Can they tell Lies from the truth?

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Jun 24 - 9AM (Reply to #12)
Lisa E. Scott
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No banning advice anymore

I don't know why Kaleah LaRoche was banned, Anotherpath, but going forward, no one will be prohibited from posting links or articles to advice they find helpful. I don't see the point in this. Each of us is unique in our spiritual journey and certain things will resonate with some that don't resonate with others. That's ok. No one should dictate what is helpful advice to another person. Please don't hesitate to post links or articles to advice you find helpful. The important thing is that we respect each other's opinions and do not force ideas down anyone's throat. I hope this makes sense. Any questions, just let me know. Thanks for bringing to my attention!
Jun 24 - 11AM (Reply to #13)
GIJ
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I agree and appreciate this approach Lisa

Thanks Lisa I remember posting about the relief I felt while listening to a cd I found on line at another website. It actually was a turning point for me at that time. Another member followed up by asking if I would post the information and link given my results, so I did. I also qualified the information stating that it may be "new agey" to some and to simply check it out for themselves. Later that day I was told that site was to banned here and my link to the website was removed. I did apologize not realizing I was breaking a rule. I do feel, however, that it is our right and responsibility to seek out what works for us. And it is also your right to decide what you do and don't want here. Kind of like "take what you like and leave the rest." The site was Kaleah's and I found her articles to be equally as helpful as those here. I have no problem with her charging a minimal fee to join her group, although I have not joined. She is on the same mission and simply brings her own experience to the table, as do you and the rest of us. I also have read SV and watched "I, Pychopath". Chilling yet I feel the need to learn as much as I can. So, I use caution. Sandra Brown's books and CD's have also been life changing. Her "Maintaining Mindfulness" book and exercises are working very well for me as is her other CD. I encourage members to check those out. I can't emphasize enough how important this resource (AAH) is to many as well, and I appreciate your dedication to educating women on these issues.
Jun 24 - 11AM (Reply to #14)
Steph
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I found Kaleah's website

I found Kaleah's website very helpful as well. I downloaded her book and have a few of her CD's. Her approach to healing from narcissistic abuse is that of a spiritual journey, which really resonated with me. She talks alot about taking the focus off of the abuser and directing our energy back to ourselves. Not in a blaming way. More that as long as we are fixated on them, we are still feeding them our energy on a spiritual level. I am happy we can post some of her stuff to for others that may find it useful:) Thanks, Lisa.
Jun 24 - 5AM (Reply to #10)
TNR1
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I am glad...

I found Sam V's articles to be extremely helpful in trying to understand Ns in general.
Jun 23 - 6PM (Reply to #5)
TexN (not verified)
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http://www.enpsychopedia.org/

http://www.enpsychopedia.org/index.php/Sam_Vaknin
Jun 23 - 6PM (Reply to #6)
almostlydia
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TexN

I'm glad you posted this. I've been aware of Sam Vaknin for several years. Recently i was sent the link to the you tube for 'I, Psychopath' and watched all 5 parts. It was Sam Vaknin wearing his psychopathy like a badge of honor. When my ex husband couldn't understand how anyone had ever controlled or manipulated me for so long, I ask him to watch the video. In the end of the series the producer was freaking out because despite being well aware of what he was dealing with, he was being slowly victimized. It was an excellent documentary.

almostlydia

Jun 23 - 6PM (Reply to #7)
almostlydia
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Also

I watched my N and how he behaved for years with the eyes of a hawk. I believe they interpret the world from their own skewed reality and do not see it any other way. Mine would tell a lie over and over again that he eventually blocked out the truth and believed only his version. Mine could look you right in the eyes, and lie to your face without flinching. He believed his reality and didn't need anything else.

almostlydia

Jun 23 - 8AM
aceonelady
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no sense of time

Yes mine too...no sense of time,and also forgot stuff and i really could see he wasn't acting....Things he should remember he forgets and little details that of stuff i did he still remembers.....He always tells me i have an elephant memory....i think they really do have some kind of brain damage....they are really wired in a different manner....

Aceonelady

Jun 23 - 10AM (Reply to #2)
Goldie
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Probably varies

Some may know and some may not depending on what other disorders they have going on. My x was also an addict and a sociopath so I believe that sometimes he believed his own lies, sometimes he forgot because he was so high, and sometimes he knew but he wasn't going to budge cause he did not want to deal with my "emotional baggage" over what he had done to me. Case in point: he was stingy with what he bought me, always found the cheapest thing, yet I always bought him the nicest I could aford. So one day I was asking him if he had EVER bought anything nice for any girl and he said no not really. He said I was never engaged so I never bought a ring or anything like that. Shortly thereafter, he asked me to run his credit report and come to find out there was a ring from a jewlery store on his credit report from several years ago. I think he really did block it out cuz he had to then tell me that he was engaged to the girl and I think he forgot cuz he did not give a shit. By the way she paid for most of the ring and he returned it, she told me this. Another time he kept denying he cheated on me and said, bebe I would NEVER cheat on you, I'm quite certain that he knew he cheated on me, although the np I think feels entitled to do so, cuz they appear to lack moral fiber. So I would have to say it depends on what the lie is and what their disorders are. They probably believe the crap about how great they are and how everything is our fault, that I have no doubt. I think it is difficult to comprehend as ace just said, they are wired differently and cuz they lack empathy even if they do know they don't care so it may appear as though they don't remember when in fact it is simply irrelevant to them, no guilt no remorse. God bless us in our journey to sort this all out. Goldie