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#1 Jan 14 - 10PM
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DUH

by Kathy Krajco

Some people can be amazingly obtuse. Just because NPD is classed, not just as a character disorder, but also as a personality disorder, they think narcissists are just poor, suffering victims who just can't help what nasty things they do to people.

So long as they do it to OTHER people, that is.

People like this are half the problem.

Has it never occured to them why narcissists let Mr. Hyde out only in the dark? Only behind closed doors in secret where there are no witnesses? Why do narcissists dream up ways to abuse that leave no evidence or take great pains to conceal the evidence or get somebody else blamed for the deed, preferably the victim? Just because they have a diabolical sense of humor, or what?

Why do they take such pains to carve out a false image of themselves? one that's the very antithesis of their true selves, with a halo and wings and an angel-face? Why do they behave like angels when there would be witnesses? and only attack when the coast is clear? Why do they attack only those who cannot just get or stay from them? Why do they never attack anyone who can fight back?

Because they can't control themselves? Give me a break.

Why are they angels one minute in the light of day and devils the next when there will will be no witness? If they know enough to hide their behavior, they know it's wrong, hateful, and shameful. They just do it anyway. If they can control themselves when there would be witnesses, they can control themselves, period. Duh.

That's why NPD is no defense in a court of law here in the United States. Such people are not insane. Psychopaths and narcissists go to jail, whereas the truly insane are not held responsible for what they do.

Indeed, the law classes NPD as a CHARACTER disorder for the same reasons I cited above = wickedness. There is still a substantial debate about whether NPD should be classed as a character disorder or a personality disorder.

Narcissists hurt you to make themselves feel good. Because you don't count. You are a bug. You exist to be used by them to make themselves feel good. Since stomping you makes these mental three-year-olds feel mighty, they stomp you. And boy do they then feel grand.

They can't help what they feel (or don't feel), but they CHOOSE not to grow up, and they CAN help what they do.

If you consider the facts I mentioned above, you will see that they prove two things beyond all doubt: that narcissists KNOW that what they're doing is wrong and that they can control themselves.

So, they are no better than some drug addict who murders you for five dollars to buy his next hit and feel good.

Not suffering victims. And I wish the obtuse would file down their pointy heads on this matter and see that already.

http://narc-attack.blogspot.com

Jan 15 - 6PM
Carolyn
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They wouldn't be making

They wouldn't be making emotional abuse a crime in france if it wasn't a criminal act. these people are criminals who intentionally inflict emotional harm on women andchildren in order to get something. Just like a thief who wants something- so he steals it. Emotional abusers steal peace of mind, steal heart health, steal their childrens self-esteem so they can't succeed in the world, they steal their victims will to live, and creat mental, emotional and physical health problmes in such a huge scale that the Surgeon General of the US considers their abuse a number 1 health problem. they should not be thought of victims they are victimizers.
Jan 17 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
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Heart health

Hi Carolyn, You are so right on all the stealing these narcs do -stealing their childrens self esteem so that they can't succeed in the world is put so well. I have lived my life struggling with this one and you summed it up in a sentence. About 'heart health' i listened to a talk the other day from a clinical psychologist to patients on a 9 week rehab course after a heart problem. He described how our emotions effect our heart in the long term..........too much adrenaline in our systems from stress, high blood pressure can all lead to cardiovascular issues later on. He talked about our lower brain, the primitive part that we all still have, and the fight or flight mechanism when we are in danger. It was the way he compared us to the animal kingdom that was interesting saying that the predator will hunt the weakest of the herd, that the herd normally throws out the weak one, this is why we prefer to flight as it avoids injury whereas with fight we could get injured for a couple of days. He said the body shuts down some systems to focus on getting energy to the leg muscles and the heart. We will eliminate stuff we don't need, by having vomit or diaorrhea etc etc and this takes time for our body to recover. When we think that the predator has gone away in reality they are hiding (this in our world is called stalking isn't it). So daily hassles grief, loss of personal identity are all effects on the emotions and ulitmatley can cause long term problems with the circulatory system. He said we need to go away and lick and soothe the wound in order to heal and become strong. I know i haven't put this very well but everything he said made perfect sense. All of us on here are the sheep or deer that was away from the herd and was targetted by the predator. We are now being stalked and licking the wounds to recover. It's amazing that in 2010 we are all behaving so primitively still. Most of society don't even recognise any of these behaviours. Yet we have lived it. His talked helped me to get everything into perspective.
Jan 17 - 4PM (Reply to #11)
fairy wings
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Health

I know my health has never been the same since I lived with almost seven years of violence. I used to be a competitive swimmer, vegetarian for 42 years and prided myself on my well being, my high energy, fitness level and trimmed and toned body before this experience. Even after I left, grateful that I was still alive, I had to endure another two years of harassment with the Police involved. When I think back it was dreadful.I never stopped working, however I had some really dark days behind closed doors when I first left and although I got to work and functioned no one knew how close I was to not doing so. I had terrible headaches, and was in a really dark place for ages. Eventually the headaches got better but the 'flight and fight' response is far greater than it needs to be and this is six years later! Funny things happened to my periods too. When I lived with him I kept bleeding mid month and my GP said raised cortisol levels will do this so I had to have lots of tests to make sure it was this and not fibroids; all very unpleasant. I eventually had six weeks on sick leave as I just came to a stand still at work. I couldn't explain it, it was as if I was there and yet not. I spent the time off just being. Taking care of myself, eating well, taking vitamins, walking and sleeping as and when I needed. My GP said it PTSD. I went back to work but only part-time to start with then increased it again. I'm now back to full time, but that's it. I have little energy for much else and I have to take immense care of myself. I have to stick to a routine and get to bed early on work nights otherwise it would all be too much, but I need the money and do not want to be at home on benefits. I also know his ex wife, who endured ten years has fibromyalgia (not sure that is how you spell it) and her GP said the body cannot live with heightened stress without it having an effect. I guess we are the lucky ones!
Jan 17 - 2PM (Reply to #3)
Barbara (not verified)
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Ellen - heart health

http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2005/10/unhappy-marriages-may-harm-womens.html http://abusesanctuary.blogspot.com/2006/02/heartbreak-heartache-and-cardiac-pain.html ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Jan 17 - 5PM (Reply to #10)
Ellen
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Thanks

Thanks Barbara, I remember reading the second site before and thought how good it was. it's great to find stuff that approaches the subject of physical health from an emotional point of view.
Jan 17 - 5PM (Reply to #4)
Ellen
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Thanks

Thanks Barbara, I remember reading the second site before and thought how good it was. it's great to find stuff that approaches the subject of physical health from an emotional point of view.
Jan 17 - 5PM (Reply to #5)
Amazed
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You All are Singing the Song of My Life

Thank you for this awesome post. I have been emotionally, psychologically abused, stalked, and 'STRESSED' by a pathological N,and is is scary, sad to admit,,all that was put up with, and the TREMENDOUS toll it has taken on my life, my spirit. We have to realize the serious, damaging effect that this 'ethereal stuff' has on us,,it is ethereal, because you can't quite touch it,,yet you know when you have been touched by it. I saw a healthy couple today, a young man, committed to his wife. You could see the connection, the glow the couple has. It was a beautiful thing, and to see how healthy they were,,in mind, in heart, in soul, made me glad and to realize that is what we are all after,,all along. I have NO DOUBT of the physical effects of stress. It is huge. These people are human carnivores. Strange way to put it, but sorry it is true. They want to devastate you in the most subtle, contrived, debasing manner. They ARE IN CONTROL of their behavior like this article points out. Why are they so angelic, attentive, listening, when they want to stroke the higher ups to GET WHAT THEY WANT then turn around,,sexually abuse you in the office,, and don't stop when you say STOP!!! It is because they seek, and destory their targets. I truly wish,, in the future,,there become laws to protect victims from this behavior,, and woman are knowledgeable enough about how to handle it.
Jan 18 - 1AM (Reply to #6)
Barbara (not verified)
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Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress

I wish more women that are able would sue these creeps for INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS (yes, that's a law) and make them pay for your therapy, medication, etc. ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Jan 18 - 3AM (Reply to #7)
fairy wings
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Really?

I have worked in this arena for ten years plus now and had no idea that this was teh case. Can you tell me more? I would be fascinated to delve further. Thank you.
Jan 18 - 2PM (Reply to #8)
Barbara (not verified)
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fairy wings

just google INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS or check Findlaw my survival job was paralegaling for years. its a civil action ~~~~~~~~~ The truth will set you free... but first it will piss you off - Gloria Steinem Visit My Abuse Website
Jan 18 - 5PM (Reply to #9)
fairy wings
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Thanks again

Thank you, much appreciated. Isn't it great we can share knowledge in this way!