The Exes

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#1 Aug 13 - 4PM
MandyM
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The Exes

It's been about a year for me, and for the most part, I'm feeling great. It's only instances when I give into my curiousity about what he's up to that I find myself hurt again (which should teach me not to go looking, I know, but in my own defense, my scavenger hunts are few and far between anymore!).

He had a birthday recently. I deleted him from my FB months ago, but his wall is public, so I can still see if I do a search for him. It was gratifying to me that he has over 400 FB friends, but only maybe 50, at most, posted to wish him a happy birthday. What astounded me, though was how so many of his exes from YEARS ago, like when we were in high school more than twenty years ago - most of these women are married with school-aged kids by now, and many live in other states - wished him a happy birthday and told him how they loved him and missed him and hoped his day was wonderful.

Am I the only ex who wants nothing to do with him? Who still can't believe he treated me the way he did when I'd done nothing to deserve it, even knowing all I know about narcissism? Who sees him for what he is? Who can't begin to imagine opening myself up for another trip on the roller coaster by having him back in my life?

How can they still love him, miss him, wish him nothing but cotton candy and rainbows? The floozy he took up with after me is on there, too, calling him "sweetie," but I give her a pass for it still being relatively recent - I still wanted to be in his good graces as recently as this past spring. These other women are from when we were teenagers, into our early twenties (although I didn't see the woman he was with before me anywhere on there wishing him a happy one . . . hmm). Did he maybe not do to these what he did to me?

I don't know why, but bits and pieces of this whole experience - like this one - are still so hard for me to understand and put to rest.

Aug 13 - 5PM
ruby01 (not verified)
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MandyM

I think although they have many ex's probably only a small percentage realize that he has a personality disorder. In my case I saw a couple of ex's return and disappear again so they were obviously still unaware. With my ExN the most glaring reason for his being an asshole is that he is an alcoholic. Most people are satisfied with that so they probably feel sorry for him. (puke)
Aug 13 - 4PM
jen79
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Hi Mandy M

I wanted to post today the exact same question. How on earth he has ex gf who are still loving and adoring him after 20 to 30 years. Am I the only one who suffered over this so much, that I want to get away from him forever. I dont have an answer to this, it hits me from time to time, if it might have been only me? Again the old question, is it just me? I dont get this, I am curious about the answers.
Aug 13 - 5PM (Reply to #2)
no more
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Jen79

I guesss we need to be thankful that we now have the knowledge we do about these abusers. Maybe these women are just acquaintances and not true GFs that have had to put up with the ongoing abuse that we have had to endure. My exN has 1 past GF that is still in touch with him and if she only knew the things he has said about her and the way he puts her down. But because she is still good NS when he has noone else in his life,,,,she comes thru for him,,,,not knowing yet the damage he will also cause her. It is NOT you. You are just more aware and more knowledgeable about the abuse they dish out,,,and will not accept this type of behavior anymore. HUGS

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Aug 13 - 5PM (Reply to #3)
jen79
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They are real ex gf. I know.

And they are still very good friends with him. And they are smart wonderful women, outstanding wonderful. Really. So I asked myself if they are just stronger to stay grounded and to laugh about it all. But I suspect, that they might have narcissisitic tendencies as well, since they are all from the same show buisness thing. Arent they all narcs there? Anyway, I guess they are still in denial, or he really treats them differently.
Aug 13 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
no more
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I was going

to say that I think the ex GF of my N is also in some way anN herself. I think they do treat these exes differently when it is just platonic,,,,because they need that NS,,and these women keep feeding him. And they are all in total denial.

I just got involved with the same N for the second time.
What was I thinking? Because I have put myself back to the same point where I am blaming myself again. And for what?
I want to get rid of these feelings again.

Aug 13 - 10PM (Reply to #8)
Susan32
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Platonic Marriage

That would explain why the ex-Psych prof wondered if I were a lesbian or if we could have a platonic marriage. He'd say that if we got married, we'd have a couple of kids (he knew that as a Catholic, we believe the primary purpose of marriage is procreation, that's why he was dissing same-sex marriage... back in '96), and then have a sexless marriage. Having a platonic relationship means MORE idealization, and what Ns/Ps enjoy--the longing. No need to reciprocate. It's all so high&pure. The ex-P idolized Leo Tolstoy, whose marriage suddenly became "platonic" after his "conversion" (and fathering 13 children with Sofia) He counsels everybody to be celibate-including marrieds- in "Kreutzer Sonata." He'd withhold sex from Sofia when she wanted it, but then force it on her. Even after his "vow of celibacy." Mary Baker Eddy, the founder of Christian Science, was a Narc. She bragged that her last marriage, to her devoted student Asa Gilbert Eddy (also a decade her junior), was celibate. She said it showed how high&pure their marriage was. A platonic relationship means not having to say "he did degrading things to me in bed", those sort of things. I can see why the ex-P wanted a platonic marriage. It would mean emotional&physical distance.
Aug 13 - 6PM (Reply to #7)
Susan32
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When it's platonic

As an ex of a Psych (as in psychopath) professor, for whom the involvement NEVER got romantic/sexual, and remained platonic... I agree. In the end, I was the one who dumped him. I left town without a goodbye. It's EASIER for there to be denial when sex is involved... I was with the ex-P for four years!!! Unfortunately, whenever "abstinence only" sex ed is taught, it teaches young people "if you do have sex, it might lead to abuse, but if you don't have sex" it's OK. No wonder I vented to my mother that the TWILIGHT condones&blesses emotional abuse because Edward&Bella save sex for marriage! The lack of a sexual element "purifies" the abuse. I was still brutally D&D'd (the prof had a smear campaign claiming I made sexual advances on him-when in fact all I did was declare my love to him, in a very chaste way)... and there wasn't any sex involved. If I had stayed, I'm sure the ex-P would've seen me as a treasure trove of NS because he got his live-in girlfriend pregnant... and I remained a "pure" Madonna by virtue of the fact that I hadn't had sex with him.
Aug 13 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
jen79
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no more

yes you are right, total denial. I remember when I was stll friends with him on fb, what I have seen there, now I remember again, damn fragmented memorey amnesia. He had to add them new as friends every two months, so I guess they fighted constantly, and there were alot of fan comments, like omg you are so sexy. Yes great supply, and total denial. Damn amnesia, this really sucks big time.
Aug 13 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
kaye25
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Tha Ex

I wondered the same thing. My N did his ex gf the same way she continued to contact him for 2 years before he would talk to her even becoming friends with his oldest sister. He swears they are only friends and he supposedly told her that's all they would ever be but she talks about him on fb as if he is the nicest person in the world. He stopped talking to her when we got back together after 2 years of not talking to each other. The first thing he wanted to tell me after 2 months of not talking to me is that he invited her to his house for his brothers birthday barbecue. He also has made his fb page private now as well.I have no desire to contact his sorry ass and will not. I told him to never contact me as well. I'm sure he won't at least for a couple of years. I'm free from his foolishness and feel so much better. I know it's not easy but remember they feel a lot worse than you do. kaye