someething fruitful. Whenever I found myself saying negatives things I would change my language. Noone loves me...that's not true, God loves me. I am alone, that's not true, God is always with me. I can't do this...that's not true, I can do all things through Christ. (You get the idea).... I watched tons of Joyce Meyer videos. I know this is so hard, but God is doing this to save you from a life of pain and misery and abuse. NArcs are so evil. Choose to believe that God has a plan for you b/c HE does. I am praying for you. Love, Sherry
Sep 30 - 11PM (Reply to #7)
freaked
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gettinbetter, sherbear

Thanks very much for your posts. So many Messages coming in today showing that God is Listening to us souls. :::Whenever I found myself saying negatives things I would change my language. Noone loves me...that's not true, God loves me. I am alone, that's not true, God is always with me. I can't do this...that's not true, I can do all things through Christ. (You get the idea)....::: Sherbear, thank you so much for this post. Thank you for your prayer. I too am praying for all my beautiful sisters and brothers here. ONLY GOD WILL DELIVER US FROM THIS EVIL. I will have Faith in God from now on..a genuine Faith i shall develop.
Oct 1 - 8AM (Reply to #8)
Sherbear
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You're welcome Freaked

Yes, I believe my faith and trust in God is ultimately what has pulled me throug this nightmare. I had to believe that He would not put me into this with out giving the strength to pull myself out of it. It is written that God will give you double for your former trouble...if you do what you can do, God will take care of the rest. I don't think He takes too kindly to someone purposely stalking and attacking and abusing HIS children in God's name. (Which is what mine did....saying that I was God's gift to him and God this and God that.) I think my narc has areckoning and somedays I pray God's wrath strikes down upon him and others I jsut wish us all peace. I pray that God's will be done. Yes I blieve God has all of us in the palm of His hand....surrender to Him and He will heal us and bless us more than we could ever hope or imagine.
Oct 1 - 9AM (Reply to #9)
gettinbetter
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Yep Sherbear they appear to

Yep Sherbear they appear to get what they want in their earthly life however our earthly life is but a small window of time. They live their life on credit. They never even make the minimum payment. Come judgement day God is going to call the loan
Oct 1 - 1PM (Reply to #10)
Hunter
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Great thread!! Love the

Great thread!! Love the credit comment!! Hunter
Sep 30 - 9PM (Reply to #3)
freaked
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Gettinbetter and Swan, your

Gettinbetter and Swan, your views are helpful. Yes, now it is time we get out of victim mode and understand that we were innocent travellers who got mugged on the highway by a skilled conman. we were travelling, than a stranger joins us for a coffee, and then the stranger offers us a ride in his shiny new grand car..and we unsuspectingly accept the offer...because in the preceding 60 minutes, the stranger has done nothing to raise our hackles. Ok, we got MUGGED. Each one of us who are here got mugged in quite the same way. But we have to try and wean ourself out of feeling self pity. because self pity is undermining our strength by being the mugger's proxy. Swan, i too have thought and thought and thought as to why God put us innocent people into this horrendous pain. I have no answer right now, but i am still searching. i thought instead of searching for an answer i will pray to God to send protection and give me and my child the strength to fight this evil .. and survive the battle in good shape. once the mask slips...OMG it is frightening
Oct 1 - 6AM (Reply to #4)
Swan
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I love this

reframing of the negative thoughts into positive ones. Yes, I am all alone on this earth, but God walks with me. Yes I have no one to talk to but God and he does listen. I know that He has been there for me-who else has the power to save me in the eleventh hour? Multiple times? I just have to keep reminding myself of that. I think I will make my new mantra around those thoughts... Swan