DISTRACTIONS NEEDED!

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#1 Jul 15 - 11AM
whatever2009
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DISTRACTIONS NEEDED!

Hey ladies.

Any advice on how you move on?
I mean how you try to remember the bad, instead of the good? How you distract yourself from picking up the phone?

Its so hard not to get jealous, thinking some other women will get the "good". But then I go back and forth between the good and bad. And she can have the 80% bad.

Im doing well altho I have my moments....the wkend is coming, and thats where I get vulnerable. Not to mention, he has been sending me msgs. I havent read all of them....but I read one, where he asks me not to leave him......idiot. Says Im the best thing that has ever happened to him.

Any tips would be appreciated

Jul 16 - 11AM
Jane (not verified)
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Focus on Yourself

Stick to No Contact - only through that will you have clarity of mind and thus ability to think rationally. As Barbara often said, he is like a drug... poison... and thus can easily influence our thinking if we are under his "hold". Resist the temptation to call him or to reply to his messages. Change number and email addresses if need be. Vent through your pen (or keyboard). Journalling or blogging your feelings will help you get things out of your system. The next step is to accept reality for what it is. You fell for an illusion, a mask. Trust me, the 20% "nice" is nothing but an act. The 80% "bad" is who he really is. Life is too short to waste around these life suckers. Next comes healing. Embark on a journey of self-discovery, forgive yourself, and let all past hurts go... This may take some time, but it is worth it. Focus on you: on rebuilding your sense of self, and undistructable self worth. Think about what it is that you want out of life, your dreams - and follow them. Learn to love yourself, be kind to yourself, accept yourself. Believe in yourself, in your own worth. That's how you move on. If I can do it, so can you. Recommended Reading: You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay The Emotional Healing Strategy by Gael Lindenfield Jane http://sadlynomore.blogspot.com
Jul 16 - 1AM
Barbara (not verified)
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more for you whatever2009

http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/04/16/things-do-instead-calling-him
Jul 16 - 10AM (Reply to #21)
whatever2009
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Thanks guys! I started

Thanks guys! I started journaling, I didnt realize how many of his "rules" a/o statements are so FUCKED. Until I wrote them down. I wish reading these would take away the part of me that still loves him. The part that fell for this. All of these ideas REALLY help!!! xo
Jul 16 - 11AM (Reply to #22)
quietude (not verified)
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Yay!

Good to hear of your progression whatever2009!!! Looks pretty bad on paper, huh??
Jul 16 - 10AM (Reply to #20)
whatever2009
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Thanks guys! I started

Thanks guys! I started journaling, I didnt realize how many of his "rules" a/o statements are so FUCKED. Until I wrote them down. I wish reading these would take away the part of me that still loves him. The part that fell for this. All of these ideas REALLY help!!! xo
Jul 15 - 6PM
cupcake (not verified)
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80 - 20 clarification

Guys - what's the 80%/20% people are talking about in this post? Is this 20% percent of the time he is wonderful and the rest of tje time he is just cruel and cold? Those stats make sense based on my experience. But the 20% sure was wonderful! He was really really full on and loving!
Jul 16 - 1AM (Reply to #18)
Barbara (not verified)
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and that 20%

WAS ALL FAKE A LURE the False Self! http://www.echo.me.uk/npd3.htm http://elissestuart.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/missing-pretend-guy/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 15 - 7PM (Reply to #9)
Lisa E. Scott
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Journal, Journal, Journal

Yes, 80% bad behavior and 20% decent. This of course being their standard operating procedure. In the beginning, it's all good. They lay on the charm to win us over. Once they have us it goes to 80/20 or in some cases even worse. Journaling is the best way I have found to keep myself sane when missing him or doubting myself. By journaling all the time, I can look back in moments of weakness and remind myself of how cruel he can be. As humans, we have selective memory which protects us but also works against us when trying to stay strong. Our mind brings about the good thoughts before the bad. If you journal, you can pull out your diary and read all the bad in excruciating detail. Congrats on your new job, Perutoo!!!
Jul 16 - 9PM (Reply to #17)
James (not verified)
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Ditto Lisa

Journal,Journal,Journal Sure helped me and saved my bacon a few times as well. http://james-personalitydisorder.blogspot.com/
Jul 16 - 11AM (Reply to #16)
quietude (not verified)
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percentages

This just irks me, ya know??? That they throw us the occasionally bone to keep us from RUNNING from this crazy relationship. It just makes me very angry, the manipulation, the fact that they test us to see what they can get away with. I do laugh now though, because my exN knows he can't get away with just 'ANYTHING'(not with this girl, anyway!)
Jul 16 - 1AM (Reply to #15)
cupcake (not verified)
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20% happy?

OMG I didn't even KNOW about this saying or statistic. I said to my best friend about 6 months ago "I feel happy 20% of my time with him and 80% being misreable." She said based on those stats you cannot be with him. Wow it's an actual real stat that is amazing to find out!
Jul 15 - 8PM (Reply to #10)
cupcake (not verified)
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Easy to block bad memories!

Thanks Lisa and others I have only been here for a day and already feel better. I used to delete his awful sleazy sexual messages and e-mails (I think he might be into porn possibly?) and I have kept all the nice loving beautiful ones. It is easy to block bad memories so maybe writing down the bad ones might help. Great advice!
Jul 15 - 10PM (Reply to #11)
Barbara (not verified)
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cupcake

of COURSE he's into porn and objectifying women!! read: http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2008/05/28/are-narcissists-warped-sexually "The problem is that Narcissists don't know the true meaning of "others" people are mere objects to them. NARCISSISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO never learned to make it on their own. Except for their fantasies of perfection, envy of others who have what they lack, and unacknowledged fears of humiliation, they are empty on the inside. They have no real Self to bring to a relationship with another person, but they desperately need someone else to join them in their emptiness and help them maintain emotional equilibrium. The ideal candidate is someone willing to become an extension of the Narcissist's fragile ego, to serve as an object of admiration, contempt, or often enough both. The sign over their door ought to read: Abandon Self All Ye Who Enter Here." - WHY IS IT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU? - Hotchkiss (pg. 121) Take all those NICE messages (they are not only just lures they are fake!!!) - copy them to a disc and then PUT IT SOMEWHERE THAT IS PROBLEMATIC FOR YOU TO RE-READ THEM ALL THE TIME. Never delete anything like that in case he starts to harass you or stalk you and you have to prove to police he was "coming on" to you - but get them OFF your hard drive. NO CONTACT!! My story: http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/03/16/barbaras-story ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 16 - 1AM (Reply to #12)
cupcake (not verified)
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For Barbara reply to legal!

Woah! I was going to say "are you being serious" but I guess that is a silly question for me to ask! Is it important to protect yourself/privacy legally this way from N's ie keep the nice messages on a disk in case I need evidence? Why would he harrass and stalk me after cutting me out of his life when I confronted him about his girlfriend? Would he really do that? I guess it is early days so for me I would be thrilled if he came back and started calling and messaging again but from all your stories and advice it seems no contact is what you need to do. I read your story Barbara I am still in total shock. I think what made me really sad was the stepping over you when you were crawling to the bathroom. I just don't understand. People help strangers on the street that merely trip and you were sick and that is how your husband treated you. That is really really mind blowing.
Jul 16 - 1AM (Reply to #13)
Barbara (not verified)
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do they stalk their exes?

wait until you come across some other stories here... these are truly the face of EVIL, cupcake - make NO mistake. Is it important to protect yourself/privacy legally this way from N's ie keep the nice messages on a disk in case I need evidence? YES!!! And reading them over & over and having them on your computer is a form of contact. NO CONTACT!!! Why would he harass and stalk me after cutting me out of his life when I confronted him about his girlfriend? Would he really do that? Hell YES!! He's PATHOLOGICAL, cupcake. SICK. NOT HUMAN. Not just a jerk but something much much worse. from our members: http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/03/20/my-narcissist-landed-me-er-last-night#comment-680 http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2009/04/04/narcissists-tools stalk? yes - and then say YOU are the stalker? YES YES and YES. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths
Jul 16 - 1AM (Reply to #14)
cupcake (not verified)
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do they stalk their exes reply

Wow I just read those links...I had no idea it could be this scary. I guess from the stuff here a "normal" healthy person wouldn't come back and stalk you after cutting you off but a N and his disordered brain would! And then saying I am the stalker? I can see it's already happened to some of you guys...that is twisted. I like what you said about reading messages/e-mails etc is still a form of contact. I guess it does tie me to him in a big way and makes me still love him and want him. To be honest I am in a stage where I would so love to hear from him and have him want me enough to stalk me...I would give anything to hear anything from him. He' just gone! Someone on here said that you never get closure from them you have to close it for yourself. Tomorrow is a new day!!!
Jul 15 - 4PM
Scoop
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I know what you mean if i

I know what you mean if i have another weekend like last one i will put my head in the oven !Its so hard as we share friends but i have been back to my drumming class and they are all off to Liverpool in in a couple of weeks so im planning to get back up to scratch with the drumming this weekend and try not to think of the party going on which i cant go to because HE will be there . oh yeah i got a job today , yesss ! I was so worryed about the interview as i have been having panic attacks but the woman was so friendly we hit it off straight away . I seem to be enjoying womans company much more these days for some reason , could it be i wouldnt trust another man as far as i could kick him . And as for getting your nails done being just a treat for the ladys im not sure about that , i recon our James would benifit from a quick buff and colour lol. thank you god for this site 11 bleeding long days no contact. peru x
Jul 15 - 7PM (Reply to #7)
better off
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Hang on peru. :-) I

Hang on peru. :-) I remember posting here when I could only measure no contact in days. And feeling like I would die, just die without him. I thought I would drown in tears. Now it's been months. I used to know exactly how many weeks, but I don't anymore, and when I realized I'd have to calculate it, I thought, hell with it, I'm not going to think about it long enough to figure it out. I still miss him sometimes, but I know who I miss isn't real. It feels more like missing a dream now. It's so hard right now, but you can do it.
Jul 15 - 4PM
devoured_soul (not verified)
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Type out, double spacing in

Type out, double spacing in between, every bad thing he did. Cut them into strips and put them in your pocket and when you think of a good time (which will fade, trust me) or you think you miss him (nothing to miss, trust me) or you think you want to contact him (NO CONTACT!!) then pull one of the strips out and read it. Transfer it to another pocket and if you have to, start the process over again. If you forgot something, jot it down and add it to strips. Do this daily. As far as him having another gf, this can be confusing at first. You think she must be a better woman than you, she must be more understanding and tolerant, blah, blah, blah. This is not the case. She is another victim ONLY and not better than you in ANY WAY. In fact, you may someday hear from her after she gets his 80%. (There has to be 20% cuz they wouldn't get anywhere with anyone with 100% bad, right?) His GOOD is a roping in tactic. That's it. It's not because he's good. His good is evil. A BIG FAT LIE. I also joined a gym and I try to stay busy. I call everyone I know and invite myself to whatever they are doing!! They don't care!! I suddenly have the time (since I dont have to cater to HIS sorry ass) to do things I neglected like walk the dog and clean the house and read and spend time with my daughters!!! I also will be starting a diet (not a weight loss) that was recommended to me by an acupunturist/life coach I had a session with. He says it will be the single most important thing I can do for myself to feel better. The acupuncture was cool, by the way. Yeah and the "dont leave me" crap is just that. Crap. OF COURSE he doesn't want you to leave him!!! DUH!!! You're a source of supply! Screw him, he wants the easy way out. It's easier to lure you back than to start with fresh prey. I'm sure you WERE the best thing that ever happened to him. GIVE YOUR BEST TO SOMEONE THAT DESERVES IT, NOT THIS FREAK-SHOW, NARCISSITIC FUCK UP.
Jul 15 - 1PM
Carolyn
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One of the things that came

One of the things that came my way by accident but really helped was I met a Mary Kay cosmetics lady bought the stuff, and then started selling it. I sold for 15 years and found it took up spare time, the sales meetings are very professional and all about empowerment, I met a lot of great people, and made money. I had a regular job so I did this on the weekends. You control it so it doesn't put too much stress on you, it makes good money the commission was 50%, and it keeps you on track for the positive.
Jul 15 - 1PM
Carolyn
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I am going through this now

I am going through this now with a business partner. He claims I keep calling him.I have never made one call to him. I have ended a business, as a painting contractor, with a talented guy who is a mind gamer. I am very experienced with this type of narcissist and when I realized our up-scale, women clients were not having us back or recommending us I saw the hand writting on the wall. Even though I have not been around narcissits for a long time I had the whole range of insomnia, fear, anxiety, and a draw towards continuing contact. He is desperate to continue being friends. No contact! It is an excercise. If you know the weekends are tough go to alanon meetings. One addiction is like another. Find a weekend walking group, take a tai-chi class, plan an activity every day until the no contact takes hold. I found laughing worked so have some funny movies laughter changes the body chemistry of moping for a monster. If you learn yoga or tai-chi you can practice when you get the urge to contact Mr. Crazy.
Jul 15 - 12PM
GhostBuster
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Read

One thing that calmed me down, oddly enough, was immersing myself in reading about narcissism (and sociopathy). It's kind of counterintuitive. You'd think spending so much time reading about HIM would have the opposite affect, but it helped me tremendously. And it helped me think of him as bad, not good.
Jul 15 - 3PM (Reply to #2)
Barbara (not verified)
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distractions

1. writing a list of his good vs. his bad traits - post it where you can see it. 2. journaling (2 places to do it online: http://www.mytherapyjournal.com/ or http://www.privatejournals.com/ ) 3. shopping (or do it online where you can look and make wishlists) 4. get your nails professionally done (girls only) 5. rearrange the furniture (less reminders) 6. buy new sheets & curtains and put them up 7. bubble bath 8. take a walk/ walk your dog somewhere you haven't gone before 9. play music and dance ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Articles & information for abuse victims - Updated Daily Online Coaching for Victims of Narcissists/ Psychopaths