Did anyone else's narc replace her with another primary supply who WASN'T another woman?

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#1 Jul 1 - 12PM
helldweller
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Did anyone else's narc replace her with another primary supply who WASN'T another woman?

So, as many of you know, my n replaced me with a foster child, not another woman, but now he has stopped communicating with me. For two years, he replaced me with the child, but kept me around for secondary supply. Since he has thrown me away now, who is he going to? Another secondary supply? I know I'm sick, but I'm wondering if it's another woman, how will he treat her? Secondarily? Like he did me? Or will she be first supply and the child second?

Jul 3 - 9PM
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sorry

Only meant to send it once. Using my blackberry and the spam thing pops up intermittently.
Jul 3 - 9PM
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supply

He chose to be w/ his male friends rather than spend time w/ me. If he had gone to gay bars several times, does that mean he is gay? Don't know now, cause everything he said was a lie.
Jul 3 - 9PM (Reply to #35)
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yes

mine started with male friends...and then an exclusive memebers only club. That gave him great supply. "I'm a memember of the S*** Club. I can get you in as my guest." He & his new guy friend(who I now think is an N too)started hanging at swinger clubs, strip joints, etc.. Current memebers at the S*** Club are not happy with the new crowd hanging aroung these two members...as they have brought in known call girls. So high class. The sick part is he likes to parade my daughter around there to show his "family" side. He has told people I was the delusional one that divorced poor him & took his house and made him pay child support. He is $100K in debt from hookers, possible drugs & alcohol. What "good father" does that??
Jul 3 - 9PM
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supply

He chose to be w/ his male friends rather than spend time w/ me. If he had gone to gay bars several times, does that mean he is gay? Don't know now, cause everything he said was a lie.
Jul 3 - 9PM
enoughalready
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supply

He chose to be w/ his male friends rather than spend time w/ me. If he had gone to gay bars several times, does that mean he is gay? Don't know now, cause everything he said was a lie.
Jul 3 - 9PM (Reply to #30)
NancyM
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enoughalready

He could be swinging more towards the borderline end of the spectrum, but it makes little difference, the lies and manipulation are all the same.

Nevergoback

Jul 3 - 9PM (Reply to #31)
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NancyM

Perhaps. He'd always buy his male friends a gift, like a shirt or baseball cap. But never did he buy such thoughtful gifts for me. It's hard to discern now what the truth really was. Did he really go to gay bars? Was he really w/ his "male" friends. Or was it something to say to keep me guessing? You're so right-all lies and manipulation.
Jul 3 - 9PM (Reply to #32)
Susan32
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Male friends

My friends thought my ex-P was gay. He'd dress in a manly way... he wasn't a flamboyant Oscar Wilde type. He had effeminate mannerisms and speech. He had a rather obvious lisp. He'd walk with his hips, instead of his shoulders. My friends sensed his gaydar;I was in denial. He treated male students BETTER than females. He respected their ideas, engaged intellectually with them. He'd speak highly of his father--but liked mocking his maternal grandmother and spoke of "driving her crazy" as a child. He was downright cold when his aunt came down with cancer. He was intellectual with his male students, condescending with his female students. He preferred younger male students to his older male colleagues. I remember him treating a fellow male professor who was a little older than him with outright rudeness. If he had been OPEN and HONEST about being gay or bisexual, I would've accepted him like my gay friends. But no. He was a homophobe (yet he admired Wittgenstein, who was openly gay for his time and had boyfriends) I have gay friends... and they're HONEST about it. Thank goodness.
Jul 3 - 6AM
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also...

after D&D when i was back in Europe (my ex N lives in Oklahoma)ex N told me first he was maybe gay...then he told me he wasn't(he was just trying me to get the hell away from me)then that he was going to be a Big Brother(the big brother project in Tulsa is a project that alloud less privileged children to spend a weekend with a men if you are a boy or witha woman if you are a girl and learn stuff or just camping,sports etc...)Then he told me he was talking to awoman on the net that was just like me only she wasn't crazy as i am....Then he told me he was having cyber sex...when i sadi good for you what kind of women are they?he said well did i said women?i said people....and we gonna meet halfway when they are ready....and ALL of this in 2weeks time...and he works full time as a maintenance guy also stand by on wekends...talking about delusional and a f*****g liar....The reality is He is NUTS.....

Aceonelady

Jul 3 - 5AM
awayfromhim
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Supply

Sheesh, what ISN'T a form of supply for an N. Mine was never satisfied with what he had. Got a new bike, one year later needed a newer, better bike. Got a motorcycle, one year later had a second motorcycle. Got a second car, two years later needed a third car. A friend stopped idolizing him or had the nerve to provide some constructive criticism? He got another friend. At one point I actually felt sorry for the bastard. To live one's life in a constant state of dissatisfaction must suck. The N, at least the one I had, is never happy. Sure, they pretend to be when they are in the spotlight they so adore but it is impossible to be happy when you are consistently looking for something or someone better than what you've got. Gratitude does not exist. Well, hehe, I no longer feel sorry for him. I only feel sorry for the cars he sits his repulsive ass in. :-) To answer your questions, yes, he has most likely found other supply. Is it another woman? Who knows. And, yes, he will treat her as he treated you. He was a narcissist before you met him so, of course, he will treat another woman as he did you. He's hard wired that way.
Jul 2 - 7PM
NoNarcingZone
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Secondary Supply

Yep. Waiting in the wings was his ever faithful workout buddy...'GI Joe'. Reminiscent of a movie that has aired 3x in the past 2 weeks... Ranch owner to Ennis & Jack: "You boys sure found a way to make the time pass up there. Twist, you guys wasn't gettin' paid to leave the dogs babysittin' the sheep while you stem the rose." -- Brokeback Mountain (2005)

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Jul 2 - 5PM
Susan32
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Young men

My ex-P had a circle of male disciples for supply... and apparently he talked philosophy with them (because his mentors were Cora Diamond and the late Richard Rorty, which apparently made him full of awesome), but not with me, because I was a girl. A lot of my friends hinted that my ex-P might be gay. He seemed to be more at ease with them than he was with me (well, he said he was scared of me) One said "He prefers young men." Another said "He's attracted to you because you look like a boy." Another joked about him "honky-tonkying" with a fellow male professor. Once his circle of male disciples graduated...well, there will always be young men, and thus supply. What's sad is that one of his former male disciples hasn't gone on to be a philosopher. He's in the music business, lives in the Pacific Northwest, and has changed his name. But at least he's doing what he loves,because he always liked music.
Jul 2 - 4PM
happydaysahead
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Uhm......well.........

He replaced me alright, but I would hardly call her a woman !! She is a psycho stalker who made my life miserable and did so much stuff behind my back it was sickening. She is an admitted coke user and a convicted felon who lost custody of her own children and has lived quite a sexually promiscuous past. Sounds like a real winner, huh ?? But I guess that's what he is into for now. But I would hardly classify her as a woman, even though to look at her she is, but to know her, well, she is just trash !! Ok, done bitching for the day !! :)
Jul 2 - 1PM
ClusterF
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Porn, crack, cybersex

Although I found out just in time that these were his secondary, tertiary and (whatever the fourth one is) all along...while working on his next victim. So lovely.
Jul 1 - 9PM
neveragain5
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Yes!

After he and his ex-girlfriend broke-up, he went to live with a male friend. They have been living together for a year now. When we would talk on the phone, he always needed to "Go be with his friend". It was always "His friend this and his friend that", talked about him all the time. I jokingly called his friend his husband one time and he got really mad. It was very strange and was one of the red flags that I saw immediately.
Jul 1 - 3PM
helldweller
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supply

My counselor gasped when she heard about the foster child and said, "Oh my God. What will happen when the child stops thanking the N for saving his life and starts realizing the real selfishness behind the situation?" About two months ago, it was the last time I babysat. My N was at a "meeting" after a "seminar" and came to pick up the child afterwards, around 8pm. He was drunk and, after walking in the door, he went over to the foster child and slapped him in the head, saying, "Were you good?" The child, five years old, kicked the N in the stomach, screaming, "Leave me alone!" I said to the N, "That's going to be a butcher knife in your neck in about five years." He laughed.
Jul 1 - 3PM
Lisa E. Scott
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Porn

Mine replaced me with porn years before our divorce. Sorry, I can't compete with porn.
Jul 2 - 4PM (Reply to #18)
rainbow1
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porn

I never saw him watch porn or caught anything like that. However, I know that before we dated he used to watch porn all of the time. I saw some emails from "singles.com" and his ads on there but he said that this was from years ago and he cant get off of their contact list. Also, I know that he has a dvd player in his truck and he used to have one in his car in high school. He used to tell me that he would watch porn in his car in traffic on the way to work! How gross is that!? He told me that it wasnt a big deal because his windows are tinted and he had an hour commute! He said "what else am I supposed to do?" I DONT KNOW! WATCH A MOVIE! YOU DAMN FREAK!

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Jul 2 - 4PM (Reply to #19)
better off
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Watching the ROAD would be good....

That's DISGUSTING!! Well, I highly doubt he STOPPED watching porn when he started dating you. That's some pretty addictive behavior, watching it while DRIVING. "What else am I supposed to do??" Gross, gross, gross!!! His emails and ads were from "years ago?" He's 21!! Have you been checked for STD's?
Jul 2 - 5PM (Reply to #20)
rainbow1
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Yes I have been checked but

Yes I have been checked but probably should be again. That was actually one of the very first questions that he asked me when we met. Yes, I know that is nasty nasty nasty!!!!!! You should have read the emails and ads! I literally could not look at him for awhile. It was so gross! And he thought that watching porn while driving was a totally normal thing! He was probably one of those guys who drives around naked jacking off to female drivers!!! (it happens! I work for a law firm and see this type of stuff everyday!)

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Jul 1 - 5PM (Reply to #16)
AnotherPath
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I too was replaced by porn

I too was replaced by porn and cybersex for the last 6 years. Sick pervert, he can go and rot with this pixel relationships.

Ending the dance

Jul 1 - 5PM (Reply to #17)
Steph
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pixel relationships!

that's hilarious!
Jul 1 - 3PM (Reply to #11)
broken23
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"i cant compete with porn"

"i cant compete with porn" lol. where did we find such winners!
Jul 1 - 7PM (Reply to #15)
NancyM
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Porn

And the rest. I did not even know that withholding sex was so common until finding this site. Mine covered his tracks pretty well but inevitably things popped up so to speak. He worked from home (when he wasn't on the road) and his computer screen would change if I walked in the office. One day when he was stomping off for the evening, I spat at him "so go toss over your computer see if I care" He looked at me like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I said "yeah, some of us are not as stupid as we look"

Nevergoback

Jul 1 - 3PM (Reply to #13)
helldweller
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Competing with porn

Don't get it. Just don't get it. I know that, like you guys, I would do anything and everything he asked. I was beautiful (his own words), sexy( his own words), engaging, witty, adoring, blah blah blah. And three dimensional. What gives? I wasn't competing with porn as far as I know. He would not even do phone sex.
Jul 2 - 4PM (Reply to #14)
better off
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Ha!

You better believe he is into that... There's another reason he would never want you ACTUALLY living in his house. I would bet my house that freak is into porn. Now that he has a pet child I wouldn't even be surprised if it's child porn as well.
Jul 1 - 3PM (Reply to #12)
Lisa E. Scott
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Broken23

I know, right?! Unbelievable. xo
Jul 1 - 2PM
almostlydia
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mine always had others lined

mine always had others lined up during the week but none seemed to ever be a replacement but more like an a hour and a half booty call (plus, of course all the drama that went along with it). Until about 2 or 3 yrs ago when he left for longer periods of time it was because he had replaced me with a man 20 years younger. I believe he travels mostly in that circle now. Being a black, muscle man, i believe he has found an endless supply of adoration and easy sex there. (i am not black, btw, or gay as he likes to project.) I read that children are their biggest and easiest victims. Mine did have a slew of teenage and very young men (clients) that he spent way too much time with outside work. They were an endless supply of adoration. My son thought he was 'all that' too until i finally made it clear to him that the only reason he continued to text and contact him was to 'hurt' me. I believe once he could not get to my son, and get him to work for him during the summer, he finally stopped trying. That and the fact that he knew I would ruin him very publicly, no holding back, if he continued to try to use my son. Sorry, didn't mean to get off on my own story. I would guess the foster child is just an easy and constant source until he can find another. And I agree, I don't know how you manage living that close to him. Having him right there would be worse than the barrage of text and calls I used to get everyday, and that was bad enough. Much strength to you.

almostlydia

Jul 1 - 1PM
MovinOnUp
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Helldweller

If I recall, his son's pretty young so he'll be a good source of supply for awhile. As far as the next woman goes, he won't treat her any better than he did you. I think it's Agnes that had a great story about how long her ex's new woman lasted. I really feel for you, Helldweller. It must be so difficult to get over the hump when the jerk lives so close. Please be good to yourself! You deserve to live on the first floor, Helldweller.
Jul 1 - 1PM (Reply to #2)
helldweller
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MovinOnUp

Thank you so much for replying. Yes, that's been the worst thing. I totally get loving our children, as I have my little girls, but who replaces their partner with them? Fathers and mothers struggle to keep their partners and spouses as important as the children, but to throw one's partner away when the child comes-especially years after--it's so awful. Thank you.