Does a narc know he is a narc ?

That's an interesting question. I used to say that the only genuine emotion my N felt was anger & rage. I don't think he felt much jealousy . . . he felt envy--there's a difference. He coveted other's people's sensibilities and possessions. I think rage & anger are exceedingly primitive emotions. We see it in enfants when they are ignored or their needs are not immediately gratified. So rage & anger are like bodily functions in a way. There almost from the beginning of life. I think the rage & the anger is associated with the narcissistic traits. They use it as a means of controlling people. Even men will back down when another man gets enraged. It's a way to get what one wants. I think also they get a rush from the adrenalin which surges in anger. My N said he was an "anger addict." Nonsense. But, I did read that a normal person cannot remain angry for more than one to two hours. If so, then the person is somehow fueling the anger deliberately. (I mean a real fit of anger, not the pissed off & angry the women get here when finally realizing how used & abused they were.) My N could remain enraged with me for 2-3 days. The ol' silent treatment & glaring with eruptions of verbal abuse. Even one time told me that if I thought that I could act normal & this was all gonna go away, I was mistaken. (However, he fully expected me to cook, do laundry, and write checks while he was enraged & not speaking to me.) Then there is a class of psychopath who does not evidence anger. They are really cold & calculating. There was a lady here, Leah2. I think her's was one of them. 5 years of the happiest marriage, never an argument. Then suddenly he's all sad about "their (undefined) problems." And *poof* one day gone. All throughout 5 years he was so careful that each purchased separately the items which they liked for the house. And when he left, he took everything he had purchased with his own money. And, presented her with divorce papers (which she signed on the street) & he vanished--never to respond to her enquiries. One of the last times we heard from her, she told us he had responded to say he was with another woman & to leave him alone. She was so freaked out & we never heard from her again. That's a psychopath without a narcissist streak. Just a calm, emotionless, taking machine. When he's done (for whatever his reason), he walks away. None of the so-called relationship meant a damn thing, other than his convenience. I don't think there is much research on this kind of psychopath because they do not end up in jails or psychologist's offices. Highly successful predators. Leah2's N was a successful professional. I think nobody, including herself, could ever believe that this seemingly pleasant & affable man was really as cold as ice. A highly successful psychopath.