Feeling inadequate.

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#1 Apr 19 - 9AM
whatever2009
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Feeling inadequate.

Hello ladies,

Its been a while, since I actually felt anything, Ive been pretty numb and pretty angry. More so with myself. Ive been narc free for almost 4 months now. He has called a few times and ive ignored him. However as I am best friends with his cousin so Ive seen him a few times. My therapist told me to treat the relationship as if we shared a child, "ignore him, go about your business, zero attention" Which I have done pretty well.

However, just recently things have started bothering me, I have read so much and trust me I know the answers, I guess Im just venting and looking for a little encouragement.

He has new supply, a few of them from what I understand, and I dont know why but its making me ill. I have read "now he's happier with her" about 100 times. So
I know at some point, these women will become me.

However I cannot shake the inadequate feeling, the feeling of not trusting my gut long ago and leaving, the loving someone who is so horrible. Being told so many times
to walk away and thinking I could be the one who makes him change. IM SUCH AN IDIOT. I wish the thoughts of him would go away, the picturing him having sex with someone else would go away, and the thoughts that I failed myself will stop.

Im having a horrible day my thoughts are consuming me, I have no one to talk to today, so im posting here.

Thanks ladies.

Apr 22 - 12PM
narcnarcwhosthere (not verified)
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don't let yourself fall into that trap!!

that bastard is the one who is totally INADEQUATE...he cannot function in this world in any realy meaningful way....pounding that into my own head daily for 17 years is what kept me alive......'it's NOT me....it's HIM'....no matter what he said...or anyone else said....i chanted that mantra daily....because i knew it was the truth.....
Apr 21 - 9AM
whatever2009
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It NEVER ends...

Thanks Ladies, I think recovery would be impossible without this forum. They are quite the interesting species. The manage to make us all feel the same. Which is horrible. Mine sent me a letter today, it said this. (he's resorted to letters, as email is blocked and my phone # has changed) I guess I shouldnt have read it, but at the same time I dont feel anything. Not bad, not sad, really nothing, I laughed when I got it!!!! " You mean the world to me and I will love you forever. Im so lucky to have met you and wanted to thank you for your support over the years, I didnt want to upset you with this letter, I just wanted you to know how much I appreciate you" PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! What a jerk, I have no time for this or any other ploy, im actually insulted. Anyway, thought you could all use a laugh!!!
Apr 21 - 1PM (Reply to #22)
Barbara (not verified)
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next time

RETURN TO SENDER - DELIVERY REFUSED ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 21 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
The Girlfriend ...
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Way to GO!!!

Stay strong and remain NC...no matter what he does!...It would be a huge step backwards to ever break NC, ( I know as I am the 'poster girl' for making this mistake)...you have passed a number of his manipulative 'tests' attempts to drag you back into his sick world...and you have been so strong this far!!! YAAAAYYY!!!...and obviously your self-esteem and dignity is returning...this is exactly the time they REALLY start to manipulate and want to re-engage you...because they cannot stand that you shut them out and are happy without them!!! You GO girl! You will get beyond this time...and you have a much healthier/happier future ahead of you without him... ...Forget love - I'd rather fall in chocolate! :-)
Apr 20 - 8AM
Barbara (not verified)
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it's not your fault

You are NOT an Idiot!!! You had no idea he wasn't human... now you do and now you're gone. I myself still struggle with how something can be so "close & intimate" with someone - then just up and walk away forever... as if you don't even exist! As if we are nothing! I will never get that. Ever. again - you are NOT an Idiot! ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 20 - 8AM
angela0714
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you're not alone

Remember how bad he made you feel. Remember when you were with him, how many times you wished you could just get away from him and his cruel ways. These memories go on the back burner when they're with someone new. Believe me, he will do the same with her. Then even the sex doesn't matter...because at every other time in your relationship, he'll make you feel like dirt. It is natural for us to blame ourselves and ignore our gut, because we want so much to love these men and have them love us back. We also think that we'll be the ONE to show him love like he's never known and be able to free himself of his demons and fears. But we can't. The deficit is not within yourself, because you have the ability to love. He doesn't. People are things to be used and discarded at will. When you come on this board, you are never alone. It has helped me thru many hard times when I was tempted to pick up the phone and call him. Something I knew I'd regret. You deserve someone who has the capacity to love you back. Only time and treating yourself well, can do that for you. He will go on to hurt many more women. Learn from this experience so that it's not in vain. I have done this, although 7 months ago I didn't view it that way. I will never ever let a man or anyone else treat me like I am less than them. These guys aren't good enough to shine our shoes!
Apr 19 - 4PM
gullablegull (not verified)
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Just like you

You sound like you just want confirmation ...and we can all give you that. I too, most all of us, do or at some point have shared that cognitive dissonance..the self blame, not trusting our choices, wondering why we still care sometimes... I don't think it's necessarily the N's or P's that we yearn for so much, as much as it is we miss the companionship, the friend, someone being there for us, in my case, a provider...and the relationship we THOUGHT we had! Even though I was a "Madonna", I still miss the strong arms that would sometmes hold me... I do have two sons, and he has left us in horrific emotional and financial devastation! Bad enough he has broken my heart, but the guilt is overwhelming that I have when it comes to the kids. They didn't deserve this, nor did I...but it's from MY bad choices! Sure, I was conned...but that somehow doesn't make me feel any better. It just confirms that I feel ever so stupid over it! You sound so stable, so insightful, so grounded. I would suggest not seeing him at all. You can still be best friends with the cousin, but I think seeing him is what is making you miss him, and resent that he is with other "victims". Remember, that's all they are. Victims. Be glad that soon you can overcome that title, and move on to a loving healthy relationship.............I think you will. God bless.
Apr 19 - 2PM
TexN (not verified)
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Whatever

I know exactly how u feel! Every single emotion you are feeling, we have all felt! The whole "pretending" to be someone that he's not makes me want to scream, "He's nothing but a fake!" i hate to keep saying this cos you all are going to think i don't love my daughter, i really do but God i wish i hadn't gotten pregnant by the N! He has not only hurt me & her brothers, he hurts her by not being able to even be a part time father! I wish she could forget him! Anyway, didn't mean to get off track, just be glad no children were involved cos that hurts worse!
Apr 19 - 11AM
aceonelady
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whatever2009...

Feeling the same here ...my ex N is NC on me,for about a month now i did initiated 2 months ago but i couldn"t keep it so he played with me for a while troughth phone,and now is NC...At least you know he has new supply,mine will not say anything about his life,i can only imagine and it is killing me.....the only thing he told me and then turned around and said no,i was just messing up with your head is that he was wanting and wandering how would it be to be with a man....and that he was skipping with some people here and there....and i saw him suddenly go online onSkype which he just used to talk with me and he told me he was talking with a woman that was just like me,only not crazy as me....he called me a power rabbit,a loser and that i should be commited into an asylum...that he was having cyber sex and that he was going to meet some people when they felt they were ready....and then said he never said any of this and that he didn't know what i was talking about....I am tired and i regret i didn't keep NC,now i am worst than ever....and he dumped me ayear and 4 months ago,i left because i thought i would feel better but i am in pretty bad shape,but i will keep NC now even if he would contact me....NEVER AGAIN,IS OVER WITH THIS CREATURE...But he is still in my head....Iwant it to Stop

Aceonelady

Apr 19 - 11AM (Reply to #13)
woundedsoul36
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you know...I still can't

you know...I still can't believe sometimes how unbearably COLD HEARTED these pricks are..despite everything I know now. SMH. After I confronted my N...he withrew and has been gone for about 3 months now... I have received a text here there, usually every sunday... he's just trying to throw me bread crumbs to fuck with my head incase he needs to come back for some NS or money.. it seriously makes me want to vomit. I can only imagine what he is doing...mine is a cerebral but I bet he has morphed into somatic mode to hunt some prey.. or is hiding in his cave of self loathing, licking his narcissistic wounds sucking NS out of inanimate objects and photos.. He wants me to wonder what he doing until I am sick, he wants me to break down and contact him...only to not respond& so he can get every sadistic drop of grandiosity out of the fact that "he made me crawl back...he IS SUPERIOR"... but I have held firm because I know he is just waiting until i crack and that will be the ultimate high for him *I need a shower now*
Apr 19 - 7PM (Reply to #14)
loveofmylife
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Little things

And it is the little things that are driving me crazy now. Those little, suddle ways that they still find to control us and make sure they are superior. Mine called me this weekend and talked for about an hour helping me with business. And of course, the normal laughing/I'm so happy stuff. At the close of the call, he suggested we talk again on Sunday. I called him Sunday and he didn't pick up or call back. He emails me Monday morning and says "if you still want to talk, you can call me this am" Mostly done to: a. make me wonder what he was doing all day Sunday that he couldn't return my call when we had scheduled one. b. make me call him on Monday if I wanted to talk. Mind games are amazing.
Apr 19 - 10PM (Reply to #15)
Barbara (not verified)
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loveofmylife

N O C O N T A C T ~~~~~~~~~ Moving Forward: Coaching for Victims Pathologicals Feelings buried alive never die. - Alice Miller
Apr 19 - 10AM
Kelly
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I'm glad you wrote this

I've been feeling so stupid. The same way. I know I would never go back to him, but through fb, (he's showing off his gf,) and I can't help but feel like garbage sometimes. He didn't announce our relationship on fb and never introduced me to any of his friends or family. He was leading me on to believe that I was the most amazing thing that ever happened to him though and told me he was telling his family all about me. I really believed that my prayers have finally been answered and that he was the one. That "I am good enough to be in a relationship with a sexy, intelligent man of my dreams!" He dumped me like a hot potato. D&D'd me over the phone quite suddenly and disappeared. A month later, he announces his new gf on fb. A first year law student at his school. He's a third year. He met me online and told me he doesn't see himself marrying a lawyer. She looks like a perfect picture of the exact opposite of me and exactly what he described when he was D&Ding me. A young Ashkenazi Jewish girl, probably a virgin from a higher socio-economic background and she's a law student who is probably way more articulate than I am. She's also on campus with him, so he doesn't have to make too much of an effort to see her. Why do I care? Why are the thoughts of them together consuming me? Aside from the fact that he's mentally ill, he's a pampered man-child who has never proven himself to be able to survive in this world without his parent's money and he's a racist. I actually feel bad for the girl he's with because if she is still with him and if he did profile her for marriage, she has no idea the pain and hell she is going to go through. Within the six weeks of being with him, he was already showing me signs that he is extremely controlling and emotionally abusive. I feel inadequate. All of the insecurities I had . . he made me feel like he appreciated me more for my flaws and was so intensely attracted to me. I felt so special and then WHAM! He slaps me in the face with all my "flaws" and jumps into a longer relationship with a girl who has the things I don't have. I know that I need to appreciate myself for the things I do have and recognize that he was attracted to me from the beginning because I'm awesome. That he dumped me because I'm smart and asked questions he did not want to answer. I did too much digging and he was terrified of me. He felt "something" he couldn't describe and it scared the s#$% out of him so in true narc fashion, he raged at me and threw me out. Maybe I'm paranoid and narcissistic myself, but I also happen to believe that he is using her as a prop on fb to get at me (and possibly other girls he wants to frustrate.) Most people don't disclose their relationship status and wall posts to everyone settings on fb. Usually, people use their privacy settings to hide that kind of personal info. I had deleted him from my fb account after the breakup and (maybe I'm nutz) but I think he set it up so that if I ever did a search for him, I would see it. Also, with the bf I had two years ago, I think he used me to show off to his family. I think my last exN/psycho is doing the same with his gf. I struggle with my insecurities and my self-esteem anyway. These guys are so ruthless. They just use all your weaknesses to hurt you. As much as I am capable of recognizing it for what it is - and at this point, I could probably educate some psychologists of about narcissism and psychopathy - I'm still reeling from the hurt. Everyday is a struggle to stay motivated and keep moving forward. I've pretty much lost all faith in men. It's going to take a lot of time and kindness to myself to get over this. I was with him for only six weeks, but I had a string of narcs and abusers over the past 4 years. I have been NC with him for a little over five months. I wish you luck in your journey toward healing.
Apr 20 - 6PM (Reply to #2)
Tiredofthinking
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Reading all of these posts

Reading all of these posts help me feel more normal. I begin to feel so obsessed for thinking about things so much. The feeling of being inadequate is unbearable. I feel like I knew who I was before. I am a stable, caring, independent woman,( all of these things were things that he supposedly liked about me) and now I question all of those things all of the time. He would tell me that I was beautiful to the point that I had to tell him to stop because he was embarrassing me. Because I know that they are fake people I now wonder if he ever really saw these qualities and I have no self esteem. I don't even know why I am hanging my self esttem on him. I can't understand how I let this happen. I had many signs but I chose to ignore them and decided to let myself fall for this douchebag who literally disguarded me in the blink of an eye.Sweet talk in the morning and never spoken to again by night
Apr 20 - 10PM (Reply to #9)
Kelly
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It could have been me who wrote that

It's truly truly astounding how alike we all are and how alike our N's were. . . These N's are sadistic. Truly truly inhuman sadists. Blood sucking, soul sucking vampires. We are all beautiful. You are beautiful, charming and wonderful! Do something good for yourself every day. Today, I treated myself to a nice haircut/conditioning treatment with a nice massage.
Apr 21 - 1PM (Reply to #11)
destiny (not verified)
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narcmagnent I wonder if we

narcmagnent I wonder if we went out with the same Narc- Mine also never introduced me to his friends or family. Not even those in his support group for an chornic physical illness we both shared(I still to this day find that odd) In the beginning he did 'show me off' but not ever announce publicly on a FB or myspace about a girlfriend. but now he annouces this new woman as his gf...and makes it as if they are this cute little family already. thing is with these creeps... dont normal people wonder how he dumped me and then was with this new woman weeks later?? No matter how evil he said I was... I would think that would show some how he really did not care at all about me. I never will get how easily it was for him to move on this time around... my only guess is his ego couldnt handle all that he did to me..and what how I remind him of his past and the OW and all the hurt..he caused all of us. So, he left me when I needed him the most- knowing full well that he was my only source of support. one thing he was correct when he said one day I would hate him... yea Narc one day when I found out you cheated on me with your new woman. Im sure the next annoucement he makes about her will be he is engaged. but yet couldnt do that with me “It's not hard to find the truth. What is hard is not to run away from it once you have found it.”
Apr 21 - 12PM (Reply to #10)
Tiredofthinking
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narcmagnet

I agree. It's like they're made from the same distorted mold.LOL. I'm glad that I found you girls because my friends are very understanding but I know that they wonder why I still think of him..but until it happens to you ..you can't really understand.
Apr 20 - 7PM (Reply to #3)
woundedsoul36
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Tiredofthinking...

Dont be hard on yourself honey. ITS NOT YOU. HE WAS THAT GOOD...they are THAT good...its what they do and have practiced their whole lives...they live to deceive , hoodwink and manipulate GOOD people We ALL fell for it, their families have fallen for it.. I know it's hard to understand that it happened to you, we've felt the same way but really...any normal, loving, compassionate person would of fallen for it... that's why they target us
Apr 20 - 9PM (Reply to #4)
Tiredofthinking
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woundedsoul36

Thank you for that.I am working on trying not to blame myself so much. With my ex N ..the last night that I saw him he was very very cold to me ( saying comments that flew just under the radar of being blatantly nasty, would give me his cheek when I asked for a kiss, throwing a ball in the air to "try" and stay awake and I stuck up for myself like I should have by leaving the house angry( didn't yell, just stormed out) and I thought to myself, " I'm done..no more" but somehow all the fake good times and affection came back into my head and then I tried to rationalize his behavior and call him to talk it out where he began to block me out completely. He cut me off. I assume that he could't handle the fact that I walked out on him or that was what he wanted me to do in the first place. Either way, I am mad that I tried to go back for more even when I knew it was wrong and i thought I was done.
Apr 20 - 10PM (Reply to #5)
loveofmylife
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tiredofthinking

I've gone through all of these same emotions and he reacted in all the same ways. It is freaky how cookie-cutter their bizarre reactions are.....how completely cold they can be when you've shared a lifetime. And it as if they are proud of themselves for not being "weak" and feeling any emotions at all in reaction to a long term falling out or breakup. It is an "oh well....on to the next one!" And then you start backpedalling thinking they were right about everything and you were 100% wrong and maybe they weren't so awful anyway, and gosh we had some amazing times, and I really want that back, and maybe I should try to reconcile this one more time, and why did he act that way, is is something I did? and what if I acted different this time. But I have learned that they don't want to talk it out. They don't want to understand what happened. Because coming to an understanding of what happened would mean that they would have to face the fact that maybe they were out of line on some things and maybe they would have to make some corrections (just like a I would expect myself to make some corrections). It is too much trouble for them to fix something... and it would be admitting they were wrong - so they would rather move on. Having conflict means that this relationship is no longer their fantasy "perfect love" and they are still looking for "perfect love" But it gets down to the fact that we are 100% disposable and will never be good enough. But...guess what....no one will ever be good enough. And they will keep looking and looking for perfect love that has no conflicts that need to be resolved.
Apr 21 - 1PM (Reply to #6)
Tiredofthinking
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loveofmylife

Backpedaling..That's exactly it..I KNOW that I did nothing wrong and I still can manage to twist my brain into thinking that I did...down to even the most ridiculous things like maybe I shouldn't have worn that or maybe I shouldn't have stormed out, thinking that maybe I was too sensitive and tried to speak to him then. But then I think to myself how stupid it would be to even want to be with a person like that. I have never been this insecure but then again I never met anyone like that before. He left me feeling soooo confused that maybe 1 month later I wrote him a letter telling him what he meant to me..and got no response and then maybe 1 month after that finally reached him where he was trying to say that he stayed away for my benefit and that I was out of his league. Now I know that he just wanted me to lift him up with my words which I ofcourse did. He wouldn't even meet with me in person to discuss anything. He told me that he was thinking of getting his ex back( who had gotten very sick over him and I believe he said that she a nervous breakdown over their breakup)..which I now understand.he had once told me that she was a disaster ( don't know why I believed him)He would say all these things about her and how she couldn't be in his future because she wasn't good enough(but sexually she was) and that he did see me in his future but I was too good and that he meant everything that he ever said to me. I was more confused than ever..He always spoke in circles. I guess he is like Goldie Locks...He's waiting for that one that's juuuuusssst right....DICK
Apr 21 - 8PM (Reply to #7)
loveofmylife
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tiredofthinking

And I love your name tiredofthinking...that's how I feel too. I have probably literally spent 500 hours of the last 20 years trying to understand things, trying to figure out what I should say, trying to figure out what he really meant by something, trying to figure out what I should do different next time. I've never had to think about a relationship sooooooo much. And it doesn't make a difference; nothing ever changes. Now that I read your thing, i almost wonder if it was the same guy! :) god they are so much the same. I was too good for him although he wishes we had a life together, but no one else was good enough (but sexually they were just fine). I wrote him letters letting him know what he meant to me....he never responded. Mine ALWAYS speaks in circles, double meaning, mixed messages. It took all of my energy to try to decode everything. But he is actually one of the most brilliant and straightforward persons I've ever met. But then I always think - well of course he can't talk straight to me about how he feels about me - I AM MARRIED! And he is very sensitive to that. But god, its confusing. And since the email incident, I realize that he talks in circles, mixed messages, double meaning with all of them. Its not just me. It is everything personal. And yes, mine is waiting for the one that is just right. But you would think that being 50 and after dating hundreds of women and coming across thousands at work since you change companies every 6 months, that you've seen it all! And yes, my friends somewhat get-it, but not totally. They can't understand why I've struggled with this for so long. But until you've been hypnotized by THE ONE who has so many unbelievable qualitites and is an N - it is hard to understand.
Apr 22 - 11AM (Reply to #8)
Kelly
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Hey there Loveofmylife

I've been reading your posts and I just realized something after this last one . . . I could be very wrong about this, but I think your narc has been manipulating you because you are married, using your guilt and disappointment in your husband as leverage to keep you hooked. You're the perfect narc victim! Ruuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn!